Guild Wars 2

Hey guys, just a quick comparison question as to which build would provide more DPS.
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/warrior/?8|1.1g.h1|7.1g.h1.9.1g.h8|1n.a7.1n.a7.1n.a7.1n.a7.1n.a7.1n.a7|2s.0.2s.0.3s.0.3s.0.2s.0.2s.0|k59.u35a.0.0.k65|55.8|e
20/30/0/0/20

VS

20/25/0/0/25
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/warrior/?8|1.1g.h1|7.1g.h12.9.1g.h1|1n.a7.1n.a7.1n.a7.1n.a7.1n.a7.1n.a7|2s.0.2s.0.3s.0.3s.0.2s.0.2s.0|k59.p3a.0.0.p65|55.7|e

While the first build has 33% chance to cause vulnerability on critical +2% extra crit chance, the second build grants might on weapon swap (which you do non-stop), 5% extra critical damage, and about 60 more effective power.

I guess what makes the decision tough is the 33% chance of vulnerability. Is it worth taking the traditional 20/30/0/0/20 build for it? (Even though you already get 8 stacks from axe/mace off-hand).
Both builds will have near 100% crit.
Knight’s armor because I just find myself liking it better

25/25/0/0/20 I think would give you the most dps if you dodge alot, since it automatically gives 50 more power, and 3-4% more damage without full endurance bar (forgot if its 3/4%).
Either way. I think the might on weapon swap is only 1 stack for 10 sec, which isn’t too much compared to a permanent increase in 50 power and 3-4% extra dmg while your endurance isn’t full, which effectively is a lot more. the 5% crit damage would depend on your crit chance.

There you go, fixed your build a bit
I switched:
- sigil of accuracy to force
- knight shoulder, glove, boots to berserker
- traits 25/25/0/0/20

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/warrior/?8|1.1g.h2|7.1g.h1.9.1g.h8|1n.a7.1g.a7.1n.a7.1g.a7.1n.a7.1g.a7|2s.0.2s.0.3s.0.3s.0.2s.0.2s.0|p59.p35.0.0.k65|55.8|e

peter.9024:

There you go, fixed your build a bit
I switched:
- sigil of accuracy to force
- knight shoulder, glove, boots to berserker
- traits 25/25/0/0/20

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/warrior/?8|1.1g.h2|7.1g.h1.9.1g.h8|1n.a7.1g.a7.1n.a7.1g.a7.1n.a7.1g.a7|2s.0.2s.0.3s.0.3s.0.2s.0.2s.0|p59.p35.0.0.k65|55.8|e

That’s at the cost of nearly 10% critical chance though.
I want to have above 95% chance lol

well depends, I mean omnom berry pies got nerfed anyways, so you should still always heal when CD is down.
I mean the real trade of is do you want 3% damage reduction or 10% more damage.

Edit:
since I was bored, here is a 8k effective power warrior build:
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/warrior/?8|1.1g.h2|7.1g.h12.9.1g.h1|1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e|2s.e13.2s.e13.3s.d19.3s.d19.2s.e13.2s.e13|p59.p3a.0.0.k65|39.1|e

peter.9024:

well depends, I mean omnom berry pies got nerfed anyways, so you should still always heal when CD is down.

I just love always doing 2x or more damage with every single one of my hits. Adds a lot of enjoyment to the game for me. Also let’s me stack more vulnerability with rending which helps teams I guess.
I’m almost done with berserker ascended now

OP can’t you just lose bleeds last 50% longer and grab the vulnerability trait?

I was wondering how you were getting such a high crit chance without Fury. Thank you for bringing it to my attention that I’m loosing out on 6% crit chance just because I haven’t got the kitten Ascended items. It completely sucks that I have to play PvE to get those.

As for the builds, I would have thought the one with the vulnerability would do more damage.

Rez.2578:

OP can’t you just lose bleeds last 50% longer and grab the vulnerability trait?

Thank you for pointing this out.
Many people have argued that bleed 50% extra duration is absolutely necessary.
Personally, I don’t see why..
I’m sure at least one other person is applying bleed… isn’t that enough?

So you suggest 25/25/0/0/20 then?

Gutts.8791:

I was wondering how you were getting such a high crit chance without Fury. Thank you for bringing it to my attention that I’m loosing out on 6% crit chance just because I haven’t got the kitten Ascended items. It completely sucks that I have to play PvE to get those.

As for the builds, I would have thought the one with the vulnerability would do more damage.

You don’t necessarily have to.
You can just do dailies and monthlies
Yea, a little PvE, but this months I did almost all the requirements on PvP besides crafting I believe. 100 events goes by so fast in WvWvW

I prefer 30 arms for multiple reasons; crit rate, last chance, ability to equip both f.GS and c.shot (when using GS/Rifle).

HannaDeFreitas.4236:

I prefer 30 arms for multiple reasons; crit rate, last chance, ability to equip both f.GS and c.shot (when using GS/Rifle).

Hey, can you link me your Current build again please?
I think you were using dual axes

peter.9024:

well depends, I mean omnom berry pies got nerfed anyways, so you should still always heal when CD is down.
I mean the real trade of is do you want 3% damage reduction or 10% more damage.

Edit:
since I was bored, here is a 8k effective power warrior build:
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/warrior/?8|1.1g.h2|7.1g.h12.9.1g.h1|1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e|2s.e13.2s.e13.3s.d19.3s.d19.2s.e13.2s.e13|p59.p3a.0.0.k65|39.1|e

Rune of Scholar is highly misleading though

20/25/0/10/15 also gives high DPS, the buildcraft website doesn’t account for the boon buffs from empowered.

Nekrosses.6059:

20/25/0/10/15 also gives high DPS, the buildcraft website doesn’t account for the boon buffs from empowered.

I love the idea of empowered, but it just requires so much sacrifice.
You need to give up perma fury or 9% crit rate from the discipline, then another 5 from arms or or str depending on how you had your traits distributed.

Thank for the reply!

CookMETEnder.7582:

peter.9024:

well depends, I mean omnom berry pies got nerfed anyways, so you should still always heal when CD is down.
I mean the real trade of is do you want 3% damage reduction or 10% more damage.

Edit:
since I was bored, here is a 8k effective power warrior build:
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/warrior/?8|1.1g.h2|7.1g.h12.9.1g.h1|1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e|2s.e13.2s.e13.3s.d19.3s.d19.2s.e13.2s.e13|p59.p3a.0.0.k65|39.1|e

Rune of Scholar is highly misleading though

That is true.. I was just playing with numbers hehe

peter.9024:

CookMETEnder.7582:

peter.9024:

well depends, I mean omnom berry pies got nerfed anyways, so you should still always heal when CD is down.
I mean the real trade of is do you want 3% damage reduction or 10% more damage.

Edit:
since I was bored, here is a 8k effective power warrior build:
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/warrior/?8|1.1g.h2|7.1g.h12.9.1g.h1|1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e.1g.7e|2s.e13.2s.e13.3s.d19.3s.d19.2s.e13.2s.e13|p59.p3a.0.0.k65|39.1|e

Rune of Scholar is highly misleading though

That is true.. I was just playing with numbers hehe

Oh haha
Well, a guildie of mine uses runes of scholar to great affect.
Personally, I never stay above 90% hp T_T… lol
I’m always in the 40~60 range haha

I feel like Scholar Works only for Rifle/Longbow Warriors at best. Melee warriors won’t have their hp above 90% for too long, just like Defense Trait 5, 100 toughness above 90% isn’t gonna help that much (about 3% dmg reduction on the first hit, and then the rest will just melt you away)

CoaxialMazer.9140:

I feel like Scholar Works only for Rifle/Longbow Warriors at best. Melee warriors won’t have their hp above 90% for too long, just like Defense Trait 5, 100 toughness above 90% isn’t gonna help that much (about 3% dmg reduction on the first hit, and then the rest will just melt you away)

YEap xD