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Posted by: Red Falcon.8257

Red Falcon.8257

Hey guys, I made two builds that might interest you.

One is focused on abusing Empower for a more powerful glass cannon than the existing ones:

http://www.gw2db.com/skill-builds/2633-empowered-knight

The other is centered on maximizing DPS while abusing the all-boons mechanic to get survivability along with DPS:

http://www.gw2db.com/skill-builds/2627-knight-of-the-nine-boons

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Posted by: Yaki.9563

Yaki.9563

Hey guys, I made a build that might interest you.

http://www.gw2db.com/skill-builds/2627-knight-of-the-nine-boons

This build offers:
- Extreme Damage

Ok.

- Very high Survivability

Berserker’s gear + 0 defense + no healing shouts= very high survivability? By that reasoning, PVT geared 0/0/30/30/10 spec mace/shield warrior has very high damage….

- Extreme Mobility

Ok. When you’re not immobilized or snared.

- Very high Condition Removal

I don’t think you know what very high means. Strapping on a warhorn doesn’t give you very high condition removal. No soldier’s runes, no condition removing heal and/or signet…

- Maxed Endurance regen

From what? Warhorn doesn’t give 100% uptime vigor.

I think your 30 tactics is wasted if you’re just getting shout cooldown. Put that into discipline for the movement skill trait instead.

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Posted by: killahmayne.9518

killahmayne.9518

i might be mistaken but, doesn’t runes of lyssa last like 5 seconds?

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Posted by: Red Falcon.8257

Red Falcon.8257

i might be mistaken but, doesn’t runes of lyssa last like 5 seconds?

They were changed only in sPvP.
In PvE (including WvW) you still get 10 seconds of all boons (15 seconds with my build).

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Posted by: Krilce.7864

Krilce.7864

i might be mistaken but, doesn’t runes of lyssa last like 5 seconds?

It is still very useful for condition removal, and against other burst builds, when you need to block that steal, eviscerate, and can pump up your damage to really nice numbers. I’m mostly using either Lyssa, or Scholar in PvP, although I prefer Lyssa.

Regarding this build:
25 points in strength is a waste, even though it does increase your damage by a fair bit. 30 in tactics is again, a waste, as those 10 points for shout cooldown could be used much more wisely, so I’d only go for 20 max, only because warhorn can be very useful in melee only builds. Also, mobile strikes would give you much more benefit than Stick and Move, as you won’t be able to get snared, which, along with cripple and chill, is our biggest bane.

Moreover, I’d rather go for Forceful Greatsword in Arms, than for Slashing Power. Slashing Power doesn’t give that much of an advantage, where with FG you’d get 100b lower cd, which can sometimes be essential, not to mention lower cd on WW and Rush, which synergises well with Mobile Strikes. Shouts are rather lackluster in tPvP, as they’re most likely going to decrease your damage output, and they aren’t scaling well with Healing Power.

You also don’t have stability and stunbreaker, which is essential in any warrior’s PvP build.

If this build is meant for PvP, then it definitely won’t work. I don’t know much about PvE and WvWvW, so I can’t really comment on anything from that perspective.

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Posted by: Pixelninja.6971

Pixelninja.6971

You only get all boons for 5sec even in pve. Only the healing skill boon lasts 10sec in pve.
All boons for 15sec every 48sec would be a bit OP.

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Posted by: CoaxialMazer.9140

CoaxialMazer.9140

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/Boon-Guide-Universal-Build/first#post1244240

My version of Boon builds. Broad idea. Boon duration is good, but against an enemy with boon removal…. well…. yea…
and runes of lyssa is 5 seconds in pve (unless someone lied to me and told me there was no stealth changes), so even with 90% boon duration (30 traits/40 armor/ 20 food) its a max of 9.5 seconds (albeit not too bad). Generally aegis gets dropped fast, so i never consider that a factor for empowered.
Lyssa has a slight delay after you activate SOR and is easily interrupted. If you use lyssa’s condition removal aspect, generally you lose out on some time with all the boons (it has bad self synergy, but strong aspects in defense and offense, generally not both). You only gain 10 second of a random boon from lyssa(4). Over all, lyssa runes are strong, but i personally dislike how there is a delay from using SOR and the boons from appearing.

IMO, a build without balance stance, will not survive an encounter (warrior need stability and stun breakers to stay in melee distance, regardless to how you build your character) for too long.

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Posted by: Beefcake.9032

Beefcake.9032

Tested just now, Elite + Lyssa = 5s boons in WvW. 15s = trollin’?

I’m running 20/20/0/10/20 in WvW with Lyssa runes. Utility: Mending, FGJ, SoS, Stability, SoR.

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Posted by: Maylojager.1307

Maylojager.1307

Dear OP, would you be so kind to define terms: “Extreme”, “Very high”, “Maxed”?

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Posted by: Red Falcon.8257

Red Falcon.8257

Dear OP, would you be so kind to define terms: “Extreme”, “Very high”, “Maxed”?

With this build, even in the worst possible conditions you get higher DPS than any other non-boon based build.
The dmg multiplier goes from +38% (only 4 boons), to 48% (when OMM is active) to 58% (when 9 boons).
The average damage bonus is 48%, about 25% more than a normal full glass cannon.

It’s also worth nothing that a Warrior with protection has very high survivability.

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Posted by: MiLkZz.4789

MiLkZz.4789

Interesting concept, never thought of staking boons on a warrior. I have run around with a permanent SOR build which was strong and these runes would have synerchized well.

With a little bit of extra tweaking this could be pretty good

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Posted by: Red Falcon.8257

Red Falcon.8257

Interesting concept, never thought of staking boons on a warrior. I have run around with a permanent SOR build which was strong and these runes would have synerchized well.

With a little bit of extra tweaking this could be pretty good

I’m currently running a build that is close to what you just said:

http://www.gw2db.com/skill-builds/2633-empowered-knight

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Posted by: Yaki.9563

Yaki.9563

Dear OP, would you be so kind to define terms: “Extreme”, “Very high”, “Maxed”?

With this build, even in the worst possible conditions you get higher DPS than any other non-boon based build.
The dmg multiplier goes from +38% (only 4 boons), to 48% (when OMM is active) to 58% (when 9 boons).
The average damage bonus is 48%, about 25% more than a normal full glass cannon.

It’s also worth nothing that a Warrior with protection has very high survivability.

The damage is a lot lower than the standard 20/20/x/x/x build. You give up might stacks on crit and gain…what exactly? Not to mention you can get all the same damage benefits of from boons by going 20/20/x/10/x and still have 20 points left to spend. So no, it’s not the highest damage. In fact, it’s not even higher than the standard GS build.

Everything has higher survivability with protection. GS warrior in berserkers isn’t any more survivable than anything else in berserkers, actually less so. You get protection for 5s every 48s, that’s negligible. So you really have low survivability.

Movement is quite good, though not nearly as good as if you had Mobile Strikes.

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Posted by: tofukiller.9842

tofukiller.9842

well, where to start?

first: i wasted 17 gold to get the runes of lyssa, then it dawned on me, that the boons only last 5 seconds. how great!

i totally fail to see, how your empowered knight build gives you permanent uptime on SoR. also, you talk about the damage bonus of stick and move, which is not in your build. i ran 20/20/0/10/20 for the last few days, going fractals and trolling people in wvw with superior burst (oh poor little asura who ate my 10k eviscerate). i don’t think rune of lyssa is worth it to be honest. stacking boon duration for perma SoR is worth it, I am running this since stefanplc brougth up his hammer wvw build (best warrior build ever imho).

without the intention of attacking you personally, maybe you should do some more testing and research before you post builds and “guides” on the forums.

p.s. your armor looks cool though. ^^

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Posted by: Drawing Guy.3701

Drawing Guy.3701

Sadly Red Falcon, you’ve been wikitheorycrafting. Lyssa is indeed only 5 second boons, and you would have to keep yourself loaded with at least 5 boons constantly to keep up with just “attack of opportunity” (as you glass cannon build should be critting enough to keep a constant bleed for 10% damage). You can’t keep that even half the time, so DPS loss.

@tokitteniller – I wouldn’t consider runes of lyssa a waste – a full condition strip every 48 or 60 seconds is no joke – then you have your boons and precision to go with it. I personally have been debating between these, soldier, and ruby orbs on my Warrior… and i ZERO plans on taking empowered :p

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Posted by: Nier.2478

Nier.2478

No reason to pick Leg Specialist over Empower. Leg Specialist is easily the best trait that you could get in that tree. The damage that you get from Empower isn’t much either.

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