Guild Wars 2

Am new to guild wars 2 i just bought it for 2 days ago and i loved to play as rogue in other games so i believe its called thief here, i want to know is it good idé to start thief or is it gona be nerfed badly soon?

cuz i saw some forums about other classes complaining that thiefs are op and need to be nerfed and such….

Dado

actually it was nerfed for 15+ patches in a row, and the devs and whiners are still NOT happy :/

so what u saying is it is possible that it will get more nerfed in the upcoming patches :S

It’s highly possible as the QQ still goes on no matter what nerf they impose upon us.

This leaves now the only option to add another trap that can be looted upon killing ambient creatures with a 100% drop rate which will automatically expunge thieves from WvW and back to Lion’s Arch. Theives cannot enter WvW for another 24 hours.

well with this info i have to reconsider my choice :/ ohh well this sux badly

Thieves have been getting nerfed since launch, but don’t let that discourage you.

From a PvP perspective, thieves have recieved a few minor buffs/fixes that really improved QoL over the months, and the last PvP patch that fixed FS basically fixed most of the problems with the S/D set, and gave thieves a viable no-stealth alternative for thief style play.

The dev’s have also mentioned that they want thieves to be more mobile, and to adjust their damage calculations so they can spec more defensively without losing too much damage. We’re supposed to be the extremely slippery kings of burst, and the Dev’s claim they want to make changes in that direction.

They’re still playable in tPvP, though you’d probably have an easier time with a few other classes.

I have no PvE/WvW analysis because I’m strictly PvP.

But so far all the “devs” have done is make thief burst weaker and now nonexistent.

I would recommend you try thief among the different classes you test. We are one of the most mobile classes (with or without stealth), can do pretty good damage, and have quite a few tricks up their sleeves with ports, evades, blinds, and, of course, stealth. If you enjoyed rogue in other classes you will still like thief here. The stealth mechanic is even more powerful than in other games, and a lot of builds can fight in near-permastealth, or on-demand stealth at the least.

That being said, I think as devs implement more changes that make the class have that slipperiness (in terms of movement) and a bit more defense (in terms of toughness), we will see a reduction (nerf) in the stealth mechanic. It is a little OP right now, especially some builds that continually stack 8s of stealth whenever they want. You will see a lot gnashing of teeth on this forum during this process, but good thief players use stealth more a surgeon uses a scalpel (at the right time, and with precision) whereas bad thieves rely on using stealth like a brute uses a bludgeon (indiscriminately and with reckless abandon).

Meridian.8730:

But so far all the “devs” have done is make thief burst weaker and now nonexistent.

True about weakening the burst, but that isn’t necessarily the whole story. Perhaps the Dev’s are lowering damage across the board, and they’re just starting with the high burst classes first. There have been talks about fights going on much too quickly, and the introduction of Boon stealing for thieves and Boon hate for warriors was an attempt to give those classes a way to deal with bunkers that didn’t rely on a raw damage increase (which would make those classes hit amazingly hard on non bunkers)

Thieves still have burst, it’s just not as good as it once was.

Maduxi.6593:

so what u saying is it is possible that it will get more nerfed in the upcoming patches :S

It took a massive nerf in WvW just yesterday.
The people claiming Thieves are OP don’t have any idea what they’re talking about. They just don’t like Thieves because they can flee fights and harass people with Stealth.

Whether or not you should play one depends on personal preference.
I find it fun because of the mobility, the high skill cap and it’s fun to trick and manipulate people with Stealth/Shadowsteps.
Thieves though are extremely soft when actually hit, and despite both this and their nature as a burst class they do not generally have great damage.
Initiative is also insanely restrictive despite its intended purpose. Not only will you use skills less frequently than any other class, but you also get little if any use out of weapon swapping.
It’s not like the damage is as bad as an Engineer/Necromancer/Guardian, but the Thief has neither the staying power nor the versatility of such classes.

Maduxi.6593:

Am new to guild wars 2 i just bought it for 2 days ago and i loved to play as rogue in other games so i believe its called thief here, i want to know is it good idé to start thief or is it gona be nerfed badly soon?

cuz i saw some forums about other classes complaining that thiefs are op and need to be nerfed and such….

Dado

Honestly, this forum in a toxic wasteland. I have played thief since the whole time the game has been out. I have played through the buffs and the nerfs and I expect to play through the next rounds of them. The class is different from all the other classes so if you find it fun stick with it. I’m not sure how your personality is, if your a “sky is falling” “they nerfed my build, the class is dead” type (which is most of whom post on the forums) or if anet nerfs your build find a new one or make yours work type a person. If your a sky is falling type, the thief is not for you! Due to the stealth mechanic the thief will be the most looked at class as far and core changes, mainly due to the massive QQ on these forums (justified or not)

Just be warned it doesn’t matter what class you pick, you will get nerfed and you will get buffs. It the way it is.

thief is still one of the easiest classes to deal damage with, along with warrior. these are the most popular classes in game. i don’t see their popularity diminishing at all, for good reason a 6.7k backstab is no joke and no other class(except warrior) can put out that much damage at once as far as i can tell.

Please, for the love of Grenth, do not pay any attention to any of the posts that say that the Thief is overpowered, heading for nerfsville, or on the other end of the spectrum, weak, underpowered, useless, being destroyed in every patch.

None of that is true, and the only way to really show you this is to suggest that you roll a Thief and try it out for yourself. If you like the sneaky rogue archetype then you’ll love the Thief, and despite what everyone will tell you, they’re neither OP nor severely UP. They could use some buffs in some areas, but other than that, it’s a very enjoyable class that can still be played very successfully.

A suggestion – As soon as you finish your starting quest, go to the Heart of the Mists lobby area. There you will instantly be made level 80 and have access to all of your skills. You can then try out a max level character on the golems there to see which one you like. You can try out all of the professions that way, if you want, and really be able to see for yourself which one you like best.

Also, are you interested in PvE/Dungeons, WvW, or PvP? This is important to know before you choose, because some character professions excel in one area, and are underpowered in another For example, Warriors are very strong in PvE/Dungeons and underpowered in PvP (so I’ve been told – I don’t PvP).

However to answer your specific question about Thieves and nerfs, the class has received many nerfs in the past and will probably see more in the future. Pretty much all classes can say this to some extent.

i think i will stick as thief, i tried other melee classes but none was as fun as thief, so thank you everyone for the help.