Guild Wars 2

I have already asked a similar question regarding condition builds, so I apologize for thread spam.

Which of the two builds I have made here, the first being a completely condition focused build

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJIQNAscTj8cUGaVIehwJiAjgCVqbMAy5zHwGk8q2CA-TVyCABAcIAU4BAki+gFOCAYp8To9H8R9nxUCO9JAIAACAzcmDdmDdmFCYxaA-w

and the second being more of a sustain/condition, or attrition build if you will,

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJIQNAscTjMdUGaVImdwJaAjgCdqfCrgpA48BsBJPA-TlyCABAcIAU4JAmQ4R9nU0HglyFuUSI0+DLpEaMlgTfCACAgAwMn5QnZZWKgFlGB-w

would you consider a better choice with WvW solo roaming in mind? I ask because to be honest, I don’t want to spend all the gold buying the gear needed only to find I don’t like it at all.
I’ve been told the first build is somewhat uncommon in it’s design, but I do a lot of solo roaming and main a conditionmancer, so although Warrior is very different, I feel it would work well with my playstyle. The second I was kind of fumbling with, but I thought with how awesome Healing Signet is even without a healing stat, it would be even better if I invested a bit in to said stat. I also solo roam on a trapper Ranger and know that you don’t need a whole lot of condition damage to be dangerous, anything 1.1k upwards is enough, really. So I thought using gear with healing as a main stat wouldn’t be hindering myself in any way.

Let me know what your thoughts are and please bear in mind I’m very new to Warrior, so mistakes may be prevalent. Thanks in advance !!

Well first off, bulls charge is useless on a condi build. Second, HS and adrenal health scale absolutely horrendously with healing power. For example with 1200 healing power HS only increases by ~50hps. If you do want to use apothecary, you absolutely need to use shouts heal as the GM in the tactics line. However, this really limits the rest of your traits since you need at least 2 in arms for deep cuts and 4 in defense for adrenal/cleansing ire. That leaves you with 2 points left to spend, meaning you can’t get fast hands, one if the best traits a warrior has to offer. On top of that, you won’t have stability or any of the stances a warrior is famous for, youll just have a bunch of mediocre utilities, especially for a condi build. In general id stay away from apothecary and just go full dire id you want a condi tank

Actually you don’t need 2 in arms. I personally go with 0/0/5/6/3 with fast hands with krait rune. I don’t even bother with any stands. Generally I use “for great justice” and “shake it off”, the 3rd utility I would slot whatever depends on what I am doing. I have found it impossible to die. It is great in roaming + zerg. Due to 30% boon duration in Tactics, I usually have at least 10 to 20 stack on might on myself. So burning itself ticks around 800. At my full burst rotation, my condition easily ticks for around 4k+ per sec.

But I would agree if you are not doing shout heal, there is zero point in apothecary.

Not getting a 50% dmg boost on your main dmg source for just 2 trait points is bad

Well actually I have test both extensively. I finally prefer fast hand better. Couple of reasons.

1. With Krait rune + food, your bleed lasts a long time already. For example pin down lasts 21 sec with these 2. In fact it last too long that it’s kind of pointless as it almost always gets cleansed before it last the full duration.

2. 3 in discipline, allows much better adrenaline generation. This is partly due to fast hand + versatile rage. I find that I can use full f1 burst a lot more often. Since sword f1 is our no 1 damage burst. I actually do a lot more damage this way. Of course fast hand also gives me more might, and other utilities for the on-swap sigils.

Well sure if you use krait runes

I very much appreciate the responses. As I’ve said, I’m still very new to Warrior so mistakes were likely to be prevalent. That’s why I wanted to ask though, and I’m glad I now know it’s not worth my time to purchase Apothecary. Would have been a huge waste | :
So, I think I will go with the first build which is full Dire armor with everything else Rabid. Lots of toughness, a good bit of vitality and tons of condition damage. It’s the exact same set up I run on my Necromancer and it serves me very well, I cannot see why it wouldn’t also apply to a Warrior.
Thanks again!

Here’s the condi build i use

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJAQNAT8cjMdU4ZVIOewJagkgC5onBnDgK4mVuFZBA-TFyCABAcBAoa/BA1N4p6PTcEASUJYWK/k4hAQKAIWDA-w
This build is tried and true. Practice might stacking off your bow. I commonly sit at 10 stacks (without SoR) thanks to arcing arrow and savage leap. 30 arms may seem weird at first, however it does get you that extra condi dmg, and furious is an amazing trait. You can literally spam your f1s left and right

I don’t run full Apothecary, I just run enough to have a boost in sustain. The rest is mixed Dire and rabid.