The thing that there is a scientific side in all the one.
The important one is true. Of me the ruler of my fate, and me also the commander of my soul.
CARRY ALL WEAPON SETS
I cannot stress how important that is.
pistol off hand gives access to daze
sword gives mobility
SB gives AoE
and Dagger… does whatever dagger does…
Once you carry all the weapons you’ll see more usefulness in DGNs
and that DGN you did probably was tough for you.
Tip, if you see any of those lizards with a charging on them, Have a pistol off hand and daze them
I can’t speak for low levels, but in explorables/fractals I find myself switching between weapon sets often. D/P is pretty much my main set, but I will use S/P and/or S/D if I need a cleave or daze-lockdown. P/P for whenever I can’t get close to something, or D/D if I need to burn something down fast (although I find I am able to used D/P in most D/D situations without any issue).
If you find yourself dying a lot, I would suggest dumping D/D in favor of another set, since D/D is pretty much the squishiest set we have. Try D/P or S/P, and if you are still having issues P/P is a even more safer route (at the cost of damage).
Got to agree with Fletch S/D can be a monster set in dungeons.
As for bringing every set… Even though I have every set most of the time its a waist.
I will tell you something the best thing you can do is know the run simple as that. Knowing the dungeon will often lead to you being able to run it no matter the set you use. Because the dungeons can be tricky requires lots of timing and you may or may not be carrying your team.
As far as thieves sucking in dungeons. Factually we have little to no room for error. Even defensively speced we just don’t scale like warrior or guardian and our range option while niche is a little lack luster.In the long run your skill level dictate which content you can do on thief comfortably.
Best weapon sets based on skills alone
D/P for any boss that can be blinded
S/P because you can PW evade many bosses taking nearly no damage even full glass
S/D because over all it grants you the most options and is the most useful set to the team over all.
SB cluster bomb. One of the best weapons for clearing trash. A very cheap evade skill you can weakness debuff a boss and one of the best accesses to poison in the game (can really help with some fractal bosses that regen). But the best thing about this weapon is the cluster bomb blast finisher. Pairing that skill with Ranger or ele or guardian who knows what they’re doing can lead to incredible synergy and thus faster runs.
What do you guys think about Death Blossom spam + Caltrops build in dungeons?
What do you guys think about Death Blossom spam + Caltrops build in dungeons?
pray no one else is using bleeds, because i solo can do 25 stacks of them and need to wait for them to get lower before i do my next attack…
I did TA for first time in months on my thief again last night. Doing my monthly dungeons. I ran it twice and pretty much destroyed it with S/D. I wasn’t doing the most dps, but between blind on stealth+daze I was keeping everyone in my group from getting hit. Ran short bow for other set because of the blossoms that need to be killed in that dungeon from range.
In terms of gear, what do you guys think is a gear set that goes well with most weapon choices?
Condition (carrion) only really works with daggers (and SB to some extent), and of course has the problem with the 25 stacks cap. Is a mixture of zerker + some vit/toughness items a good starting point?
I’m still building my first decent (rares + exotics) gear set. I enjoyed D/D condition a lot while leveling, but I can’t really play it properly in dungeons since I’m still learning them.
I did TA for first time in months on my thief again last night. Doing my monthly dungeons. I ran it twice and pretty much destroyed it with S/D. I wasn’t doing the most dps, but between blind on stealth+daze I was keeping everyone in my group from getting hit. Ran short bow for other set because of the blossoms that need to be killed in that dungeon from range.
I am thinking about run a S/D build, but I don’t like to be so glassy. What gear do you use?
Another good option is venom share, something kind of like this…
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-c3RV-FCRwkZ0Z5BPFd0;9;4T9T;037B2;048Bo
You get all the venom sharing goodies… party might and healing, lots of weakness/vuln/poison and like a 5-6 second stun if you get a good basilisk share off (the range is short). Also offhand pistol utility (blinds/dazes), and good damage options with backstab and heartseeker. You can combo into stealth by using HS in a black powder field.
I am wrecking dungeons with my thief, and as a D/D full zerker gear, zerker ammie and ring, the rest valkyrie trinkets. I’m running a 0 30 30 10 0 build with damage and utility. By utility I mean 30 points in shadow arts for shadow rejuvenation (even as GC I hardly ever die due to my sustained healing) then I run infusion of shadow and blind on stealth, every 3 seconds I land a C&D which is an Aoe blind, and I run hidden killer for the guaranteed 6-8k backstab with a flame sigil on my dagger. Here’s how it works. Multiple enemies, I run shortbow, then swap to D/D for blinds and high dps to clean up what’s left. I’m built around stealthing as healing, and protecting the group. I run hide in shadows, blinding powder (not to stealth me, but teammates) shadow step, and shadow refuge with dagger storm as elite. This build and gear set up allows me to put out ridiculous dps, constantly heal through endless C&D (if I get low and my heal is down, 3-4 C&D will heal me back up enought to go back to work, at 16k health) and protect/Rez my whole team un-interrupted. While fighting I always keep an eye on my teammates health, if someone pulls too much aggro or goes down, I use blinding powder immediately to drop their aggro or Rez, then shadow refuge for oh kitten rezzes, or the combo field for life steal. Everytime I have a ranger in the group I’m always aware of when they drop their water field. Cluster bomb in it for extra healing is amazing. You just have to be aware of your surroundings.
For higher (this is relative as i haven’t done extremely high level) fractals thieves are invaluable for the stealth and utility we can provide. Free unmolested rezzes are a Unique specialty that only we can bring that is priceless, (especially when you aoe blind the mobs around you) and never shunned. An example of where we can compare to “The class that is needed in every group” take the harpy fractal. I replace shadow step with smoke screen, and I do the guardians job quicker. Grab multiple bird aggro, drop smoke screen (which absorbs projectiles), kill bird one, blinding powder on my group (to jump to next platform without pulling aggro) then grab multiple aggro again, and dagger storm to reflect projectiles. Follow it up with another smoke screen and your team will be amazed at how a thief performed a guardians duty and looked kitten stylish doing it Cliffside at the arm seals I can easily hold a hold side by myself without the seal healing just by C&N blinds and heals no other class can do things like this.
If anyone has any questions or needs help feel free to pm me and talk to me in game.
Swiftstepp
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Did P/P SB today AC all ways. Fun thing and no wipes whatsoever. Great team and I think I did fine too.
Just a matter of playstyle and other people as well.
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