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Posted by: Sanny.1270

Sanny.1270

Not sure what to say, With the changes in the recent balance patch.. i decided to give AS/GS another go in my zerker set to take advantage of some of the changes and see the kind of dmg i can achieve. For wvw its over the top imo, i can consistently drop 17-20k+ Eviscerates while having as high kitten – 9k Non crits and still over 10k with my target having protection up. .

Pretty standard build after the patch,

30/0/0/10/30 – http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-s;4RK-O0g4F2-60;9;4T;09T19A;42;029AIBI7;2V19cV19cn-kKNL35;3kVq0u1zY4_Aa-3WJs1k;9;9;9;9;9;9;0V8-6h

It can also be run with MH S, although it takes longer to set up and harder to hit with, Final Thrust can hit roughly the same or possibly more then Evsic’s, iv’e gotten 17 – 19k hits but a lot lower success rate due to how the skill functions and how you have to set it up not to mention keeping yourself and your target below 50% while setting the ability up is a pita.

Note: this is a WvW video, inb4 the tpvp rabble,

Like/Sub/Discuss and Enjoy

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Posted by: dominik.9721

dominik.9721

Cant see your Videos in Germany

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Posted by: Warlord.9074

Warlord.9074

Its pretty good damage. The vid is pretty cool but your only telling half the story. I remember a few times seeing your run away I think it was you from my rifle warrior. Id get the jump on you from range and your so glassy that one of my single vollys destroyed your HP. Ive run a similar build with the burst mastery its pretty good, but Ive ran will all zerker gears and all ascended zerkers, and I havent hit numbers like that except on Robes, or glassy medium armor tagets. Never hit that high on a tanky guardian with protection or even a really tanky warrior with over 3k armor.

I want to say your build is very bad dude, not because i troll or flame, but your bigest weakness is getting CC and snared if that happens your going down especially if you get ganked. After seeing your build in the calcualter, im confident to say that the majority of the players you killed were bads, knowing that CC would of shut you down. You also are not even using mending so you have no condi removal whatsoever. If you actually ran into a good bunker ranger or anygood bunker Condi class i think you would drop pretty fast especially if they were ranged and snared you and droped a ton of condis on you. You dont even have stabilty, so if you get knoced down in a good hammer chain or anything like that your dead. You got one stun breaker, and a shield. Maybe you can break the stun then block then shild bash and evescerate and hope that kills the enemy. But shield bash only works against bad players. Most people that are smart trait for an automatic stability or somthing if they get stunned.

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Posted by: Veritas.6071

Veritas.6071

Its pretty good damage. The vid is pretty cool but your only telling half the story. I remember a few times seeing your run away I think it was you from my rifle warrior. Id get the jump on you from range and your so glassy that one of my single vollys destroyed your HP. Ive run a similar build with the burst mastery its pretty good, but Ive ran will all zerker gears and all ascended zerkers, and I havent hit numbers like that except on Robes, or glassy medium armor tagets. Never hit that high on a tanky guardian with protection or even a really tanky warrior with over 3k armor.

I want to say your build is very bad dude, not because i troll or flame, but your bigest weakness is getting CC and snared if that happens your going down especially if you get ganked. After seeing your build in the calcualter, im confident to say that the majority of the players you killed were bads, knowing that CC would of shut you down. You also are not even using mending so you have no condi removal whatsoever. If you actually ran into a good bunker ranger or anygood bunker Condi class i think you would drop pretty fast especially if they were ranged and snared you and droped a ton of condis on you. You dont even have stabilty, so if you get knoced down in a good hammer chain or anything like that your dead. You got one stun breaker, and a shield. Maybe you can break the stun then block then shild bash and evescerate and hope that kills the enemy. But shield bash only works against bad players. Most people that are smart trait for an automatic stability or somthing if they get stunned.

I think it’s important to remember that no build walks into every fight at an advantage. We could “what if” every build on every class because they all have a counter. If they don’t, they get adjusted because counters are part of balance. Otherwise, there is no build variety.

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Posted by: Israel.7056

Israel.7056

Don’t listen to the haters, this video is awesome. I laughed out loud every time someone got eviscerated.

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Posted by: Boulderbolg.3460

Boulderbolg.3460

One thing you have to remember about Sanny is that he is good at knowing when other classes are going for a stun on him. You’ll notice his usage of dodge and shield block. He relies on being able to make the move first against an opponent and avoiding theirs.

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Posted by: killahmayne.9518

killahmayne.9518

Cool vid but at the same time in my opinion it is kind of boring and stale to watch these kind of videos of full zerk warriors, and it really does give the wrong impression.

With full zerk builds, the fight will end in 10 seconds, with either you dropping a 20K eviscerate or you dropping on the floor or more than likely resetting the fight because wind blew at you from the wrong direction. Not saying you reset fights and run, but I have met many full zerk warriors in WvW where as soon as I land a pindown from Longbow they just run away, comeback when their HP is full and try to fight me again. I personally find this highly annoying, scumbag-ish and a waste of my time.

Not trying to hate, that is the nature of a full zerk warrior and that is how they need to play to survive. But I personally find it boring to play or watch because it is the build that does the work. A 5 second fight doesn’t teach much in the ways of timing dodges, gauging enemy cooldowns, comboing, knowing when to use certain skills as much as a 2 or 3 minute fight does, or as much as a build that isn’t a two-trick pony.

It doesn’t do much justice for players who watch your videos who perhaps want to learn something. All they get from it is "omg wow 20K Eviscerates, I want to be cool just like that", empowering a generation full zerk warrior trash who think they are pro just because they one shot somebody. But when it comes to sPvP, when they actually fight players who know what they are doing, they get trashed and inspire more QQ on the forums.

Doing alot of custom arena PvP, 1v1 and sPvP has taught me a lot of things about WvW and about certain builds.

That this build for the most part is highly efficient at trashing newbies in WvW who either: do not pack any stability, are undergeared if not underlevelled, are not paying attention to their surroundings, are running away from you, have the slowest reaction times imaginable or do not have a lot of armor. It relies so heavily on getting the preemptive strike.

In PvP, while there are newbies, more people than not know the game and do not suffer from the deficiencies that can make a full zerker build in WvW look unstoppable and godlike. I realized that about a few months ago. The competition is 5 times of that in WvW for the most part. There is no such thing as "resetting fights" or "running across the map" or "preemptive strikes" in 1v1/sPvP matchups which are at many times needed for a build such as yours.

Now you probably made this video for entertainment purposes, but you might want to consider in the future how misleading it can be to people watching it as they do not see the other side of things.

It would be cool if you went into some of these custom duel arenas and record some 1v1s using w/e build you want. Now I realize that you won’t be able to beat every class/build (mesmers particularly and some skilled engies/necros), but it would be cool to see how you handle situations that are a little bit more balanced, and see whether the builds you come up with are effective. It has taught me a lot it really has.

again no hate intended.

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Posted by: Bogy.2953

Bogy.2953

why are you using zerker power if the goal is to dump all your adren on evis as soon as you get it? also no stab and hardly any condi removal seems awfull

while its cool to see big evis numbers when you can land it on full zerker light/med targets that are bad im pretty sure you can beat bads with any setup

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Posted by: ChaiTea.1256

ChaiTea.1256

I think thakittens important to note that this build is for the lolz. For doing more of a serious 1v1 where you intend to have an engaging fight, then a more defensive build would be used, but this is just more like, what kind of numbers can we see with the patch change.

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Posted by: Luske.3297

Luske.3297

I enjoyed your video Second To God and to everyone saying its a bad spec. He did write
" i decided to give AS/GS another go in my zerker set to take advantage of some of the changes and see the kind of dmg i can achieve"
You cant have TOP dmg and lots of utilities at the same time.

PS: It would be bad play if a GS user didnt use his mobility when a longbow user gets the drop on him. People pick the GS for the mobility not 100B.

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Posted by: Zeki.7829

Zeki.7829

Been waiting for your next vid sanny and once again i am not disappointed bit left of center with the new build but man that’s some serious damage..expect axe nerf soon? :P

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Posted by: Kratos.6293

Kratos.6293

and people complain about 12k backstabs…

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Posted by: PapZeeHurl.6078

PapZeeHurl.6078

and people complain about 12k backstabs…

They do it in stealth.

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Posted by: Israel.7056

Israel.7056

why are you using zerker power if the goal is to dump all your adren on evis as soon as you get it?

Is this a serious question?

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Posted by: Turbo Whale.1738

Turbo Whale.1738

Not trying to hate, that is the nature of a full zerk warrior and that is how they need to play to survive. But I personally find it boring to play or watch because it is the build that does the work. A 5 second fight doesn’t teach much in the ways of timing dodges, gauging enemy cooldowns, comboing, knowing when to use certain skills as much as a 2 or 3 minute fight does, or as much as a build that isn’t a two-trick pony.

On the contrary I find super defensive fights to be extremely boring and low skilled in general. 2 defensive specs fighting have an incredible amount of room for error. Mistakes mean little when you can sit there with enough defense to tank multiple enemies and when you have 3 stun breaks, unlimited protection and retaliation, etc.

*EDIT:

In reality there is no proper way to 1v1. Defensive 1v1 fights gauge a different set of PvP skills than Offensive 1v1 fights do. For example, defensive fights gauge the ability to be aware of cooldowns and planning ahead, while offensive fights gauge the ability to react quickly under extremely heavy pressure. Saying that glassy builds take no skill and that defensive builds do is a silly statement as they are 2 completely different ways to play.

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Posted by: Turbo Whale.1738

Turbo Whale.1738

why are you using zerker power if the goal is to dump all your adren on evis as soon as you get it? also no stab and hardly any condi removal seems awfull

while its cool to see big evis numbers when you can land it on full zerker light/med targets that are bad im pretty sure you can beat bads with any setup

He uses BP because the 15% damage boost counts toward your eviscerate also

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Posted by: Boulderbolg.3460

Boulderbolg.3460

I enjoyed your video Second To God and to everyone saying its a bad spec. He did write
" i decided to give AS/GS another go in my zerker set to take advantage of some of the changes and see the kind of dmg i can achieve"
You cant have TOP dmg and lots of utilities at the same time.

PS: It would be bad play if a GS user didnt use his mobility when a longbow user gets the drop on him. People pick the GS for the mobility not 100B.

At least someone gets it. The video was to experiment with damage, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s achieved the highest damage bursts in the game.

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Posted by: Bogy.2953

Bogy.2953

why are you using zerker power if the goal is to dump all your adren on evis as soon as you get it?

Is this a serious question?

yes , you use evis as soon as possible so i would think as soon as you use it adren drops and the dmng boost goes away, guess you still get the boost for the evis

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Posted by: Sorrow.7384

Sorrow.7384

Cant see your Videos in Germany

https://proxtube.com/ Kampf GEMA mein Freund!

Also LOL at the guys picking apart a build that was made to output high damage numbers.

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Posted by: Sanny.1270

Sanny.1270

The video was done mostly to see what i could hit for with eviscerate’s, ( could be more if i took DoE, ) although that said its not the most optimal zerker build if you want to run glass in a group but you can switch around the utilities for more stun breaks/stability/ condi removal ecct. My view of the way the warrior currently is its either be dps, or be useless, Even when i run hammer/X( 99% of the time GS) in a 5 man, i still use all zerker gear the only thing that changes is a runeset/food and build obvi.

@ warlord and Kill, no hate or trolling taken, everyone is entitled to post what ever their view is, i’ll try and reply to some of your points.

yes its glass, has little condi removal aside from imoba’s on movement or heal, bunker heavy condie builds are hard fights, most common ones being necros/engies, if i can’t pressure then enough with in the first few seconds of a fight and put them on the defensive i have to disengage/reengage, same with any fights may it be v1, 2v1, 3v1 ect, anyone who roams does the same, you want to have the advantage in a fight, reset if not ect. as annoying/frustrating it can be , weather its being done to you or you the opposition. it would be poor play not to do so.

CC heavy builds most common being guards or warrior between EP, D/R , SB ect it should be enough to avoid the CC being tossed around with out stability. it does happen if you make a mistake and eat a full CC rotation it has the possibility to stun lock you down, you will die at times, its unavoidable. What my experience regardless of the build you run on a warrior, you don’t have room for a lot of error, and if your running glass, you make a mistake the fight becomes incredibility harder.

As for the S/T pvp vs WvW skill argument its a moot point. both are filled with bad or less the average players, i myself know a lot of skilled players that hate the fact Tpvp is about pve capping points to “win” much like wvw is, although switched to wvw bc its the next best thing to a TDM style of play while all the zergers run around pve doors to “win”.

i could go into duel rooms and make a video of it, but it will render the same result, you beat X or Y class only because said player is worthless and so on, not to mention the warrior is at an even worse state in structured pvp due to the same fundamental class flaws on top of the heavy dmg reduction on DD due to the stat cap.

again it is a montage, high light, pvp video, witch ever you prefer to call it, you just have to take it for what it is. like any other pvp video in any game, not just gw2.

myself personally id love to run set 5 v 5’s, duels, 2v2’s 3v3’s ect, or some forum of competitive play in wvw ( not talking about the 30 v 30 1 spam GvG fights pretty comical people say that takes skill…) but this game just doesn’t have the community for it, wvw or structured its to casual from the player base to class complexity imo.

Myself like many others have quit or are just waiting around for something better to come along that has that competitiveness fueled by hate and drive to constantly improve . just dons’t happen when you can pick any class and be good at it with in a few days of play time.

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Posted by: XII.9401

XII.9401

Yep with the lack of boon nerf if you’re running glassy and your against a bunker>>run. All it takes is one keyboard face roll from a tanky guardian.

I would prefer it if you went back and edited sound FX with each EVis like: BAM! ShABAMBAM! Ooooh BaBy with a moan! etc.

For lacking that, your vid gets a 9/10. Sorry.

How hard were you hitting against non-GC , btw?

Blood sigil stacking?

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Posted by: Player Character.9467

Player Character.9467

Running into wvw with those pve max dps builds does have 1 purpose tho. Pop endure and eviscerate those glass backstabbers.

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Posted by: ArtemisEntreri.4138

ArtemisEntreri.4138

Great display of damage and fights. Glad I am on your side in WvW!

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Posted by: Turbo Whale.1738

Turbo Whale.1738

So i put on a PVT amulet and ran this build in sPvP but with a sigil of intelligence (which guarantees a crit on every eviscerate as long as you switch weapon from gs to axe then unleash) on the axe and I had interesting results. The best I got in about 10 minutes of playing was a 13.3k eviscerate on a mesmer. I had 1560 toughness and 1660 vitality. And this was in sPvP. Idk what to think of it. Obviously it’s not really a “build” but I just found it kinda neat. Evidence below:

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Posted by: Skavian.9863

Skavian.9863

What kind of gear is required to reach that level of damage? I really want to run a high risk/reward build like this but I can’t seem to come close to those numbers.

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Posted by: Sanny.1270

Sanny.1270

Yep with the lack of boon nerf if you’re running glassy and your against a bunker>>run. All it takes is one keyboard face roll from a tanky guardian.

I would prefer it if you went back and edited sound FX with each EVis like: BAM! ShABAMBAM! Ooooh BaBy with a moan! etc.

For lacking that, your vid gets a 9/10. Sorry.

How hard were you hitting against non-GC , btw?

Blood sigil stacking?

lmao i should have, yeah the stacks are blood stacks and the more defensive built players were around the 9 – 13k range.

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Posted by: Sanny.1270

Sanny.1270

What kind of gear is required to reach that level of damage? I really want to run a high risk/reward build like this but I can’t seem to come close to those numbers.

just running full zerker gear with the divinity rune set/blood lust stacks.

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