Guild Wars 2

just got hit by this. what on earth it that? im not a glass build btw. i mean killshot never hit me this hard. i was like holy kitten that was one heck of a hit! is that normal or….?

Well it’s the Axe burst skill and is potentially one of our most devastating abilities. High stacks of might most likely? Toughness only takes you so far against the game mechanics! Ouchie. What’s your armor/defence rating?

Edit: Also a combination of a number of other possible things – Grandmaster trait in Discipline line making burst skills do more damage, perhaps. Was he below 50% health? There’s a trait in Tactics that gives +20% damage while below that threshold, too.

Most likely just exceptionally high crit damage bonus, though. I’ve seen 10k’s when hovering around 90% crit damage with unexceptional Power stats – offensive builds can stack 120%. It’ll cut through pretty much anything if it crits at that level.

2.3 k armor and 1.5k toughness. and no not below 50 percent as he surprised me.

selan.8354:

just got hit by this. what on earth it that? im not a glass build btw. i mean killshot never hit me this hard. i was like holy kitten that was one heck of a hit! is that normal or….?

Well that’s a Shield Bash into Eviscerate. In most cases, that means 100% crit rate.

Throw in full Berserker stuff and you’re gonna be looking at some impressive damage.

2.3 k armor and 1.5k toughness. and no not below 50 percent as he surprised me.

That’s actually not that high.

1.5k toughness practically is glass against Eviscerate, unfortunately. I’m not surprised, really. It’s painful when it lands, as is intended.

oh wow nice one i was downed so fast. thats pretty strong. was he maybe a glasscannon?

Yeah, looks like a case of full glass catching semi-glass off-guard, that is a lot of damage but it’s achievable if the warrior has specced 100% into damage and possibly built around eviscerate. The only advice I can give you is to be a bit more attentive and look around, warriors are generally fairly slow and don’t have a way to sneak up on someone like a thief might, with eviscerate being a very short range and clunky skill.

50% + chance to crt while stunned
Destruction of the empowered
10% crit damage with axe main hand
signet of rage
5% more damage on sigil axe main hand maybe another 5% on shield
More damage per boon you have
All the Discipline line gives you more damage with burst skills
15% more crit chance while adrenaline is full

Some of the things that can pump the damage of eviserate, there is a guy that made a video in WvW downing people with i think 20k eviserates i dont remember the excact number but it was a lot of damage.

The video is cooked ie 2 warrirors one massively buffed, the other massively debuffed and downed the victim has to use haste to give himself the debuff of +25% damage on himself.

You probably had tons of vulnerability stacked up on you as well, but ya glass warrior can hit hard, oddly eviscerate hits not as hard as kill shot (you would think a melee burst would hit harder than a ranged.. but ya)

With all the obvious skull cracker builds running around this ancient goodie has made its way back around again

12.k Eviscerate isn’t even high for PVE/WvW…lol

I’ve done 12k in PVP where crit damage is less than half what it is in WvW and power doesn’t get anywhere near as high either.

2.1k armor is full glass, 2.3k is basically still glass.

Warrior bursts are neat in that the range is absolutely incredible. A 14k crit can be a high hit for a glass warrior, but if one really wants to pull out the numbers 20k+ is possible.

Turbo Whale.1738:

Warrior bursts are neat in that the range is absolutely incredible. A 14k crit can be a high hit for a glass warrior, but if one really wants to pull out the numbers 20k+ is possible.

Sure, on a pure glass upscale.

12.8k is an understatement for zerker warriors running axe. I’ve personally hit 22k on a lvl 80 elementalist.

I run Berserker’s power + desperate power + dual wielding + burst mastery + sigil of force. That’s a 45% damage amplifier with 2.6k power (including bloodlust) and 132% critical damage. The damage is brutal but if you can’t land those eviscerates, you’re pretty much screwed.

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Turbo Whale.1738:

Warrior bursts are neat in that the range is absolutely incredible. A 14k crit can be a high hit for a glass warrior, but if one really wants to pull out the numbers 20k+ is possible.

Sure, on a pure glass upscale.

Try it for yourself if you don’t believe me. A berserker armor/orb and trinket build with glassy traits but defensive utilities normally hits around 12k-14k easy. If you swap out defensive utilities with only offensive ones (namely the vulnerability shout, might signet, and FGH or crit damage banner) 16ks are common and 20k are maxes (all on level 80s). obviously the latter build is useless for anything else

My warrior’s got zerk gear, rabid back/accessories and cavalier necklace/rings and I regularly hit people in WvW for 10-16k depending on their armor and how many might stacks/vulnerability stacks I’ve added. Rending Strikes is amazing when you chain axe 4, 5 then eviscerate. Generally I get about 10 stacks of bleeding and vulnerability solely with that rotation (due to precise strikes as well), and I can stack 14 stacks of might on myself if I’ve just swapped from Longbow. And blasted my combustible shot. It doesn’t happen too terribly often, but when the stars align I can hit a lowbie for nearly 20k. I love my eviscerate.

UnrealUK.9506:

1.5k toughness practically is glass against Eviscerate, unfortunately. I’m not surprised, really. It’s painful when it lands, as is intended.

well im a mesmer and i wear rabid gear…thats is not glasscannon mesmer….for a warrior or guardian or anyone else apart from ele and thief i’d say ..thats as much as u can get if u actually wanna deal dmg asa mesmer……

but wow that is a really stong attack.

uh only 12k? kitten you are lucky i havent hit you yet :P But yeh it takes a second to set it up but when that nuke goes off you will feel dat kitten yo. But it is very easy to dodge and you can see it coming from a mile away.

selan.8354:

UnrealUK.9506:

1.5k toughness practically is glass against Eviscerate, unfortunately. I’m not surprised, really. It’s painful when it lands, as is intended.

well im a mesmer and i wear rabid gear…thats is not glasscannon mesmer….for a warrior or guardian or anyone else apart from ele and thief i’d say ..thats as much as u can get if u actually wanna deal dmg asa mesmer……

but wow that is a really stong attack.

Rabid gear is condition gear, mind you. Don’t expect to be hitting big numbers.

Glass cannon, him. You say you aren’t glass but I dunno how much your total armor -taken into account your armor+toughness- is.

Maybe had boons stacked from banners or otherwise, etc.

Food. Blood lust stacks. Sharpies. 5-10% damage increase from sigil of impact, sigil of dmg etc. Runes that give increased damage or crit damage.

Basically maximizing raw damage or crit damage on the expense of survivability and/or crit chance.

Used vulnerability on you just prior to the burst -I usually do so smart players don’t have time to cleanse/notice it-.

Had 15% increased damage and various other increase damage traits lined up. Maxed out in the 1st and final trait lines.

The only things in-game that counts is protection. Toughness doesn’t do much against burst. Why do you think guardians can run in and out of zerglings unscathed?

This is not new and thieves can dish out similar damage while managing to get away easier but you don’t notice it with thieves because it is spread out on consecutive hits in a short time period almost equaling or more than that from a single eviscerate.

It is doable. It is not a problem in wvw from warriors because wvw is about numbers and high dps axe warriors get stomped in wvw.

12k’s for Evis’s is not that high, you can drop those numbers with out being fully glass. i’ve broken 20k+ on lvl 80’s multiple times , max i have been able to get has been 22.5k on an 80 with just self buff’s. you could prolly do close to 30k if you had full might stacks fully debuff’f target and banners.