Guild Wars 2

when using the warriors “whirling axe” i think it is, that i just stole from the warrior. i sometimes get bullrushed just as i cast it(the ability is suppose to evade incoming attacks, and i lose the ability and get stunned.

is there a hidden casttime on this ability

Whirling Axe actually doesn’t evade attacks. Any sort of incapacitating effect will break your channel. Bull’s Charge has a knockdown attached to it, as do various other Warrior skills and utilities. Since it’s a stolen skill, if you’re interrupted while channelling it, you lose out on the remainder of the damage just as a warrior’s skill will go on CD if his/her W.A. gets interrupted.

thats strange, i could have sworn it dodges attacks, must have been people being to scared to hit me when im spinning all this time lol.

I’m pretty sure it does have an evasion component (part of what makes it grossly powerful), but I am unsure exactly what the mechanics on it are.

My mind must play tricks on me with this one, I’m sure I don’t notice any evasive effect. I’ve gone to only using it cruelly on a lone downed player or just throwing it into thin air to reset Steal. It certainly doesn’t pick up on your weapon damage so it does little for me damage wise.

A thief stealing a warrior’s whirling axe has very high, if not invulnerable, evasive effect. In fact, the stolen skill can sometimes be more effective than our dagger storm since high evasiveness also means rarely any, or all, cc skills land on you as well. Frankly, I’ve thought of whirling axe as an invincible attack since I’ve never taken damage or been cc’d while channeling it.

Look, Whirling Axe does NOT grant evasion, stability, or any sort of damage reduction. I cannot tell you how many times I’ve been interrupted using it, or even how many times I’ve been able to stop both Warriors and Thieves mid-channel with stuns, dazes, pulls, etc. Evasion would stop CC which I am positive I can still dish out consistently.

It’s nowhere NEAR an invincibility button. No one trying to hit or interrupt you while you channel W.A. is a stupid move showcasing a serious lack of skill on their part, especially considering how vulnerable you are during it compared to Daggerstorm.

Probably just you then, because I don’t take damage for some reason when I use whirlwind. I can see the enemy desperately trying to kill me, but something’s up when I see 10-12 evade messages pop up consecutively. This not just happens in pvp, it also happens in pve.

You can actively use your dodge during W.A., unlike Daggerstorm, but the ability itself does not innately provide evasion.

i normally let it channel and not do much of anything while its channeling

Not sure then, because I interrupt W.A. on a consistent basis. I don’t even bother trying to do damage with how easy it is to just stun or daze it. Maybe thats where our disconnection is coming from: I can’t speak for damage landing or not as I don’t look for it, but I know for a fact that I can interrupt it or that it’s bugged to be interruptible.

EDIT: By the way, evasion is either there or it isn’t. There is no partial evasive state. You said a “high evasiveness” in your previous post which is simply inaccurate. If a skill evades, it stops everything. If a skill doesn’t evade, then it has a different effect preventing either CC(Stability) or damage(invulnerability, protection, block, etc.).

No clue, but i’ll pay more attention to see if W.A. can be broken or not