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Posted by: Kokurai.7258

Kokurai.7258

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Posted by: BurrTheKing.8571

BurrTheKing.8571

Yes, I’m sure players are going to just stand there like that and that having pure damage and no sustain will totally be game breaking.

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Posted by: Arantheal.7396

Arantheal.7396

>Yes, I’m sure players are going to just stand there like that
Oh, you mean like when empowering, or blasting waterfields, or stacking atop of stairs?

>that having pure damage and no sustain will totally be game breaking.
Why do you think that taking rifle as secondary weapon with you, will lock you out from shouts/stances or mobility?

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

It’ll be great firing that into a reflect.

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Posted by: Arantheal.7396

Arantheal.7396

Nobody said there is no counterplay.
All that is said is that its potential dmg-output against dense groups is gamebreaking for WvW. Ofc, GvG’ers will just pack a wall of reflection, but ever seen a pug zerg being that organized?

Last time we had a easy pug-farm, people were screaming for turret nerfs. So yea, enjoy this skill while it lasts.

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Posted by: BurrTheKing.8571

BurrTheKing.8571

Good. This stacking meta requires very little tactical ability and is basically about blasting combo fields. Having a Zerg busting skill might actually force people to space out and think.

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Posted by: Ice.5162

Ice.5162

Good. This stacking meta requires very little tactical ability and is basically about blasting combo fields. Having a Zerg busting skill might actually force people to space out and think.

This.

Forcing people to kill this habbit which I believe is also in preparation for raiding.

Get over it guys, no more hugging, at least not 24/7

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Posted by: Kidel.2057

Kidel.2057

Yes, I’m sure players are going to just stand there like that and that having pure damage and no sustain will totally be game breaking.

Even if you try to do the same with any other class you simply can’t, except with Ice Bow on ele, and look, that is also broken, lol.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/Rifle-primal-burst/first

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Posted by: Kidel.2057

Kidel.2057

It’ll be great firing that into a reflect.

That skill has 5 seconds of cd. You can reflect maybe 1 if you’re lucky. A Berserker just needs to wait for your reflect to go down and can spam 3 in a row before you’re finished recharging. Or can just move so the the barrier is not in the line of fire.
That projectile is not even that slow, and it just needs to hit 1 target to connect with everyone. No 5 targets limit.

The fact is that every primal burst is weaker then normal bursts, because has shorter cd. This is right. But this rifle primal burst IS. NOT. WEAKER. then rifle normal burst. Period.

And not only it’s not weaker, it’s OP.

Also this reflect thing is bullkitten and solves nothing. What if you really reflect it? It means that the enemy broup has basically been PKed by a companion.
So Berserker will be the meta again. Keep it alive, reflect the other berserker, don’t make them reflect yours!

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Posted by: KhainPride.3987

KhainPride.3987

It’ll be great firing that into a reflect.

That skill has 5 seconds of cd. You can reflect maybe 1 if you’re lucky. A Berserker just needs to wait for your reflect to go down and can spam 3 in a row before you’re finished recharging. Or can just move so the the barrier is not in the line of fire.
That projectile is not even that slow, and it just needs to hit 1 target to connect with everyone. No 5 targets limit.

The fact is that every primal burst is weaker then normal bursts, because has shorter cd. This is right. But this rifle primal burst IS. NOT. WEAKER. then rifle normal burst. Period.

And not only it’s not weaker, it’s OP.

Also this reflect thing is bullkitten and solves nothing. What if you really reflect it? It means that the enemy broup has basically been PKed by a companion.
So Berserker will be the meta again. Keep it alive, reflect the other berserker, don’t make them reflect yours!

wall of reflect from guardians can last upto 12 seconds and most trait it to make it last that long.

That is 1 guardian out of the 10~80 man blobs you will encounter in open world pvp

I know many guild groups run 2 reflects per party or atleast 1 per party and having 2-3 melee parties.

All you need is 1 reflect

Also warrior needs to get 30 adrenaline in a zerg fight and switch to berserker. If you cancle ur burst skills in berserker, it goes on 3 second CD and sometimes you lose your adrenaline for some odd reason.

Also you either choose more power or more defense with when using berserker trait line

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Posted by: online.1278

online.1278

yeah, but you all know, this kind of build sucks at 1vs1. This kind of build should just work as sniper or archer something while melee people is fighting frontline.

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Posted by: lighter.2708

lighter.2708

You are acting like people don’t have down state and will proc that reset trait
also, all these golems have less then half HP..gg

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Posted by: Kidel.2057

Kidel.2057

lighter, regardless of the starting hp, enemy or reflects, 5 sec cd skill with 6-7k damage unbuffed and no target limit is OP. Period.

They said primal bursts are weaker then normal bursts but have less cd and adrenaline required (see longbow), so this skill is a huge fail, since it’s 10x stronger then rifle normal burst.

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Posted by: KhainPride.3987

KhainPride.3987

what in the world are you on kidel

My normal rifle does 15k~25k dmg to multiple people in a stack

this skill is doing an average of 9k but its harder to get to this skill in berserker since you need 30 adrenaline >enter berserker>1 sec cd>use gun flame (so much time wasted on setting up a target in wvw)

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Posted by: lighter.2708

lighter.2708

lighter, regardless of the starting hp, enemy or reflects, 5 sec cd skill with 6-7k damage unbuffed and no target limit is OP. Period.

They said primal bursts are weaker then normal bursts but have less cd and adrenaline required (see longbow), so this skill is a huge fail, since it’s 10x stronger then rifle normal burst.

normal rifle burst does way more damage with 6 sec CD and pierce 5 targets in that golem place, much damage, such wow, nerf normal rifle burst plox

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Posted by: Bean Muncher.5197

Bean Muncher.5197

Step aside, Ice Bow! We have a new master, and it’s the Fiery Greatrifle!

Now if only the berserker would have gotten conjures… sigh

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Posted by: Kidel.2057

Kidel.2057

lighter, regardless of the starting hp, enemy or reflects, 5 sec cd skill with 6-7k damage unbuffed and no target limit is OP. Period.

They said primal bursts are weaker then normal bursts but have less cd and adrenaline required (see longbow), so this skill is a huge fail, since it’s 10x stronger then rifle normal burst.

normal rifle burst does way more damage with 6 sec CD and pierce 5 targets in that golem place, much damage, such wow, nerf normal rifle burst plox

The primal burst has pierce too and explodes on all 5 pierced targets, hitting unlimited enemies around the pierced ones, stacking 6k each (pvp gear, no buffs) and BURNING.
Considering that the explosion can also hit the previously pierced target, I’m sure the damage is higher even on single targets if the skill pierces.

Even with 5 target limit it can still hit 25 times

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Posted by: Thuggernaut.1250

Thuggernaut.1250

Every skill looks good fired into stationary, defenseless golems.

Let’s see how well it performs in WvW with aegis getting spammed everywhere.

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Posted by: Kidel.2057

Kidel.2057

Still 25 times better then normal rifle burst probably

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Posted by: Kokurai.7258

Kokurai.7258

It’ll be great firing that into a reflect.

That skill has 5 seconds of cd. You can reflect maybe 1 if you’re lucky. A Berserker just needs to wait for your reflect to go down and can spam 3 in a row before you’re finished recharging. Or can just move so the the barrier is not in the line of fire.
That projectile is not even that slow, and it just needs to hit 1 target to connect with everyone. No 5 targets limit.

The fact is that every primal burst is weaker then normal bursts, because has shorter cd. This is right. But this rifle primal burst IS. NOT. WEAKER. then rifle normal burst. Period.

And not only it’s not weaker, it’s OP.

Also this reflect thing is bullkitten and solves nothing. What if you really reflect it? It means that the enemy broup has basically been PKed by a companion.
So Berserker will be the meta again. Keep it alive, reflect the other berserker, don’t make them reflect yours!

wall of reflect from guardians can last upto 12 seconds and most trait it to make it last that long.

That is 1 guardian out of the 10~80 man blobs you will encounter in open world pvp

I know many guild groups run 2 reflects per party or atleast 1 per party and having 2-3 melee parties.

All you need is 1 reflect

Also warrior needs to get 30 adrenaline in a zerg fight and switch to berserker. If you cancle ur burst skills in berserker, it goes on 3 second CD and sometimes you lose your adrenaline for some odd reason.

Also you either choose more power or more defense with when using berserker trait line

Signet of might = 6 sec unblockable

cannot be reflected
cannot be absorbed by shield bubble

havent tested on feedback or smoke screen, but i believe itd be a similar effect.

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Posted by: ShakeyStorm.7180

ShakeyStorm.7180

Funny thing is that rifle skills still sucks.

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Posted by: Coldtart.4785

Coldtart.4785

Make your dps party out of 4 rifle zerkers and a chrono so you can drop 4 of these with unblockable and without needing to use signet of might. Should be enough damage to insta down most melee train builds.