Guild Wars 2

Is it just me or?

I like rifle allot but its pretty annoying enough that skills dont go off when your target gets behind/side of you.. (very annoying if you want to use Brutal shot for the evade also)
OK.. but then we have Rifle Butt..

This skill should be used too interrupt ppl, but its so kitten slow and its range and radius is tiny as hell.. when ppl get close you really have to start casting the skill or else they are inside you and then it fails..

would really love to see this skill getting more range from 130 to 180 or much faster..
PS tooltip says it 1/4 sec but its the same if not slower then Point blank shot which says its 1/2 sec

(I can cry if you compare this skill with stuff like Deflecting shot.. look how much that thing does on range! it can even fire behind you.. it blinds does INSANE dmg and is unblockable.. moehhaha tjeeeez aahwell thats HOT.. all HOT stuff is better pff that design team is so bad.. look at Core weapons skills and compare them to Elite weapons.. what a joke)

Landing rifle butt is purely a l2p issue. If you stick with the weapon you’ll get the hang of it through use. Then you’ll love it. It’s one of my fav knockbacks in the game and I love that it’s there on the rifle bar.

The same goes for the evade. Also a l2p issue. Having come from Mesmer where numerous skills required you to be facing your opponent, and the movement buttons can cancel your own cast, it’s just a matter of adjusting your mind mechanically.

Are there QoL changes that could/should be made? Yes. But until the day that happens, you’re just going to have to git gud.

Ross Biddle.2367:

Landing rifle butt is purely a l2p issue. If you stick with the weapon you’ll get the hang of it through use. Then you’ll love it. It’s one of my fav knockbacks in the game and I love that it’s there on the rifle bar.

The same goes for the evade. Also a l2p issue. Having come from Mesmer where numerous skills required you to be facing your opponent, and the movement buttons can cancel your own cast, it’s just a matter of adjusting your mind mechanically.

Are there QoL changes that could/should be made? Yes. But until the day that happens, you’re just going to have to git gud.

L2p issue? uhm sorry but i play this game 4 years now only on warrior and i know how rifle works, sure i can land the rifle butt and sure i know when to cast it..

But is it a great interrupt? No
Its cast time is too long to setup as a melee interrupt (no problem vs static ppl that are rezzing or something) but try landing rifle butt vs thiefs or rangers that swoop around you, it will fail ALLOT. it does help to not use your movement keys (same for #4)

But by all means, that doesnt mean its great, most melee interrupt skills are much faster or even have a leap on it.. this skill does not while its a Melee interrupt skill on a ranged weapon. and when looking at the tooltip it should be fast (1/4)

Some CC skills are slow like hammer, but thats because you can chain CC with those weapons, other weapons that only have 1 or 2 CC skills are often much faster or more range because its used to interrupt, not to chain CC, and for that reason i find rifle butt slow on melee 130 range skill

nicknamenick.2437:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Landing rifle butt is purely a l2p issue. If you stick with the weapon you’ll get the hang of it through use. Then you’ll love it. It’s one of my fav knockbacks in the game and I love that it’s there on the rifle bar.

The same goes for the evade. Also a l2p issue. Having come from Mesmer where numerous skills required you to be facing your opponent, and the movement buttons can cancel your own cast, it’s just a matter of adjusting your mind mechanically.

Are there QoL changes that could/should be made? Yes. But until the day that happens, you’re just going to have to git gud.

L2p issue? uhm sorry but i play this game 4 years now only on warrior and i know how rifle works, sure i can land the rifle butt and sure i know when to cast it..

But is it a great interrupt? No
Its cast time is too long to setup as a melee interrupt (no problem vs static ppl that are rezzing or something) but try landing rifle butt vs thiefs or rangers that swoop around you, it will fail ALLOT. it does help to not use your movement keys (same for #4)

But by all means, that doesnt mean its great, most melee interrupt skills are much faster or even have a leap on it.. this skill does not while its a Melee interrupt skill on a ranged weapon. and when looking at the tooltip it should be fast (1/4)

Some CC skills are slow like hammer, but thats because you can chain CC with those weapons, other weapons that only have 1 or 2 CC skills are often much faster or more range because its used to interrupt, not to chain CC, and for that reason i find rifle butt slow on melee 130 range skill

The use of rifle butt is not to interrupt, but to increase the gap, hence a knockback and not a daze/stun/knockdown. It would be a bad idea to use your rifle to trade dmg with a melee. I don’t see the problem with hitting it, it works like any other cleave as long as u have any sense of control over ur mouse it’s np, you don’t even have to target.

As for #4, if you struggle with it you can just untarget and retarget and it will always get the dodge roll and the immobolize as well unless you manage to somehow be turned away from the target despite a brief jump of gap where u can turn and target at the last moment. Especially useful for when u wanna kite or escape. You just turn camera, jump, right click and target nearest enemy right before it will shoot. I don’t see how people struggle maneuvering with abilities like it.

The ammount of time you’ve played is not proportional to your skill lvl, it’s a prerequisite.

Obindo.6802:

nicknamenick.2437:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Landing rifle butt is purely a l2p issue. If you stick with the weapon you’ll get the hang of it through use. Then you’ll love it. It’s one of my fav knockbacks in the game and I love that it’s there on the rifle bar.

The same goes for the evade. Also a l2p issue. Having come from Mesmer where numerous skills required you to be facing your opponent, and the movement buttons can cancel your own cast, it’s just a matter of adjusting your mind mechanically.

Are there QoL changes that could/should be made? Yes. But until the day that happens, you’re just going to have to git gud.

L2p issue? uhm sorry but i play this game 4 years now only on warrior and i know how rifle works, sure i can land the rifle butt and sure i know when to cast it..

But is it a great interrupt? No
Its cast time is too long to setup as a melee interrupt (no problem vs static ppl that are rezzing or something) but try landing rifle butt vs thiefs or rangers that swoop around you, it will fail ALLOT. it does help to not use your movement keys (same for #4)

But by all means, that doesnt mean its great, most melee interrupt skills are much faster or even have a leap on it.. this skill does not while its a Melee interrupt skill on a ranged weapon. and when looking at the tooltip it should be fast (1/4)

Some CC skills are slow like hammer, but thats because you can chain CC with those weapons, other weapons that only have 1 or 2 CC skills are often much faster or more range because its used to interrupt, not to chain CC, and for that reason i find rifle butt slow on melee 130 range skill

The use of rifle butt is not to interrupt, but to increase the gap, hence a knockback and not a daze/stun/knockdown. It would be a bad idea to use your rifle to trade dmg with a melee. I don’t see the problem with hitting it, it works like any other cleave as long as u have any sense of control over ur mouse it’s np, you don’t even have to target.

As for #4, if you struggle with it you can just untarget and retarget and it will always get the dodge roll and the immobolize as well unless you manage to somehow be turned away from the target despite a brief jump of gap where u can turn and target at the last moment. Especially useful for when u wanna kite or escape. You just turn camera, jump, right click and target nearest enemy right before it will shoot. I don’t see how people struggle maneuvering with abilities like it.

The ammount of time you’ve played is not proportional to your skill lvl, it’s a prerequisite.

I didnt say i cant land it, its thats its much harder compared to most interrupt skills (even when its a knockback to create distance its still a CC interrupt, but nvm) esp vs HOT weapons where they are often unblockable fast or do allot more..

About #4, i know you can untarget so it always goes off, thats what i use more these days when you do want the evade. but then again i dont understand why i have to do this on rifle to untarget with #4 or use rifle butt smart (right before someone gets into melee distance etc) while other weapons can just pop it and forget about it.. like most HOT stuff/weapons.

They have improved rifle allot (and nerfed some from the trait but whatever) but stuff like this should either all be working like this or they should all be working like HOT stuff, there is still much balance differnce between skills before and after HOT, thats why i highlight these skills.

Anyways ty for feedback. untarget and dont use movement skills are great tips for those dont know about it. (like gunflame will pretty much always hit if you dont move while target is rolling around you)

problem with rifle is the targetting of it is horrid. So with rifle butt there is a delay on it which you can adapt to for targets in the firing radius…..but couple that delay with “turning” more than 90degrees and often time you’ll just put it on cd rather than proc it. Also if you have something targetted that gets behind you when u proc the butt….what happens? It goes on cd and doesnt even go off….so anyone infront of you who would have gotten hit doesn’t. Rifle is too targetting heavey……and when the targetting system sucks its not a good combination.