Guild Wars 2

I just want A-Net to post this specialization already. If I don’t like it, I’ll just re-roll to a different profession. This whole speculation of which weapon is really becoming quite a chore to sift though to find useful (and relevant) information….

Btw, Thanks [Teef] for posting something useful in the thief forums!

Yea I wouldn’t mind knowing so that I can put more time into other classes. Been loving berserker rampage warrior, shatter mesmer, pu shatter condi mesmer.

Thief is OK but can’t stand on a point for more than 2-3s before getting focused and killed… I have a lot of issues dieing to shadowstep not going over a small hill or something. A small lag spike or after cast not allowing instant shadowstep to work. You literally have to play perfectly to not die. All other classes can make tons of mistakes and live even with berserker ammy.

Yup, Its issues like the ones you are having currently, is what these forums should be filled with. I’d say your first mistake with the thief is using the berserker ammy ( i know i’m prolly about to get hate mail for this). I found that Marauders or Carrion (if condi) ammys work the best. Also, roll for int and withdraw are lifesavers for situations like that one.

Agreed on the amulets. They do work best now that damage has bin highted overall on all classes. Zerky squishy builds is obviously not the way to go unless you like to hit & run tactics. Witch works well also. But you hardly ever stay long in a fight or live threw it if you do.

Feel like moving to maurader or even valk isn’t worth it.

We still are very squishy and can’t stay on a point. Valk maybe die in 5-6 hits. Maurader 3-4, berserker, 2-3.

The offense you lose from not using berserker just doesn’t seem worth the trade off. Which is why I’m still running berserker.

The offense to defense ratio from going into more defense ammy is way off for thief because of our innate squishyness…

Sooooooooooooooooo dragged out. This is more waiting than the time I waited for Star Ocean 3 to stop being delayed. We might actually have The Last Guardian release before we have Thief spec news.

swinsk.6410:

Feel like moving to maurader or even valk isn’t worth it.

We still are very squishy and can’t stay on a point. Valk maybe die in 5-6 hits. Maurader 3-4, berserker, 2-3.

The offense you lose from not using berserker just doesn’t seem worth the trade off. Which is why I’m still running berserker.

The offense to defense ratio from going into more defense ammy is way off for thief because of our innate squishyness…

Oh plzzz. the thief damage outburst is the highest of all the classes. Just because you cant one shot anybody no more does not mean the damage outcome is not worth it. You got to realise that everybody is using a more sustain amulet. Or else die from a burst. Seriously, are you really expecting a thief to bunk & tank a point & dish out one shots? No! You hit high damage…you get out…you reset… & you repeat. In the end, you almost always win. but unless a class has a squishy build, one shots not gonna happen.

Vieux P.1238:

swinsk.6410:

Feel like moving to maurader or even valk isn’t worth it.

We still are very squishy and can’t stay on a point. Valk maybe die in 5-6 hits. Maurader 3-4, berserker, 2-3.

The offense you lose from not using berserker just doesn’t seem worth the trade off. Which is why I’m still running berserker.

The offense to defense ratio from going into more defense ammy is way off for thief because of our innate squishyness…

Oh plzzz. the thief damage outburst is the highest of all the classes. Just because you cant one shot anybody no more does not mean the damage outcome is not worth it. You got to realise that everybody is using a more sustain amulet. Or else die from a burst. Seriously, are you really expecting a thief to bunk & tank a point & dish out one shots? No! You hit high damage…you get out…you reset… & you repeat. In the end, you almost always win. but unless a class has a squishy build, one shots not gonna happen.

Highest damage? I’ve had mindwrack hit 5k per clone on me, not even counting mirror blade. That’s about a little less than one backstab per clone. The rampage warriors can hit upwards of 7k autoattacks.

Not everyone is using marauders. I’m plenty fine on zerk on my Mesmer, as is lord Helseth. Probably has something to do with the 4k advantage mesmers naturally have over thief in HP.

The rest of your post, do you want some cheese with your whine?

Doggie.3184:

Sooooooooooooooooo dragged out. This is more waiting than the time I waited for Star Ocean 3 to stop being delayed. We might actually have The Last Guardian release before we have Thief spec news.

This made me giggle because I remember this long kitten wait.

swinsk.6410:

Feel like moving to maurader or even valk isn’t worth it.

We still are very squishy and can’t stay on a point. Valk maybe die in 5-6 hits. Maurader 3-4, berserker, 2-3.

The offense you lose from not using berserker just doesn’t seem worth the trade off. Which is why I’m still running berserker.

The offense to defense ratio from going into more defense ammy is way off for thief because of our innate squishyness…

umm I spec marauder because I dont wanna die from like 3 stack of bleeds which always seems to happen on berseker because you only have like 10-11 k health vs 14-15 with Marauder, plus I literally only see like a 1k to 500 damage difference. lol WELL worth that trade off.

5k? …… Your crackers will be fine thx. 5k per clone? wut!?! you a rabbit? … not even in the best possible outcome. 4.3 to 4.5 at best if the mesmer is full zerky squishy build. But lets say 5k per clone. I can see why anybody that has no sustain abilities & is of a squishy build & dose’nt dodge the shatter would melt. Sure! Other then that. the battle should last long anoth to determine who has the best skill sets.

But i’m curious, you telling me your not bursting out more damage? dude, something wrong with your build. you need to recheck.

another glass of whine with your crackers?

where does this strange believe come from backstabs deal 10 thousands of dmg…
with marauder im hitting for 3-5k, (maybe 5.5k on fulzerk) depending on the tankyness of the enemy. ofc there are modifiers for around 30% IF enemy is lowlife/has condis on him, the same time he may have protection buffs/just pop some invuln.
warriors as an example deal way more dmg than thief. On single target. AND has tons of Aoes at his disposal. what makes p/d thief (with his mediocre dmg) strong is the blind + hide on demand. since the last big patch every class can melt squishies in seconds. some even while being tanky (and thief is not one of them for sure)

Vieux P.1238:

5k? …… Your crackers will be fine thx. 5k per clone? wut!?! you a rabbit? … not even in the best possible outcome. 4.3 to 4.5 at best if the mesmer is full zerky squishy build. But lets say 5k per clone. I can see why anybody that has no sustain abilities & is of a squishy build & dose’nt dodge the shatter would melt. Sure! Other then that. the battle should last long anoth to determine who has the best skill sets.

But i’m curious, you telling me your not bursting out more damage? dude, something wrong with your build. you need to recheck.

another glass of whine with your crackers?

I’ve had mesmer friends test it in PvP. They report 6.5k is the highest they can get, I am assuming with max might and vulnerability.

Lol, dodging a shatter? How do you dodge a GS2 F1 shatter that the mesmer was able to walk up to you with 22 seconds of stealth (PU mass invis, decoy, torch 4). Melee range GS2 F1 alone with no other clones hits way harder than backstab. Maybe YOU should go check your numbers of backstab on a full health target. Most I can get is maybe 7.5k with no might (thieves have no reliable access) and no vulnerability (no reliable access) on a full health target. Your QQ about thieves “outbursting” mesmers has to do with you sitting around in their dagger auto attack.

L2P.