Guild Wars 2

I like these changes.

Overall it looks a lot better already =D

“Smash Brawler: Changed functionality of this trait. This trait now reduces the recharge of berserk mode and primal burst skills by 33%.”

^ That’s … reaaaaalllly niiiice, changes everything

The changes look great for the most part, a couple seem a bit odd (hammer with immob? less burning on torch?) but we’ll see in bw3. Cant wait.

Thank you for fixing the Berserk Transition.

The traits I will have to mess around with for the next beta, but I see more potential with now that Headbutt isn’t giving Warriors ‘Concussions’

Torch changes I can get around, I like that you increased the range to assist with landing the cripple on a fleeing foe.

Burst changes are really interesting though.

Arcing Divide is comparable to its non-berserk Slice, but 450 range is triple the range of 150 that Slice has, which anyone even remotely close to the Warrior will get cleaved down.

Decapitate is a good change, a coned Eviscerate with slightly toned down damage could make for some interesting play (Axe Mainhand has always been on and off competitive).

Flaming Flurry was a needed buff.

Gun Flame…got changed to a moving Killshot that no longer hits around 20+ people. What’s NICE about this change is a moving Killshot is probably a good compromise on the overall explosive impact that a single rogue Gun Flame could do before. Instead, the Killshot can be channeled while moving to maximize at least where you shot goes through, and not into a Wall of Reflection. I will like this change more than the previous incarnation.

Mmm, I can see where Hammer Primal Burst now would fall into play, shifting between a hard CC that gets countered by Stability or a hard CC that gets countered by cleanses or Resistance. It’s a nice choice, but I will miss the displacement slightly.

Nice QoL change for Scorched, however I will still have to test how well it burns compared to Combustive.

Skull Grinder was probably applying too many layers of conditions, this was an acceptable change.

Rage Skills hmm…

Blood Reckoning will require a full retest once again, however a passive 25% crit chance uptime during its duration will be fun to mess around with in the stats department.

Shattering Blow, unless if I am mistaken, still might suffer from a reflect that lasts too short for rooting in place. I will really have to put it through the ringer.

Leap got buffed. 250% damage increase with a cripple? Alright, you got my attention!

Overall, you did get our feedback with a couple of clunky and funny bugs, and I will probably have a more entertaining time lining up a mobile Killshot with Michael Bay.

I like the new changes overall, but personally I’d like two main things

1) Hammer burst, if it can only hit each target once, why not make it hit a flat area like earthshaker? especially in spvp that would make a huge difference. Also, it should at least be 2s immobilize to match the 2s stun of earthshaker.

2) Dead or Alive, as I’ve yet to see the new numbers, this is slightly moot. I’d prefer promoting more build synergy by having it inherit the benefits from Vengeful Return, but that might be too strong of a heal if it heals a decent amount already.

But again, overall, great changes.

I noticed that the rage skills sundering leap and headbutt do not remove immob when traited with warrior sprint.

Great changes!

Shattering Blow: Increased area of initial projectile reflection zone by 100%. Increased radius of secondary reflection zone by 33%.
I hope this means you punch a bigger rock. awesome.
Flames of War would be cool if it ended in a short smoke field, giving warrior access to a short blind/stealth combo.

Oh god.. so brutal..! Can’t wait to try the berserk again!
Though I’m not a fan of a constant Fire theme on the ’zerker spec. but those sweet sweet combos and references/Primal Bursts, its just so difficult to ignore haha.

Robert Gee.9246:

• Sundering Leap: Now also inflicts cripple for 5 seconds on targets hit. Increased damage by 250%.

Okay… Why exactly would I ever take On My Mark (Which isn’t really used that much to begin with, since it’s single-target) over Sundering Leap again? This skill is blatantly far stronger at doing the same thing another skill does, It’s damage, AoE Vuln/Cripple, is a Leap Finisher, and gives you 5 Adrenaline by default. Meanwhile On My Mark inflicts the same stacks of Vuln (2s longer, whoo!) with kitten longer CD, and that’s it. I like the new Sundering Leap, don’t get me wrong, but it doesn’t seem like it should be objectively better than another skill when that other skill only does ONE thing to begin with.

these changes are GREAT. I still think we may need a minor buff to mace/sword since it still seems we need to use Sinister/rabid/rampager to get the real benefit of zerker, but man, this looks really really good.

Also, With GS being the one weapon with no condi, it seems it could be possible to take berserker and not go condi. Actually now that I think about it, Axe has no burning also… GS Axe/x can still be totally viable in full Zerker gear…. hmmmmm

I like a lot of the changes. I still feel Sundering Leap shouldn’t be ground targeted but I guess that’s just me. I also don’t feel Scorched Earth is ever going to be used over Combustive shot with mere change to it’s shape but I’ll wait and see. There may be something weird about the rectangles.

Great fixes, although I think you missed a big one that everyone was complaining about. It’s the berserker icon being behind the F1 skill, it’s hard to see the cooldown of the skill and people offten, while they have full adrenaline, press the F1 ability instead of the berserker mode because it’s on top of it. Hopefully we’ll be able to get something like thief has, would be much easier!

No 5 target limit on Gun Flame explosion? Not even damage reduction?
This primal burst is still WAY more powerful then its normal burst.

Good changes!!

Can you pls take a look at burst mastery/adrenal health? They are both bugged in berserkmode.

“Arcing Sear: This skill has been replaced with Arc Divider. Arc Divider creates a 450 range shockwave that damages up to 5 foes it hits. This skill deals 75% more damage to foes below 50% health.

Gun Flame: Now only explodes on the first target hit. This skill now allows player movement during casting."

This is just like dream that came true. Yay

Kamui.3150:

Robert Gee.9246:

• Sundering Leap: Now also inflicts cripple for 5 seconds on targets hit. Increased damage by 250%.

Okay… Why exactly would I ever take On My Mark (Which isn’t really used that much to begin with, since it’s single-target) over Sundering Leap again? This skill is blatantly far stronger at doing the same thing another skill does, It’s damage, AoE Vuln/Cripple, is a Leap Finisher, and gives you 5 Adrenaline by default. Meanwhile On My Mark inflicts the same stacks of Vuln (2s longer, whoo!) with kitten longer CD, and that’s it. I like the new Sundering Leap, don’t get me wrong, but it doesn’t seem like it should be objectively better than another skill when that other skill only does ONE thing to begin with.

Because sometimes you don’t want to be in melee?

I was wondering if you’d given any thought to make/change Peak Performance so it affects the Rage skills? As of now, it is a mostly dead trait that could really use some love and would have great synergy with the Berserker specialisation.

PvE condi warrior: buffed torch 4 slightly, nerfed torch 5 heavily. Buffed primal burst on sword heavily. Will run numbers later but seems like a pretty nice net gain.

PvE Direct damage warrior: still no compelling reason to run Berserker instead of Arms even with the attack speed increase.

Can I just point this out again -

“Gun Flame: Now only explodes on the first target hit. This skill now allows player movement during casting.”

I will miss the exploding on ever target it hit if it pierced, but moving while casting! Speaking WvW…so much YES!

Rupturing smash will hit like a train now lol.

I like it!!!

Thanks Mr. Gee

serenity.4712:

Great fixes, although I think you missed a big one that everyone was complaining about. It’s the berserker icon being behind the F1 skill, it’s hard to see the cooldown of the skill and people offten, while they have full adrenaline, press the F1 ability instead of the berserker mode because it’s on top of it. Hopefully we’ll be able to get something like thief has, would be much easier!

Yeah that was the one big thing I was wondering too.

Smash Brawler: Changed functionality of this trait. This trait now reduces the recharge of berserk mode and primal burst skills by 33%.—
YES

Arcing Sear: This skill has been replaced with Arc Divider. Arc Divider creates a 450 range shockwave that damages up to 5 foes it hits. This skill deals 75% more damage to foes below 50% health.—-
YES

Overall, looks very promising and looks like it is worthy of the name “berserker” but we shall see when the time comes shall we not?

So I posted my two-cents on berzerker last week, but one idea I’ve had since then:

Berzerk has a fixed duration, but can only be used once you’ve built up enough adrenaline. I’d love to actually see “berzerk” act almost like a life-force pool, where you can extend the duration you are berzerk by building more adrenaline. I just love the idea that I’m berzerk, and the more I attack the more frenzied I become.
~Primal burst skills would instead use 60% of your adrenaline.
~Attacks would give you like 5% of your adrenaline, but berzerk costs 10% of your adrenaline per second.
~Prevents weapon swapping.

I think this would also really increase the reward for PvE warriors into a more risk/reward scenario: sure you’ll be doing more damage, critically hitting more often, and attacking faster, but you’ll also be much more fragile and more limited in your options once you’ve gone full berzerk.

Drakabane.8631:

So I posted my two-cents on berzerker last week, but one idea I’ve had since then:

Berzerk has a fixed duration, but can only be used once you’ve built up enough adrenaline. I’d love to actually see “berzerk” act almost like a life-force pool, where you can extend the duration you are berzerk by building more adrenaline. I just love the idea that I’m berzerk, and the more I attack the more frenzied I become.
~Primal burst skills would instead use 60% of your adrenaline.
~Attacks would give you like 5% of your adrenaline, but berzerk costs 10% of your adrenaline per second.
~Prevents weapon swapping.

I think this would also really increase the reward for PvE warriors into a more risk/reward scenario: sure you’ll be doing more damage, critically hitting more often, and attacking faster, but you’ll also be much more fragile and more limited in your options once you’ve gone full berzerk.

Interesting line of thought…I’d be willing to live through tweaks for this…:) It would be interesting to hear Mr. Gee’s thoughts on this.

I had noticed during BWE2 that the King of Fires grandmaster trait would take (at least as shown on the skills tool tip) the burn durations from 2 to 2 and 1/2 seconds while in Verdant Brink, and from 2 to 3 and 1/2 seconds while in the Cursed Shores.

I have no idea if anyone else reported this, but reading this thread just made me remember that.

Everything that needed to be fixed in my opinion, was.

I love these changes.

Some good changes…but we still have the elephant in the room, Fast Hands.

Depending on what you want to run, your build is almost decided for you. As things are now I could see something like “this”: being decent (depends on how good the heal is now and if torch + Brawler’s is good enough removal). However, with baseline FH I could get way better synergy from this setup. Not so sure on the LB use, it’ll depend on the new P-Burst.

This would help Power too. ATM I could see running something like this, but with baseline Fast Hands I could do something way more interesting like this. This has some REALLY cool synergy with Rousing Resilience. It gives the Warrior sustain outside of Endure Pain, which many Warriors have wanted for a while. Although, I think atm RR doesn’t activate when you go Berserk while using Savage instinct.

Both of the alternate builds lose the mobility of Warrior’s Sprint, but they gain something new that is much more interesting and synergistic.

Other thoughts:

Sundering leap seems nice now, but I still think adding the ability to leap onto some ledges in PvP would give it very valuable utility.

I get the idea behind Shattering Blow, but even with these changes it just seems lackluster. If I could use it on the move (I know why you can’t currently) OR if I was rooted longer but the reflect was 360 degrees and lasted as long as the cast, I could see using it in one of my builds.

The greatsword primal burst change sounds pretty good. I also like the changes to the axe and hammer primal bursts. Good to see some power-based options that make Berserker worth taking on a non-condi warrior.

A shame about the Gunflame nerf, but then again, it’s nice that it doesn’t root during cast anymore.

•"Rupturing Smash: Instead of knockback this skill now causes 1 second of immobilize on hit. This skill can no longer hit the same target twice. Increased damage by 100%".

This change was a mistake the knockback was Very nice, One of the only reasons I was looking forward to hammer and now it has no CC just an immobilize a 1 second immobilize!!!!. this hurts the weapon trait and the weapons use for cc

we can trait for immobilize already. Rupturing blow was useful for area control and spacing, offence and defense, taking a rick leaping into an area just to immobilize is weak!! the damage was fine

Please revert the change

WhiteOil.1836:

•"Rupturing Smash: Instead of knockback this skill now causes 1 second of immobilize on hit. This skill can no longer hit the same target twice. Increased damage by 100%".

This change was a mistake the knockback was Very nice, One of the only reasons I was looking forward to hammer and now it has no CC just an immobilize a 1 second immobilize!!!!. this hurts the weapon trait and the weapons use for cc

we can trait for immobilize already. Rupturing blow was useful for area control and spacing, offence and defense, taking a rick leaping into an area just to immobilize is weak!! the damage was fine

Please revert the change

No offense, but not a single warrior I know found the knockback to be useful, be it in WvW, PvP or PvE. All it does is displacing enemies which you don’t want in most of scenarios. The immobilize is much more useful, despite its short duration.

I dont understand why fast hands isnt baseline honestly. Before the J23rd patch I Didnt are, but seeing the immense amount of QoL changes Mesmer got, and on to of that the power of the chronomancer, I just… I Dont get it

Kraljevo.2801:

WhiteOil.1836:

•"Rupturing Smash: Instead of knockback this skill now causes 1 second of immobilize on hit. This skill can no longer hit the same target twice. Increased damage by 100%".

This change was a mistake the knockback was Very nice, One of the only reasons I was looking forward to hammer and now it has no CC just an immobilize a 1 second immobilize!!!!. this hurts the weapon trait and the weapons use for cc

we can trait for immobilize already. Rupturing blow was useful for area control and spacing, offence and defense, taking a rick leaping into an area just to immobilize is weak!! the damage was fine

Please revert the change

No offense, but not a single warrior I know found the knockback to be useful, be it in WvW, PvP or PvE. All it does is displacing enemies which you don’t want in most of scenarios. The immobilize is much more useful, despite its short duration.

I disagree, the immobilize doesn’t not synergize with the hammer trait
put on leg specialist and you get your 1s immobilize anyway
lots of skills now clear immobilize anyway
its weak

on top of that it hit multiple times this new version hits once the
1 crit of rupturing smash did about 800dmg near zerk
multiple crits hit from 2.4k to 3.2k

read what I posted more carefully is area control and spacing better? or is a 1s immobilize?

WhiteOil.1836:

Kraljevo.2801:

WhiteOil.1836:

•"Rupturing Smash: Instead of knockback this skill now causes 1 second of immobilize on hit. This skill can no longer hit the same target twice. Increased damage by 100%".

This change was a mistake the knockback was Very nice, One of the only reasons I was looking forward to hammer and now it has no CC just an immobilize a 1 second immobilize!!!!. this hurts the weapon trait and the weapons use for cc

we can trait for immobilize already. Rupturing blow was useful for area control and spacing, offence and defense, taking a rick leaping into an area just to immobilize is weak!! the damage was fine

Please revert the change

No offense, but not a single warrior I know found the knockback to be useful, be it in WvW, PvP or PvE. All it does is displacing enemies which you don’t want in most of scenarios. The immobilize is much more useful, despite its short duration.

I disagree, the immobilize doesn’t not synergize with the hammer trait
put on leg specialist and you get your 1s immobilize anyway
lots of skills now clear immobilize anyway
its weak

on top of that it hit multiple times this new version hits once the
1 crit of rupturing smash did about 800dmg near zerk
multiple crits hit from 2.4k to 3.2k

read what I posted more carefully is area control and spacing better? or is a 1s immobilize?

The change does give hammer the option of being able to deal damage when the target has Stability. It gives you the ability to go F1 → 2 → 3 which is decent damage for a weapon that is normally dependent on CC chains to do damage.

Disappointed that Berserker doesn’t offer enough to a dungeon/raid power build to displace Arms as a trait-line. Gotta run Strength for Forceful Greatsword, gotta run Tactics for Phalanx Strength, just leaves one trait line to play with. Even though Arms is tuned more for condition builds, it still beats out Berserk for power builds – this is really sad.

In terms of PvE feel, the on/off mechanic of Berserking is pretty clunky. The GCD/after-cast changes above definitely help this, but I don’t think is quite solved.

Nike himself said that Berserk’s biggest problem for PvE power-builds is up-time. The current change to Smash Brawler brings its maximum up-time from 50% up to 60%. I don’t think this is enough.

What if Smash Brawler were changed to allow Warriors to maintain 100% Berserk up-time in constant-contact PvE scenarios? “Critical hits extend Berserk duration by 1 second.” “Primal bursts extend Berserk duration by 5 seconds.” Something like this that means when a Warrior is Berserk and fighting, he can actively keep it going until combat ends, he disengages, or there is a lull in the fight.

This type of mechanic would feel really, really good. It’s too strong for an Adept probably… what about making it baseline?

WhiteOil.1836:

its weak

Okay mate, that’s your opinion, which is perfectly fine with me. Since Robert and Burr adequately answered your question, I am just gonna say that this skill is gonna be huge in team fights and I am looking forward to wrecking plebs with it.

darthgreg.2340:

Disappointed that Berserker doesn’t offer enough to a dungeon/raid power build to displace Arms as a trait-line. Gotta run Strength for Forceful Greatsword, gotta run Tactics for Phalanx Strength, just leaves one trait line to play with. Even though Arms is tuned more for condition builds, it still beats out Berserk for power builds – this is really sad.

In terms of PvE feel, the on/off mechanic of Berserking is pretty clunky. The GCD/after-cast changes above definitely help this, but I don’t think is quite solved.

Nike himself said that Berserk’s biggest problem for PvE power-builds is up-time. The current change to Smash Brawler brings its maximum up-time from 50% up to 60%. I don’t think this is enough.

What if Smash Brawler were changed to allow Warriors to maintain 100% Berserk up-time in constant-contact PvE scenarios? “Critical hits extend Berserk duration by 1 second.” “Primal bursts extend Berserk duration by 5 seconds.” Something like this that means when a Warrior is Berserk and fighting, he can actively keep it going until combat ends, he disengages, or there is a lull in the fight.

This type of mechanic would feel really, really good. It’s too strong for an Adept probably… what about making it baseline?

I am by no means a warrior expert but asking for 100% uptime of something like that seems extreme. You dont see necros asking for 100% death shroud uptime.

Vennyhedgie.5369:

I am by no means a warrior expert but asking for 100% uptime of something like that seems extreme. You dont see necros asking for 100% death shroud uptime.

Extreme in what way? If you look at the mechanics of Berserk, it’s not really extreme at all. 15% improved attack speed, substitution of Primal Bursts instead of normal Bursts, some low-damage Burns, and 7% of Precision buff to Ferocity. With my suggestion, you get it 100% of the time instead of 60% of the time.

Balance this against the perks of Arms: 33% chance on critical to inflict vulnerability (8s), 5% damage increase against bleeding enemies, 12% sustainable critical chance increase from Signet Mastery, unblockable (6s) on striking enemy below 50%, 33% chance to inflict bleed (3s) on critical, bonus 1 adrenaline on critical, and a huge amount of bonus condition damage because… what the hell, if you’re going to be inflicting bleeds with your power build, they might as well hurt.

I’m not attached to 100% Berserk up-time being the solution that makes makes it viable for power builds, but it might work and it doesn’t seem extreme to me, at all.

I do find the change to the mace primal burst skill a little confusing. I’m struggling to understand why you’d put bleeding on a weapon that has no other damaging conditions on it. Weakness is very centric to mace and I was surprised to see that off all the conditions that you could have changed, you picked weakness. It doesn’t synergize with the mace set. I can’t see any reason to run mace on a conditions build. If you want to replace anything, make it the confusion. Though the blast finisher is really nice. Just my two cents. The rest of the changes look pretty solid, and I can’t wait to try them out.

Centari Alpha.5631:

I do find the change to the mace primal burst skill a little confusing. I’m struggling to understand why you’d put bleeding on a weapon that has no other damaging conditions on it. Weakness is very centric to mace and I was surprised to see that off all the conditions that you could have changed, you picked weakness. It doesn’t synergize with the mace set. I can’t see any reason to run mace on a conditions build. If you want to replace anything, make it the confusion. Though the blast finisher is really nice. Just my two cents. The rest of the changes look pretty solid, and I can’t wait to try them out.

I think it’s a pretty good change. It could be worth using in a Macebow condition build with body blow and distracting strikes. Or even Mace/torch & Sword/sword for the lulz. You still have weakness on your autoattack and the body blow trait.

I would like to ask why outrage did not get a recharge increase like the thief. Both are too strong at 10 sec. And I get thief had the 20% cool down trait, but 10 sec is still a bit strong.

Robert Gee.9246:

Kidel.2057:

No 5 target limit on Gun Flame explosion? Not even damage reduction?
This primal burst is still WAY more powerful then its normal burst.

Gun Flame has a 5 target limit for the explosion. It had this previously to, but it was per explosion, so you could hit 25 targets with the old version.

Can you clarify this further? I fire the new Gun Flame and it impacts a player in a large group.

- Does it explode on the target as well, dealing double hits or simply explode from them and hit their 4 allies?
- After the explosion, does it pierce and hit more than 5 targets if 5 people were caught in the first explosion?

In other words, assuming the first explosion hits the target and 4 of his friends, the pierce in an ideal situation could hit 4 more targets, no explosions on those for a total of 9 targets hit maximum?

darthgreg.2340:

Disappointed that Berserker doesn’t offer enough to a dungeon/raid power build to displace Arms as a trait-line. Gotta run Strength for Forceful Greatsword, gotta run Tactics for Phalanx Strength, just leaves one trait line to play with. Even though Arms is tuned more for condition builds, it still beats out Berserk for power builds – this is really sad.

In terms of PvE feel, the on/off mechanic of Berserking is pretty clunky. The GCD/after-cast changes above definitely help this, but I don’t think is quite solved.

Nike himself said that Berserk’s biggest problem for PvE power-builds is up-time. The current change to Smash Brawler brings its maximum up-time from 50% up to 60%. I don’t think this is enough.

What if Smash Brawler were changed to allow Warriors to maintain 100% Berserk up-time in constant-contact PvE scenarios? “Critical hits extend Berserk duration by 1 second.” “Primal bursts extend Berserk duration by 5 seconds.” Something like this that means when a Warrior is Berserk and fighting, he can actively keep it going until combat ends, he disengages, or there is a lull in the fight.

This type of mechanic would feel really, really good. It’s too strong for an Adept probably… what about making it baseline?

I don’t want to paint it that bleakly. There is a really good chance that a rotation can be found with Headbutt that allows us to keep Berserker’s Power up 100% of the time. This beta, the issue was that once Berserk ended you had this 15 second dead zone where you couldn’t keep up BP.

Now, using Head Butt as our elite and with Smash Brawler changes, there is a pretty good chance if you use your Primal Burst right before Berserk ends you will be able to keep only 1 or two seconds of downtime before your next Berserk.

I’m a lot more confident now that Berserker will be able to replace Arms. I’ll be doing heavy testing in BWE3 and we’ll know more for sure then.

@RobertGee, great work so far taking the feedback and giving good results. One thing worth considering is there is no GM trait that jumps out as the “PvE trait.” King of Fires is the best choice, especially for a condition damage build but it is pretty good so long as you are in a group. But its still rather unexciting for a Power build in PvE. Bloody Roar is decent too but access to Fury isn’t a huge issue in PvE either. I don’t have a particularly good suggestion, but perhaps adding a 5% damage modifier vs. Burning foes to King of Fires? Kinda brute force, but it is reminiscent of the Bloodlust trait from Arms and makes some sense as a Berserker version of the concept.

Robert Gee.9246:

• Rupturing Smash: Instead of knockback this skill now causes 1 second of immobilize on hit. This skill can no longer hit the same target twice. Increased damage by 100%.

Robert Gee.9246:

Rupturing Smash has a significantly higher target cap than Earthshaker which is why we limited the immobilize duration. Each portion of the cascade strike can hit 3 targets, and there are 5 strikes per wave (minus a few where they would otherwise overlap) and 5 waves. I’m actually still worried this one might be too strong.

• Good, now, please go fix hammer shock [skill]+ leg specialist [trait] combo !
  I’ve been saying this for years, that this combo should be an AOE immob, not just the 1st target.

If you now do possess the tech, use it please for the love of Balthazar.

Robert Gee.9246:

WhiteOil.1836:

we can trait for immobilize already. Rupturing blow was useful for area control and spacing, offence and defense, taking a rick leaping into an area just to immobilize is weak!! the damage was fine

Rupturing Smash has a significantly higher target cap than Earthshaker which is why we limited the immobilize duration. Each portion of the cascade strike can hit 3 targets, and there are 5 strikes per wave (minus a few where they would otherwise overlap) and 5 waves. I’m actually still worried this one might be too strong.

For giving up an aoe stun, I think its fine the way it is now.

NikeEU.7690:

Now, using Head Butt as our elite and with Smash Brawler changes, there is a pretty good chance if you use your Primal Burst right before Berserk ends you will be able to keep only 1 or two seconds of downtime before your next Berserk.

I’m trying to wrap my head around this.

Smash Brawler

Killing a foe reduces the recharge of all primal burst skills. (Changed functionality of this trait.) This trait now reduces the recharge of berserk mode and primal burst skills by 33%.

To me, this means that this trait reduces Berserk recharge from 15s to 10s, and Primal Bursts from 5s to 3.33s. Where’s the 1 second down-time? What am I missing?

Your berserk mode is ending soon. Right before it ends you use a primal burst. That gives 10 seconds of BP. Right after BP ends, your Berserk comes off cool down and you can reactivate and use the burst. There will be a one or two second down time between when BP ends and when Berserk comes off cooldown.

Let’s say you refill your adrenaline quickly during the berserk down time thanks to cleaving multiple mobs or whatever. You can use Arcing Slice to avoid any BP downtime. But then when Berserk mode is ready again you won’t have adrenaline. Thats when you can headbutt to fill up your adrenaline and activate Berserk.

Essentially you can use Headbutt to fill in the gaps in either BP or Berserk since its 30 free adrenaline strikes. Since the Berserk downtime is only 10 seconds now, it should be fairly easy to manage all this. The real key will be making sure you save your last Primal Burst to hit right before the end of Berserk so the BP lasts as long into the downtime as possible.

What about Fast-Hands being baseline? Discipline is a mandatory trait line for most builds. Without it warrior builds are very lacking in performance, which is why you see almost every warrior build running it. At least an answer as to why it “shouldnt” happen from a dev would be nice.

NikeEU.7690:

Your berserk mode is ending soon. Right before it ends you use a primal burst. That gives 10 seconds of BP. Right after BP ends, your Berserk comes off cool down and you can reactivate and use the burst. There will be a one or two second down time between when BP ends and when Berserk comes off cooldown.

Let’s say you refill your adrenaline quickly during the berserk down time thanks to cleaving multiple mobs or whatever. You can use Arcing Slice to avoid any BP downtime. But then when Berserk mode is ready again you won’t have adrenaline. Thats when you can headbutt to fill up your adrenaline and activate Berserk.

Essentially you can use Headbutt to fill in the gaps in either BP or Berserk since its 30 free adrenaline strikes. Since the Berserk downtime is only 10 seconds now, it should be fairly easy to manage all this. The real key will be making sure you save your last Primal Burst to hit right before the end of Berserk so the BP lasts as long into the downtime as possible.

Ah! You were talking about ensuring Berserker’s Power 20% damage stays up between Berserks by Headbutting when Berserk fades. Do you think this could be accomplished as effectively with Signet of Fury, to free up the elite slot for Banner?