Guild Wars 2

We all had high hopes that Cleansing Ire would proc when you use a burst skill, only to have Josh crush our hopes by saying it was a typo. Now I’m confused as to why exactly you guys moved Cleansing Ire to grandmaster then? If it only procs when you hit with a burst skill, it doesn’t deserve to be in the grandmaster slot.

I understand if you don’t want to change it because you feel as if it would be too strong, but then in that case why does Longbow’s burst skill Combustive Shot allow it to proc without needing to hit someone then? Combustive Shot is Warrior’s most powerful burst skill; burning and direct damage equates up to a decent amount of damage on the enemy, fire field that allows you and your allies to blash finish and leap finisher, area control, and of course proc CI without any worry of hitting your enemy.

If you want to argue that landing a hit to proc CI promotes skillful play, why then Longbow does the exact opposite? At least make CI activate when adrenaline is spent, not when you hit with a burst skill. This will allow other weapons to be brought up to Longbow and no longer will practically force Warriors to take longbow to be viable.

Another thing, all our defensive traits in the Defense lines compete with another. During the April ready up many Elementalists were mad that Evasive Arcane and Elemental Attunement were competing with each other in the same trait line, forcing them to choose one or the other. Now Warrior’s are facing the same thing because conditions, traditionally Warrior’s biggest headache, will force us to taking Cleasing Ire leaving out Last Stand and Rousing Resilience. Either allow CI to proc when you spend adrenaline alone, or move it to master because it doesn’t deserve GM.

Unless you’re moving CI back to master, then remove the heal portion of Rousing Resilience and give it to Defy Pain, then switch them so that RR is in the master slot. Rousing Resilience synergies better with Last Stand than Defy Pain does, because if you stun break with Defy/Endure Pain you’ll be taking no damage anyway so that’s 4 seconds of RR gone to waste.

Tl;DR: Make Cleasing Ire proc when you use a burst skill, not land a hit with it. Give Defy Pain the healing portion of Rousing Resilience and switch them so that we can have some more defensive options in the Defense trait line, instead of choosing one of only three real defense traits in the GM spot.

Well, it doesn’t really matter if it is a GM or a Master trait. Having Last Stand and CI in the same tier is bad though. LS will never see any use, but with the buffs to shout builds stances really need that boost to be able to compete.

Cleanse ire and last stand in the same tier is a MASSIVE nerf to everyone playing zerk/non shout builds. Most players in top end spvp also use last stand currently for the “two layered” stability it provides ( one automatic, one utility based)

This nerf-by-promotion of LAST STAND to grandmaster along with CI is a bummer.

Kaga.7629:

Cleanse ire and last stand in the same tier is a MASSIVE nerf to everyone playing zerk/non shout builds. Most players in top end spvp also use last stand currently for the “two layered” stability it provides ( one automatic, one utility based)

This nerf-by-promotion of LAST STAND to grandmaster along with CI is a bummer.

This honestly. I don’t care if they remove the vigor or not like they mentioned on the April ready up, but with the Frenzy change I’d like to be able to use Last Stand in a stance build. But it’s suicide to choose it over Cleansing Ire. Shouts don’t compete with anything, in fact you can use Cleansing Ire with Vigorous Shouts or Rousing Resilience with Shrug it Off which is much more powerful. I don’t know why Anet is pidgeonholeing us into shouts shouts shouts.

What!!! i was so happy when it looked like CI would proc on use. If its not then its crazy to put it as a GM trait!!!

tbh – it does not matter anymore what tier of trait it is – you will always have full trait line filled when lev 80

however I agree it is extremely annoying to proc on hit instead of use….

Ryouzanpaku.1273:

tbh – it does not matter anymore what tier of trait it is – you will always have full trait line filled when lev 80

however I agree it is extremely annoying to proc on hit instead of use….

not really because we were hoping to slot a good GM skill as part of the 3 full lines change. At least earlier when we saw it as a GM we thought we were getting something for it. Now its just a plain nerf since its almost a mandatory skill for pvp/wvw