Anet thank you SO MUCH <3 Hugh
You seem a bit bitter, if you could rather tell us what problem you have when you fight with a warrior, your class/build, then maybe we could provide some guidance and tactics so that you emerge victorious in your duels… As a matter of fact, there’s a lot of misinformation in your post, a warrior can hit hard for sure, but has lots of serious weaknesses you can exploit.
But I don’t think you’ll receive any constructive post after so much QQ, whether you’re serious or simply trolling, so you’ve basically just wasted an opportunity to get acquainted with a class community, and ultimately become better at the game.
I really wish there was a downvote option /sigh
You seem a bit bitter, if you could rather tell us what problem you have when you fight with a warrior, your class/build, then maybe we could provide some guidance and tactics so that you emerge victorious in your duels… As a matter of fact, there’s a lot of misinformation in your post, a warrior can hit hard for sure, but has lots of serious weaknesses you can exploit.
But I don’t think you’ll receive any constructive post after so much QQ, whether you’re serious or simply trolling, so you’ve basically just wasted an opportunity to get acquainted with a class community, and ultimately become better at the game.
I can win against warriors, everyone just seems keep saying condi burst them, bait your condis, condi condi condi just how this game is Condition Wars 2 aka CW2.
anyway enough trolling. I don’t mean to say warriors are overpowered n all. I simply hate that as an engineer (berserker) I cannot do anything without CC/soft CC.
There is no chance to immobilize a warrior of that kind. Not because of adrenaline stance only, it seems like it is a meta or something. If they are immobilized, movement skills cleanses them. If I try to CC, of course with my rifle #4 that also knocks me back, they get stability proc and I get knocked back.
I simply want Anet to deal with those kinds of traits (stability,endure pain,etc etc).
engi lossing to a warrior?
l2p issue…
engi lossing to a warrior?
l2p issue…
That’s not how it goes..
engi lossing to a warrior?
l2p issue…
It’s not though. I think the problem is that evi/sh bash combo. It’s just repeatable and it’s so easy to just run away and wait for cds. And in axe just chop away a couple of times with your 5k autos and wait for two dodges, press nr 4 and heave away with your evi. I don’t run axe because it’s too cheesy. 6K autos. Like what.
Turn down the auto and made evi hard hitting but not a leap. Make it stationary.
EDIT: I know this is an issue for several good engies that I play with which is why I don’t believe it’s a L2p issue.
You seem a bit bitter, if you could rather tell us what problem you have when you fight with a warrior, your class/build, then maybe we could provide some guidance and tactics so that you emerge victorious in your duels… As a matter of fact, there’s a lot of misinformation in your post, a warrior can hit hard for sure, but has lots of serious weaknesses you can exploit.
But I don’t think you’ll receive any constructive post after so much QQ, whether you’re serious or simply trolling, so you’ve basically just wasted an opportunity to get acquainted with a class community, and ultimately become better at the game.
I can win against warriors, everyone just seems keep saying condi burst them, bait your condis, condi condi condi just how this game is Condition Wars 2 aka CW2.
anyway enough trolling. I don’t mean to say warriors are overpowered n all. I simply hate that as an engineer (berserker) I cannot do anything without CC/soft CC.
There is no chance to immobilize a warrior of that kind. Not because of adrenaline stance only, it seems like it is a meta or something. If they are immobilized, movement skills cleanses them. If I try to CC, of course with my rifle #4 that also knocks me back, they get stability proc and I get knocked back.
I simply want Anet to deal with those kinds of traits (stability,endure pain,etc etc).
The reason behind those traits is that without them warrior has no sustain at all. It’s all about window of opportunity with a warrior. Warrior used to be even more dependant on window of opportunity, for example in the old days to land a hundred blades you basically popped an elite, 3 utilities and 100 blades to go in for the kill. If that missed, and it did, you were kind of kittened. That is why the traits are so popular, and necessary. Nowadays warr is much more solid ofcourse and you don’t have to depend on it as much but it’s still the same class and way of playing even if it’s not as hardcore.
I have been playing a lot of Engi and it is true that some builds are difficult just because unlike other classes War can land a series of hard hitting attacks which unless you’re really focused on mitigating power you can find yourself on very low health from just a couple of hits. I’m great vs normal levels of sustained damage though.
I run a FT and Elixirs build and while I can beat Wars 1v1 getting blindsided or getting hit by just 1 combo is dangerous. Your standard Soldier with Nades and Tool kit should do fine though.
Old Man Burr (War), Bad Hat Ben (Engi), Manly Manny Manson (Guard)
Options to avoid a shield / eviscerate combo:
-use elexir s
-use your second elexier s
-blind the warrior before
-chill the warrior before
-knock him with rifle
-dodge it
-tank it and heal up
zerk engineer has a tough time against zerk warriors that’s true but it’s not a 1v1 build to fight on nodes and has even problems against thiefs – so why even bothering
a soldier engineer on the other hand should win against zerk warrior easily
Warrior skills are so telegraphed and predictable that if you actually lose to them as an engineer, it’s definitely a l2p issue.
- Primordial Legend
Semi-active.
how the hell does an engi lose to a war in current times. Did i miss something rofl.
OP just wrote a list of L2P issues there.
I like it when people indirectly admit that they’re bad.
This is by far one of the funniest topics I’ve read in a while. Someone complaining about warriors….Made my day, dude !
kek. run X. use moa. stunlock. evade. stealth. blind. block.
if you cant land rifle 4 & use cc on stab that’s you playing badly. i have no issues vs warrior on any engineer build i play, provided im playing well. practice landing cc & damage chains.
currently a Boyfriend main :P
Waiting To ReRoll Mystic & Forget About Tyria
kek. run X. use moa. stunlock. evade. stealth. blind. block.
if you cant land rifle 4 & use cc on stab that’s you playing badly. i have no issues vs warrior on any engineer build i play, provided im playing well. practice landing cc & damage chains.
Honestly, in my build I only had rifle #4 and turret detonation as CC.
kek. run X. use moa. stunlock. evade. stealth. blind. block.
if you cant land rifle 4 & use cc on stab that’s you playing badly. i have no issues vs warrior on any engineer build i play, provided im playing well. practice landing cc & damage chains.
Honestly, in my build I only had rifle #4 and turret detonation as CC.
There’s your problem. “In my build”. Change your build. You will not have an easy time against everything in the game with a single build.
I love the 6/6/6/6/6 build. It is so kitten fun.
4x Necromancer, 3x Mesmer, 4x Guardian, 4x Thief, 4 Revenant
kek. run X. use moa. stunlock. evade. stealth. blind. block.
if you cant land rifle 4 & use cc on stab that’s you playing badly. i have no issues vs warrior on any engineer build i play, provided im playing well. practice landing cc & damage chains.
Honestly, in my build I only had rifle #4 and turret detonation as CC.
Honestly, in my warrior build, i have no endure pain, engi kills me all the time, thanks who ever made engi dev.
kek. run X. use moa. stunlock. evade. stealth. blind. block.
if you cant land rifle 4 & use cc on stab that’s you playing badly. i have no issues vs warrior on any engineer build i play, provided im playing well. practice landing cc & damage chains.
Honestly, in my build I only had rifle #4 and turret detonation as CC.
Honestly, in my warrior build, i have no endure pain, engi kills me all the time, thanks who ever made engi dev.
why you are not running endure pain at 25% is beyond me. double endure pain for stances, & single for shouts is the norm. defense doesn’t have a better trait in that slot, & builds without defense are rarely successful.
beating engi on warrior is easy. they have ~1 stunbreak & you have a lot of CC, it’s not hard to figure what to do; land CC to secure damage & disable the engineer.
currently a Boyfriend main :P
Waiting To ReRoll Mystic & Forget About Tyria
kek. run X. use moa. stunlock. evade. stealth. blind. block.
if you cant land rifle 4 & use cc on stab that’s you playing badly. i have no issues vs warrior on any engineer build i play, provided im playing well. practice landing cc & damage chains.
Honestly, in my build I only had rifle #4 and turret detonation as CC.
Honestly, in my warrior build, i have no endure pain, engi kills me all the time, thanks who ever made engi dev.
why you are not running endure pain at 25% is beyond me. double endure pain for stances, & single for shouts is the norm. defense doesn’t have a better trait in that slot, & builds without defense are rarely successful.
beating engi on warrior is easy. they have ~1 stunbreak & you have a lot of CC, it’s not hard to figure what to do; land CC to secure damage & disable the engineer.
Everyone seems to think that every engineer is now running a condi spec so they should be able to easily kill warriors
Even a power engi running rifle hgh spec won’t lose against a warrior unless it’s on point. Engineers can kite them so easily they can close both eyes and win.
- Primordial Legend
Semi-active.
Even a power engi running rifle hgh spec won’t lose against a warrior unless it’s on point. Engineers can kite them so easily they can close both eyes and win.
engi vs warrior is all about who can cain cc>damage better. engi has an advantage as they are ranged, but that’s about it tbh. warrior hammer combos kitten up engineers. a good warrior on skullcrack is awful to fight etc.
currently a Boyfriend main :P
Waiting To ReRoll Mystic & Forget About Tyria
kek. run X. use moa. stunlock. evade. stealth. blind. block.
if you cant land rifle 4 & use cc on stab that’s you playing badly. i have no issues vs warrior on any engineer build i play, provided im playing well. practice landing cc & damage chains.
Honestly, in my build I only had rifle #4 and turret detonation as CC.
Honestly, in my warrior build, i have no endure pain, engi kills me all the time, thanks who ever made engi dev.
why you are not running endure pain at 25% is beyond me. double endure pain for stances, & single for shouts is the norm. defense doesn’t have a better trait in that slot, & builds without defense are rarely successful.
beating engi on warrior is easy. they have ~1 stunbreak & you have a lot of CC, it’s not hard to figure what to do; land CC to secure damage & disable the engineer.
Tbh Knight’s amulet + armored attack gives you such a crapload of power you actually end up having more than when using mara amulet and the amount of armor you have is so big you don’t rly need the 2nd endure pain :O Granted with the 2nd endure pain you can carry 2v1’s all day but you dmg is somewhat lower :S
kek. run X. use moa. stunlock. evade. stealth. blind. block.
if you cant land rifle 4 & use cc on stab that’s you playing badly. i have no issues vs warrior on any engineer build i play, provided im playing well. practice landing cc & damage chains.
Honestly, in my build I only had rifle #4 and turret detonation as CC.
Honestly, in my warrior build, i have no endure pain, engi kills me all the time, thanks who ever made engi dev.
why you are not running endure pain at 25% is beyond me. double endure pain for stances, & single for shouts is the norm. defense doesn’t have a better trait in that slot, & builds without defense are rarely successful.
beating engi on warrior is easy. they have ~1 stunbreak & you have a lot of CC, it’s not hard to figure what to do; land CC to secure damage & disable the engineer.
Tbh Knight’s amulet + armored attack gives you such a crapload of power you actually end up having more than when using mara amulet and the amount of armor you have is so big you don’t rly need the 2nd endure pain :O Granted with the 2nd endure pain you can carry 2v1’s all day but you dmg is somewhat lower :S
if you choose to yolo, complain not about your yolo
that builds sounds gnarr btw, will give it a jam.
currently a Boyfriend main :P
Waiting To ReRoll Mystic & Forget About Tyria
As a warrior engi is the class I hate fighting the most. Maybe it’s because I don’t know them enough but I feel like it’s ridiculously hard to actually hit them with their perma swiftness, very low cd block stance, 20 billions cc, double invul and stealth
kek. run X. use moa. stunlock. evade. stealth. blind. block.
if you cant land rifle 4 & use cc on stab that’s you playing badly. i have no issues vs warrior on any engineer build i play, provided im playing well. practice landing cc & damage chains.
Honestly, in my build I only had rifle #4 and turret detonation as CC.
Honestly, in my warrior build, i have no endure pain, engi kills me all the time, thanks who ever made engi dev.
why you are not running endure pain at 25% is beyond me. double endure pain for stances, & single for shouts is the norm. defense doesn’t have a better trait in that slot, & builds without defense are rarely successful.
beating engi on warrior is easy. they have ~1 stunbreak & you have a lot of CC, it’s not hard to figure what to do; land CC to secure damage & disable the engineer.
Everyone seems to think that every engineer is now running a condi spec so they should be able to easily kill warriors
honestly, i beat warrior easy with soldier rifle.
kek. run X. use moa. stunlock. evade. stealth. blind. block.
if you cant land rifle 4 & use cc on stab that’s you playing badly. i have no issues vs warrior on any engineer build i play, provided im playing well. practice landing cc & damage chains.
Honestly, in my build I only had rifle #4 and turret detonation as CC.
Honestly, in my warrior build, i have no endure pain, engi kills me all the time, thanks who ever made engi dev.
why you are not running endure pain at 25% is beyond me. double endure pain for stances, & single for shouts is the norm. defense doesn’t have a better trait in that slot, & builds without defense are rarely successful.
beating engi on warrior is easy. they have ~1 stunbreak & you have a lot of CC, it’s not hard to figure what to do; land CC to secure damage & disable the engineer.
can’t you tell i was being ironic?
kek. run X. use moa. stunlock. evade. stealth. blind. block.
if you cant land rifle 4 & use cc on stab that’s you playing badly. i have no issues vs warrior on any engineer build i play, provided im playing well. practice landing cc & damage chains.
Honestly, in my build I only had rifle #4 and turret detonation as CC.
Honestly, in my warrior build, i have no endure pain, engi kills me all the time, thanks who ever made engi dev.
why you are not running endure pain at 25% is beyond me. double endure pain for stances, & single for shouts is the norm. defense doesn’t have a better trait in that slot, & builds without defense are rarely successful.
beating engi on warrior is easy. they have ~1 stunbreak & you have a lot of CC, it’s not hard to figure what to do; land CC to secure damage & disable the engineer.
Tbh Knight’s amulet + armored attack gives you such a crapload of power you actually end up having more than when using mara amulet and the amount of armor you have is so big you don’t rly need the 2nd endure pain :O Granted with the 2nd endure pain you can carry 2v1’s all day but you dmg is somewhat lower :S
if you choose to yolo, complain not about your yolo
that builds sounds gnarr btw, will give it a jam.
Yeah I tried running it with axe +shield/Longbow and its essentially 25might stacks all day and since we can apply a surprisingly good amount of burning we end up doing nice condi dmg thanks to how broken burn dmg is despite being a power build x) it’s really amazing vs power builds, that amount of armor is miraculous.
Frankly, last stand’s 40sec is op. 60sec would be good buff that isn’t op. Shield bash’s 2sec is also op. every body is pushed to use shield now, only CD time reduction was good buff.
My Stream : http://www.twitch.tv/eSportsKorea see me vs Tarcis, Chaith, Crysis and etc!
(edited by online.1278)
In pvp I play axe/mace with hammer and one of the most frustrating classes is an engineer with a FT. I might as well be throwing marshmallows at the dude.
Crystal Desert
2 second stun on shield as compared to the Mesmer’s instant cast signet that does 3 seconds?
Crystal Desert