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Posted by: Ath.2531

Ath.2531

Finally devised the ultimate Sword/warhorn + Rifle build which gives superior survivability and a nice damage kick.

Please keep in mind that this build is aimed for wvw/sPvP .

You can find the build here by copying and pasting the link in your browser:
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Gear: Full Exotic Rampager’s set (power, precision, condition damage)
with Superior Rune of Lyssa: http://www.gw2db.com/items/49978-superior-rune-of-lyssa

On sword: Superior Sigil of Agony(10% increased bleeding duration)
On warhorn: Superior Sigil of Earth(+60% Chance on Critical: Inflict Bleeding (5 Seconds)
On rifle: Superior Sigil of Rage(10% chance on crit to gain quickness for 3 sec)

This build focuses on survivability but don’t be fooled.

BIG Pros:
1) Nice condition damage from armor set + points in Arms and +70% condition duration (50% from Deep cuts + 10% from Sigil of Agony +10% from lyssa rune set)
2) Amazing tankiness with a lot of points invested in Defence and Tactics
3) Remove conditions like there’s no tomorrow
(2 from warhorn skills, 2 form heal, All from elite skill omg) – from rune set
4) Gain boons like there’s no day after tomorrow
(2 from warhorn skills if converted from condition, all boons from elite skill) – from rune set
5) Access to retaliation twice. One from Spiked armor + one from using elite skill
6) Great heals from investing in the Defence tree
7) Superior Sigil of Rage on rifle can pack a punch of bleeds when it pops quickness and it usually does because i have high crit% (65%ish)

Cons: Try it out and let me know

Good against:
1) Ability spammers where you can chain retaliation + pop endure pain.
2) Condition Builds. Your condition removal is insane.
3) High burst builds. save your endure pain until around 25% HP + pop it with heal + elite skill = almost full HP bar in a couple of seconds.

Bad against: Try it out and let me know

Let me know what you think and feel free to ask away. I will be using this build during the weekend a lot so i will giving you frequent updates.

Rock on

Commander Athrael ThunderBorn
GM of Crew of Misfits (CoM)
Piken Square, EU

(edited by Ath.2531)

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Posted by: EasymodeX.4062

EasymodeX.4062

A guildie of mine was curious and tested several sPvP amulets with Sword1 spam. In his tests (killing all 3 sPvP golems twice), Berserker performed about 15% better than Rampager (which performed about as well as Carrion).

These were tests with fully spec’d sword traits. Don’t think he had any Sigils though.

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Posted by: phaeris.7604

phaeris.7604

You know what, I will try this. I have decimated every single rifle warrior i’ve come across but I will give this a try to see if it really does have any use.

Btw, condition specced warriors just don’t seem to be any good because mainly everyone else but you can clear their conditions very well. Every other class has multiple condition removal abilities available almost constantly. The only class who doesn’t is actually the warrior….

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Posted by: phaeris.7604

phaeris.7604

Low toughness and low attack though…..

You really are relying on the bleeds to kill people…

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Posted by: Ath.2531

Ath.2531

@ EasymodeX
This build is definitely not an attack 1 spam. You can build adrenaline by rifle and a few sword attacks and bulls rush+ frenzy for an amazing bleed application. Make sure they have used at least a couple for their condition removal abilities before doing so.

@phaeris
Let me know how it works out for you. Keep in mind that this build is made to outlast your opponents in a group pvp setting and does amazing well in huge aoe zergs. In this build, timing your condition removal is crucial and i use signet of rage defensively. Yes, its a more defensive build but there’s nothing better than finishing off your opponent with >85% hp

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Posted by: EasymodeX.4062

EasymodeX.4062

This build is definitely not an attack 1 spam.

I wasn’t saying the build was 1111 spam. I was saying that the current combat mechanics and itemization are dubious for sustaining a build actually focused on Warrior condition damage, when a weapon+attack that is tuned for condition damage performs better with power gear.

Flurry would obviously lean way further to Carrion or Rabid stat spreads than 1111. However, it’s pretty questionable to build around 1 ability (nevermind 1 condition).

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Posted by: Ath.2531

Ath.2531

This build is definitely not an attack 1 spam.

I wasn’t saying the build was 1111 spam. I was saying that the current combat mechanics and itemization are dubious for sustaining a build actually focused on Warrior condition damage, when a weapon+attack that is tuned for condition damage performs better with power gear.

Flurry would obviously lean way further to Carrion or Rabid stat spreads than 1111. However, it’s pretty questionable to build around 1 ability (nevermind 1 condition).

I totally understand where you’re getting at. I keep rampager’s because it synergizes with my sigils below

Warhorn: Superior Sigil of Earth(+60% Chance on Critical: Inflict Bleeding (5 Seconds)
Rifle: Superior Sigil of Rage(10% chance on crit to gain quickness for 3 sec)

It makes flurry really nice and also adds some extra damage from crits

Apart from that, Carrion is absolutely a good choice with the setup as well

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Posted by: WhysoSully.4652

WhysoSully.4652

i use a very similar build. and you cant forget between charge and signet of rage you have unlimited swiftness.
i just had a few questions, i see you took last stand which activated balanced stance, but you did not take balanced stance. does this still activate the skill you dont have equipt?
also how do you get signet of rage to give you retaliation and remove all conditions?

great build tho some people look at the game and want the end all best spec and sometimes you just have to find a spec you enjoy playing and repair your armor like the rest of us lol.

im like you i play in mostly a group setting so i run rune of the pack to help spread some lovely boons and balance in some more power =)

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Posted by: Ath.2531

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@ WhysoSully.4652
Yes, it does activate. http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Last_Stand

As for your signet of Rage question, i use 6x Superior Rune of Lyssa: http://www.gw2db.com/items/49978-superior-rune-of-lyssa

The benefits of the 6 piece set are simply amazing. (but so is its cost: 1g20s on Anvil rock)

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Posted by: EasymodeX.4062

EasymodeX.4062

All servers share the trading post.

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Posted by: WhysoSully.4652

WhysoSully.4652

wow couldn’t get that to load before that is nice. Now what about if you get shouts become heals tactics (XII) (would that mean you get a random boon ontop of each shout), and more dmg for boons tactics (VI). might give you a boost, just an idea.

those runes are NICE! just wish they had more power. MORE POWER!!!!!!!

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Posted by: EasymodeX.4062

EasymodeX.4062

No; heal proc effects only work then you press “6” (although for some things like the Mesmer Mantra of Recovery, you can press it multiple times).

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Posted by: WhysoSully.4652

WhysoSully.4652

lame they need to word it differently because a healing skill = a skill that heals, if shouts heal, shouts : healing skill.

and what about people who get healing skill sets like engi and guardian. do all those skills then count as healing skills cause that wont be cool.

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Posted by: LameFox.6349

LameFox.6349

Are you sure the 60% to add bleeding on crit thing actually applies if it’s in the warhorn rather than what you hit with?

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Posted by: Ath.2531

Ath.2531

@LameFox: From what i have gathered as of now, it seems to be adding the bleed stacks since the sigil doesn’t say from which ability the bleed should be applied from. I will do further testing with and without the sigil and give you and update.

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Posted by: LameFox.6349

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I’ve meant to test it before tbh but I never got around to it. I was never sure if my trait or the sigil was responsible for extra bleeds on an attack.

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Posted by: Ljiona.9142

Ljiona.9142

I do this build with carrion amulets. The power makes my spiked armor hit harder and my normal shots do more. I still have around 30% crit so with fury I am at 50%. I find when I have stacks of bleeds built, the person is at half health from my direct damage. Even if they got out of range, they will die. I also use signet of stamina for the extra full condition removal instead of frenzy. I do not see a reason I would want to take 50% more damage. Also, I won’t always have signet of rage available sometimes because I popped it to gain swiftness when roaming. Finally, leg specialist is a must for me. Itmakes a huge difference because the 1 second immobilize lets you control the distance and it stops movement attacks like leap, rush, and heart-seeker. I use earth sigil on my rifle because I want to build bleeds at range. I use sigil of hydromancy and sigil of geomancy. The hydromancy is great because it snares and causes longer cooldowns on skills. The geomancy is AOE free bleeds.

Overall, I beat just about every class but one. Condition engineer with shield is the only problem. They seem to have more condition removal plus confusion is annoying. The rock to my scissors. I will take that any day though. I mean a balanced game means I should win 50% of the time. I am winning over 95% of the time.

The condition warrior is great because it destroys thieves, no problem. In fact, I am consistently killing groups of 2 thieves these days since they are the FotM. Just line up cripple/immobilize. You can get a stack of 10 bleeds ticking before then even get to you. Once they do, endure pain and flurry. They melt because of their 14K health. The only other build I like to fight more than a thief is a great-sword warrior. Imagine the nerd rage going on when someone switched to a thief and still gets rocked in pvp.

The best thing is this build is not flashy. You will never get a 2 second kill so no one will ever complain. It is an OP build that will never be considered OP. Please don’t play it.

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Posted by: Ath.2531

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@Ljiona

I updated the build to include leg specialist. It was an error from my part not to include it as i am currently using it.

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Posted by: Ljiona.9142

Ljiona.9142

Now remove the post

I don’t want people to learn this little secret.

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Posted by: crematorio.4795

crematorio.4795

Nice build I’m gonna check it out on my warrior!!!!

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Posted by: phaeris.7604

phaeris.7604

Sorry dude, tried it, nice leeching build for when you’;re standing outside a fight but the damage is just too low.

Good for killing people who don’t know what they’re doing though and in WvW zergs i imagine.

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Posted by: Ath.2531

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@phaeris

Understood. Would you further elaborate your experience with it? Also, have you used the correct rune/sigil setup as shown in the link? I actually find this build excellent for 1v1-1v2, 1vzerg but its made to outlast, not to outburst.

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Posted by: phaeris.7604

phaeris.7604

Yep, used that exact setup.

I give you it allows you a fair amount of survivability and kiting ability. I did fine tbh, but it just doesnt have that ‘oomph’ of other setups. I can’t terminate a thief when he’s about to down someone or do the double kill when someone is being rezzed.

I don’t know man, its nice!, but i think i need more raw damage with my survivability. I guess i found the pew pew of a rifle just not in your face enough for me. If I wanted that i’d have played a ranger.

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Posted by: Edelweiss.9815

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Everything works in WvW (80% of your enemies are underleveled and undergeared characters), but my guess is that you haven’t tried it in sPvP.

Terrible damage and survivability is mediocre at best. Condition removal isn’t even that good when you are forced to fight on Necro wells and Chaos Storm, condition are spammed at you, a couple condi removers won’t do. To be able to truly counter conditions on the Warrior in sPvP you need to take everything there is and you will still be more vulnerable to conditions than top-tier classes that can simply make all the condition applications miss/hit decoys or automatically remove them. On top of that you have low HP/armor. I’ve been running with 3100 armor and it’s still not enough to outlast Thieves or anyone really.

The damage is bad because it’s a condition build on a warrior. You can very slow stacking bleeds and nothing else. Sword builds (our best condi weapon) do more damage with Berserker’s rather than with Rampager’s/Rabid/Carrion.

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Posted by: Ath.2531

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@Edelweiss

I appreciate your comment but i see such flaws in your statements that show that you haven’t even tried the build or even payed close attention to it what so ever.

First off there is no such thing as top tier classes. I have fought and successfully defeated every class 1v1, and have also lost to them in wvw and sPvP. A skilled player will give me a hard time, no matter the class.

Second, please take a look at your statement: “Sword builds (our best condi weapon) do more damage with Berserker’s rather than with Rampager’s/Rabid/Carrion.”. Are you aware that Berserker’s set has no +condition damage on it what so ever? It is in fact the worst set to have as a condition warrior.

Thirdly, you mention that i have low HP/armor. Investing more into them will make my conditions extremely weak. What you are suggesting is in fact contradictory to your statement. You basically start by saying that my damage is terrible and suggest something which would make it even more terrible.

Additionally, let me say that i have successfully outlasted almost every single thief i have encountered.

Again, all comments are appreciated but please do your homework first

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Piken Square, EU

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