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Posted by: mPascoal.4258

mPascoal.4258

Warriors don’t need any buff in any area. What they need is quite the opposite of a buff, but let not do that otherwise the QQ will never end. (Warrior is my fourth character and I must tell, I should have done it before, this think is OP as f***)

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Posted by: redslion.9675

redslion.9675

Sword is indeed a good weapon.

@Redslion, in power build I indeed run with extra bleeding duration + 10% more damage on bleeding targets. makes sword AA almost same damage as Axe.
+ its easy to get furry with Flurry (trait for immob = fury) also

So yes sword is a good weapon and is in a good position.. but still all I do is savage leap > flurry and 111111111111…
Till you have opponent below 50% you hit a massive final thrust

So yes its good.. but I really think final thrust could need a buff on either its casttime or a small buff on damage/maby a different skill above 50% health.
Why should a skill be unused like 80% of the time in a fight?

Yes its called final thrust.. but its removed from AA where there wasn’t a health threshold and now only works below 50% health. rest of the time you only smash 11111111..

Try hit a final thrust on good players.. its often way to slow… so yes make it a real 0,75sec casttime or buff the skill for above 50% health.. because all people see is 1 massive crit from it below 50% but in good 1vs1 situations you wont use this skill for almost the complete fight just because there is no point to use it above 50% and its often way to slow when you do use it below 50%..

We can say its difficulty lies on the fact you can only rely on your movement to stay on target Leap is good to start, rest is not. And then land number 3.XD

You have to keep in mind you’ll have to always stay in front of the enemy to deal full damage.

So no full zerk-spam stances-hope for the best approach.

You will never be able to know what an engineer is going to do next…

because he doesn’t know it himself

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Posted by: Jzaku.9765

Jzaku.9765

It should inflict a strong condition if target is over 50%, and do strong direct damage if the target is under 50%. That way it’s useful for both types of Sword builds and you certainly won’t waste the 15s cooldown on it to do crappy condi damage on a zerker spec above 50% and vice versa.

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Posted by: Omg Casey.5973

Omg Casey.5973

Jus run a main hand axe and have a superior AA and EVISCERATE which hits harder than final thrust anyway with ½ the cooldown time.

And no gap closer, no cc, no def.. well nuting completely. Also the whole dmg backloaded into last hit and pray to gods to crit from it. Also if u think its superior dps do a test. Ask a buddy to run sword with the same trait setup 30/25/0/0/15, try aa each other and tell me how it ended

It ends with axe winning due to the fact that with the 30/25/0/0/15 build with perception stacks you cap at crit chance so there no “praying to the gods for a final crit” there is a reason why sword MH ISN’T the meta as much as I enjoy using sword, as of current it will never be the burst damage weapon of choice. Also the gap closer? It is only useful with trash runs and as for CC axe also has a cripple, surely it isn’t on the AA but you also have bladetrail which is a double multi target cripple. Your move sir.

Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwsH9Lc3qu8

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Posted by: Scoobaniec.9561

Scoobaniec.9561

^ Why u shows me a pve video? And by how much exacly axe winning? 3, 4k hp at best? Also why u taking gs skill into discussion? Take it easy;

In the world of pvp, with protection, with weakness, with the mobility and kiting all around the place, sword is better than axe by a long shot.

AA dps from sword and axe is similiar over time (mace aa has the worst dps followed by trash gs, well at least mace provides weakness.), howered for sword theres also 4sec immo (!) a leap, and final thrust barely weaker than evi.

Trained completely for sword (blademaster, leg specialist, opportunist) we always have extra 30% crit chance up compared to extra 10 crit dmg. Also due to the leap on a short cd we should have about 90% uptime on a target. No way sir, axe is a trash just like gs. Ur move.

Theres olny 1 problem with sword..its burst is weak and i dont know why it wasnt buffed yet

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Posted by: redslion.9675

redslion.9675

Theres olny 1 problem with sword..its burst is weak and i dont know why it wasnt buffed yet

It’s burst is powerful either for organized teams or for GS users. It’s a 5 seconds immobilize. Great for setting up bursts.

other than that, it’s great to make soldier builds in spvp without giving up too much damage.

You will never be able to know what an engineer is going to do next…

because he doesn’t know it himself

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Posted by: Scoobaniec.9561

Scoobaniec.9561

Theres olny 1 problem with sword..its burst is weak and i dont know why it wasnt buffed yet

It’s burst is powerful either for organized teams or for GS users. It’s a 5 seconds immobilize. Great for setting up bursts.

other than that, it’s great to make soldier builds in spvp without giving up too much damage.

So u saying that power dmg for flurry is powerful?

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Posted by: Forzani.2584

Forzani.2584

Theres olny 1 problem with sword..its burst is weak and i dont know why it wasnt buffed yet

It’s burst is powerful either for organized teams or for GS users. It’s a 5 seconds immobilize. Great for setting up bursts.

other than that, it’s great to make soldier builds in spvp without giving up too much damage.

So u saying that power dmg for flurry is powerful?

Did you even read what he typed?

When someone uses the word ‘Meta’, a kitten dies. Don’t do it.

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Posted by: Julie Yann.5379

Julie Yann.5379

Theres olny 1 problem with sword..its burst is weak and i dont know why it wasnt buffed yet

It’s burst is powerful either for organized teams or for GS users. It’s a 5 seconds immobilize. Great for setting up bursts.

other than that, it’s great to make soldier builds in spvp without giving up too much damage.

So u saying that power dmg for flurry is powerful?

Getting immobilized in WvW = DEATH. kitten right flurry is powerful.

Be careful what you wish for, Anet might just give it to you “HoT”
“…let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we shall die;.”

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Posted by: redslion.9675

redslion.9675

Theres olny 1 problem with sword..its burst is weak and i dont know why it wasnt buffed yet

It’s burst is powerful either for organized teams or for GS users. It’s a 5 seconds immobilize. Great for setting up bursts.

other than that, it’s great to make soldier builds in spvp without giving up too much damage.

So u saying that power dmg for flurry is powerful?

Hell yes! I could top 15k with the following hundred blades.

“But that’s another skill” you’ll ask.

Yeah, but what put a death sentence on the enemy were those 5 seconds of immobilize.

You will never be able to know what an engineer is going to do next…

because he doesn’t know it himself

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Posted by: Scoobaniec.9561

Scoobaniec.9561

Right..it has long immo, but the skill alone has to be interrupted and switch to another one.. Doesnt sound like a burst to me. U guys should actually get my point that im not speaking about possible combos with certain weapons, but about the skill on its own.

And from that point of view even intterupting flurry and do 1 spam olny provides highter dps. Also imagine if it actually had a proper dps as it should have to be ur flurry+hb combo would be even stronger and the sword would be completely fine on its own. Sword mh really lacking olny 1 thing; a real burst skill that actually hits for something and not olny under 50% hp.

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Posted by: Loading.4503

Loading.4503

Just wanna say that leg specialist works amazingly with leap and final thrust, but I’m pretty sure you guys will still say it will miss 90% of the time…

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Posted by: Scoobaniec.9561

Scoobaniec.9561

Just wanna say that leg specialist works amazingly with leap and final thrust, but I’m pretty sure you guys will still say it will miss 90% of the time…

The fact it miss is bc savage leap is supposed to leap 600 meters olny, atm its leap up to 900 but it wont hit. At 600 range and lower ive never experienced troubles landing it

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Posted by: redslion.9675

redslion.9675

Just wanna say that leg specialist works amazingly with leap and final thrust, but I’m pretty sure you guys will still say it will miss 90% of the time…

It does, but because I’m crappy at judging distances, never got actually used to using it (I tend to use other sets’ bursts) and because I need it in one of those fights where 90% of skills get wasted for I can barely tell where I am.XD

You will never be able to know what an engineer is going to do next…

because he doesn’t know it himself

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Posted by: Jzaku.9765

Jzaku.9765

Just wanna say that leg specialist works amazingly with leap and final thrust, but I’m pretty sure you guys will still say it will miss 90% of the time…

Uh no it doesn’t, leg specialist immobolizes for 1 second, with all the delay at the end of savage leap and Final Thrust’s clunky slow animation that immob is going to wear out and allow them to dodge before you land it.