Guild Wars 2

Question: Does a full set Lyssa rune, (Use of elite skill removes all conditions and grants boons) apply to Warbanner?
Meaning, if I were to use a full Lyssa set, and I drop my Warbanner, would it remove all conditions on an AoE scale? Or would it only apply to me?

I know Warbanners itself have stability, but I’m wondering if it would remove ALL conditions for any ally that gets hit with the Warbanner AoE. Also, pairing it with a tactics banner would also mean heals would trigger the “When you use a healing skill you gain a random boon for 10 seconds. (10 sec CD)” correct?

Just a thought, let’s say an elementalist drops water AoE heals, and I drop my banner as a combo, and that blast results in heals, would it also give off boons to allies that were healed in that AoE? It might sound stupid but it would make stacking might a lot easier than having to look out for specific times to stack might AoE.

This all came up as an idea after I wondered why there weren’t any condition removing banners.. (Although stability is great, condition removal would only make it THAT much better) Also, I understand that Guardians are the condition removal specialists. So please don’t post saying “this is dumb if you wantz condition removalz and boonz play guardianz”. I’m just curious to find out how far a banner warrior’s abilities can go when paired with certain runes.

This is in terms of WvW or even PvE.

Also, does the Reflecting Missiles trait still work with mace blocks?

1) Lyssa is just you. Even if you’re some kind of AoE buffing spec (like my Thief who uses Lyssa and AoE spreads Basilisk Venom), it will still only help you. The Lyssa benefits trigger whenever you’ve finished casting your Elite. For a Warbanner, it will kick in instantly since it’s not a channeled attack.

2) The random boon from Lyssa is only for yourself. However the Banner’s AoE stability (which is an inherent function of the Banner skill) would still help everyone within range.

3) Yes, the Blast trigger from the Warbanner would cause an AoE heal. However as stated in #2, people would not get the Lyssa rune benefit (including yourself). The random boon proc only activates when you use a Skill #6 ability and it has a cool down timer (which would apply if you were an Engineer and constantly switched into their healing weapon kit).

4) I do agree that Banners have gotten the short end of the deal. With people running Shout powers and Superior Rune of the Soldier for AoE condition removal, it makes you wonder about the value of Banners. Yet I’m still seeing people run them for dps farming situations and for longer boss fights against mobs like the dragons, so the Banners still do have their place. It’s just not in the condition removal department.

5) As for the Mace question, I’m not sure.

Thanks for the response!

It would make banners extremely fun to use if some of these things were added as new features. Considering how long the cooldown for Warbanner is. (I wouldn’t want a lower cooldown because the fact that it revives people is great as it is) Also considering how much karma or gold would be needed for a full Lyssa set, Anet should consider this. (It may not seem like much for veterans, but this would allow newer banner warriors to play a fun role that not many seem to embrace.) You make a great point with the Superior Rune of the Soldier. Why wouldn’t they add at least some sort of condition removal for banners? It doesn’t have to remove ALL conditions but even one or two would make banner warriors feel effective and more enjoyable. I understand though that if this were to happen there would be a large number of guardians with their own opinions about it. Also considering the buff banners have received, this might be asking for too much. It would however, be extremely awesome.

So here’s my suggestion, allow Warbanners to remove at least 1 condition on an AoE scale when summoned. Revive, 5 stacks of might, and 1 AoE condition removal would make somewhat of a difference. Plus the cooldown on the skill would keep it balanced.

TheHarlemShake.2130:

Also, does the Reflecting Missiles trait still work with mace blocks?

yes

also if a guardian put aegis on you and you are hit by projectile, it will be reflected, yes its that good trait.