should it or not? if yes should it be more like dagger training (pure flat damage) or something more mechanic and awesome? just a thought i had what do you guys think?
i think that it would be too powerfull since that would its 4th way to get quickness by himself but the direction is good. i thought that some kind of proc or improve to its stealth attack would be really good
Something to provide defensive utility would be nice – such as chance to gain aegis or short-duration protection or something of that sort when you crit.
Sword is less evasive in combat than daggers or other weapon sets (especially pistol whip). We already deliver weakness, something short for defense would be nice as a complement. On-crit or under special circumstances (stealth/poisoned…)
Just make skills 3 and 4 (S/D) usefull and i’ll be happy.
S3 is actually pretty awesome currently. Just got to get used to it’s wacky behavior. Dagger 4? It’s a bouncing snare.. still serves it’s purpose. S/D is one of the most complete thief builds for WvW at least, each ability is useful.
Delete this useless trait, nobody is going to use it when it has a 7% critical chance trait right next to it, and no other trait in the game helps “one attack.”
Add: Master Fencer
Sword and Spear critical chance is increased by 10%.
Gain 5 seconds of Might on a Critical Hit. (this adds more passive damage, which the thief needs, we have plenty of burst damage, but compared to other classes our passive damage stinks.)
Delete this useless trait, nobody is going to use it when it has a 7% critical chance trait right next to it, and no other trait in the game helps “one attack.”
Add: Swashbuckler
Sword and Spear damage is increased by 10%.
Delete this useless trait, nobody is going to use it when it has a 7% critical chance trait right next to it, and no other trait in the game helps “one attack.”
5% crit on dual skills trait and 7% crit from behind traits are not mutually exclusive (I’ve seen a few builds pick both) and serve different purposes.
5% crit on dual skills helps builds that use #3 as their main source of damage (Death Blossom, Unload some Pistol Whip builds) while 7% crit chance from behind/side is not always in effect especially for builds that don’t rely on mostly stealth attacks (So opponents are often facing them)
They are also in different areas, 7% crit from behind is an Adept trait while the 5% crit of dual skills is Master thus they do not compete for a slot (Especially with how many Critical Strike line traits seem to be situational)
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It’d be nice to have a trait that helps Sword damage out a bit, though I can’t think off-hand what would be an adequet solution (Quickness proc would be great due to how much damage comes from auto-attacks, but as there’s already a Quickness proc trait…)
“Pull the trigger, move out ahead,
There’s two kinds of people… The quick and the dead”
Delete this useless trait, nobody is going to use it when it has a 7% critical chance trait right next to it, and no other trait in the game helps “one attack.”
5% crit on dual skills trait and 7% crit from behind traits are not mutually exclusive (I’ve seen a few builds pick both) and serve different purposes.
5% crit on dual skills helps builds that use #3 as their main source of damage (Death Blossom, Unload some Pistol Whip builds) while 7% crit chance from behind/side is not always in effect especially for builds that don’t rely on mostly stealth attacks (So opponents are often facing them)
They are also in different areas, 7% crit from behind is an Adept trait while the 5% crit of dual skills is Master thus they do not compete for a slot (Especially with how many Critical Strike line traits seem to be situational)
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It’d be nice to have a trait that helps Sword damage out a bit, though I can’t think off-hand what would be an adequet solution (Quickness proc would be great due to how much damage comes from auto-attacks, but as there’s already a Quickness proc trait…)
Um… Are you joking? Death Blossom is a condition damage attack, having it do 5% more damage and 5% more critical chance doesn’t matter.
The only attacks that matter for power in dual skills are Flanking Strike and Pistol Whip, which both would benefit from the sword Traits.
Unload? Nobody uses P/P, it needs atleast a 30% base damage increase before anyone uses it.
Um… Are you joking? Death Blossom is a condition damage attack, having it do 5% more damage and 5% more critical chance doesn’t matter.
5% more damage is crap for it, yes. 5% crit? That generates more Opportunist procs thus granting more Initiative allowing more Death Blossom to be used allowing more bleeds to be stacked up allowing more condition damage.
The only attacks that matter for power in dual skills are Flanking Strike and Pistol Whip, which both would benefit from the sword Traits.
Note: I didn’t mention anything about the 5% damage on dual skills trait. Not only because I don’t have much experience in builds that utilise that much investment in Deadly Arts but because I do also believe that particular trait is pretty bad (There are no dual skills that really get anything from it except from Pistol Whip and Unload builds though I can’t remember if they use Deadly Arts).
That said, the 7% crit chance from behind/side and the 5% damage on dual skills aren’t even in the same trait line… Therefore the argument “Who’d take 5% damage on dual skills when you can take 7% crit” falls short.
Personally I want to see Sword as an option for off-hand. I’d love to a parry move (a la “block and stab”), and some sort of flurry dual skill. The final skill could be some sort of knock back since there’d be no access to stealth, etc.
Um… Are you joking? Death Blossom is a condition damage attack, having it do 5% more damage and 5% more critical chance doesn’t matter.
5% more damage is crap for it, yes. 5% crit? That generates more Opportunist procs thus granting more Initiative allowing more Death Blossom to be used allowing more bleeds to be stacked up allowing more condition damage.
The only attacks that matter for power in dual skills are Flanking Strike and Pistol Whip, which both would benefit from the sword Traits.
Note: I didn’t mention anything about the 5% damage on dual skills trait. Not only because I don’t have much experience in builds that utilise that much investment in Deadly Arts but because I do also believe that particular trait is pretty bad (There are no dual skills that really get anything from it except from Pistol Whip and Unload builds though I can’t remember if they use Deadly Arts).
That said, the 7% crit chance from behind/side and the 5% damage on dual skills aren’t even in the same trait line… Therefore the argument “Who’d take 5% damage on dual skills when you can take 7% crit” falls short.
