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Posted by: gartz.7013

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whats the new pvp meta? did a few hot joins and lyssa d/p is still ok but id like something different

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Posted by: Carpboy.7145

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All the new traits are garbage so….nothing changed :0


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Posted by: Dahkeus.8243

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Nothing’s changed. S/P is slightly nerfed for sPvP, but that’s about it.

Some people are talking about using the confusion on steal for WvW, but if you do this, you lose out on Sleight of Hand (a daze that goes through stability). I guess if you’re playing absolutely solo with a condi build, that’s ok, but in any serious team setting, that daze is clutch for preventing stomps. It’s also a way to prevent burst when you get stunned without a stunbreaker available.

Actually, if you want something different, consider runes of the traveler. They’re decent for mobility since Lyssa is nerfed.

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Posted by: gartz.7013

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with already low condi removal. i just can’t justify taking out lyssa runes. and i knew about the s/p nerf…i used it occasionally and honestly I’m not to upset by it.

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Posted by: Interceptor.2653

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Some people are talking about using the confusion on steal for WvW, but if you do this, you lose out on Sleight of Hand (a daze that goes through stability). I guess if you’re playing absolutely solo with a condi build, that’s ok, but in any serious team setting, that daze is clutch for preventing stomps. It’s also a way to prevent burst when you get stunned without a stunbreaker available.

And what none of those things do, is give you another cover condition for your bleeds, which is seriously important for people who rely on condition damage as a Thief. It also creates a difficult situation for the enemy that you hit. Stomps can be foiled with stealths (we have a couple of those, as Thieves), and people without stunbreakers available might actually have to live with the consequences of a decision.

“That’s OK”? Is there some kind of condi-Thief accreditation process that I wasn’t privy to?

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Posted by: Maugetarr.6823

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with already low condi removal. i just can’t justify taking out lyssa runes. and i knew about the s/p nerf…i used it occasionally and honestly I’m not to upset by it.

What if you added in sigil of generosity which is now available in PvP. It could improve both your DPS and survivability once you put their conditions back on them.

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Posted by: gartz.7013

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i thought about using that when i logged on today. after a few matches i realized that i don’t have my dagger out that much that i can make good use of it. i start with sb until i find a good time to pin in a BS down quick…sadly after a a dozen hot joins and a few solos matches..im kind of upset at the state pvp is in

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Posted by: Maugetarr.6823

Maugetarr.6823

@Magetarr.6823
i thought about using that when i logged on today. after a few matches i realized that i don’t have my dagger out that much that i can make good use of it. i start with sb until i find a good time to pin in a BS down quick…sadly after a a dozen hot joins and a few solos matches..im kind of upset at the state pvp is in

I tried it last night as well, but I can’t tell whether it’s helping or not because sPvP is a zergfest right now. It’ll probably take a week or two before it settles down. It seems so far that either I have virtually no conditions or I’m overwhelmed with conditions and need to pop runes of lyssa. There’s not really a middle ground right now. I’m going to continue to try generosity on both my bow and dagger to see what happens.

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