Guild Wars 2

As you can tell by my constant build questions, I’m still searching for a Warrior build that is fun, yet effective in most situations. My goal is to find something that can not only work well in 1v1 but also has the ability to help a team in sPvP or WvW. Being able to tag multiple targets is also a nice bonus. As I’m not at all familiar with the shout builds, I was hoping that some of you may know more about this concept and tell me your thoughts on the shout build linked below.

Survial Shout Warrior

I went ahead with the normal PTV gear (weapons too) but used zerker for everything else. I’m not sure if by so doing that I will have enough DPS to really do much but the hope was to find a balance between damage and survival.

I ran into a Warrior with a similar build last night in an arena match while playing my S/S +LB Warrior and at first, I didn’t catch on as to how he was able to cleanse my conditions so quickly. The guy was a beast to fight and it ended up taking 3 of us to bring him down.

From what you all have seen, what are your thoughts as to the pro/cons of this build linked above?

Is this build for wvw or spvp?
I don’t think there is a shoutheal build that works well for both. In any case, drop 5 from disc and get rousing resilience. Also, you are missing stab, which is required for wvw as well as pvp; drop fear me and get balanced stance.

Plus sw mh doesn’t seem so good if you are going soldier.
I recommend m/sh or m/sw with apothecary stats. Offset hammer seems solid but as support you won’t be doing enough damage to kill anything anyway, so LB is imo more fitting and synergizes with apo. f1+#3 also gives group might.
I personally run a shoutheal support in spvp with mace for stomp/ress interrupts and sword offhand+LB for condi pressure and group support from behind the lines.

Depending on wether you want to bunker side or support mid you should change your elite accordingly; warbanner has won me quite a number of games.

Bottom line: in spvp at least go full heal/bunker if you want to utilize a shoutheal build, a weird hybrid just gimps your team and don’t expect to kill anything in a 1v1 since you have low mobility and not that much bust.
Sure, you’ll wittle down almost any opponent but from my experience they’ll usually just leg it around 20% life.

edit: mace/shield being the more defensive and mace/sword being the offensive varient thorough more condi pressure. sword is better imho since the block doesn’t break from projectiles and the torment and the bleed from #5 does a nice amount of damage. The shield stun is negligible since you already have mace #3 with a low cd.

This build was really designed for WvW though I was hoping to find something that worked well for both. I hate changing builds.

I see what you’re saying about the stability and that was one thing I was concerned about actually. The hope was that with taking fear me that I would get another shout heal and keep folks away long enough to rez someone. I had also thought about the apoth gear as well as that would just make an amazing heal/bunker build.

As for the sword, I just have a hard time giving up the mobility. I know that with this build it doesn’t really fit well but I’d have no way of catching someone or keeping up with the group.

Could you link an example of something you would suggest for both WvW and sPvP?

If you really want the sword mobility, go s/s lb with apo gear for condibunker
or alternatively 2/0/6/6/0 bannerheal with sw/wh – m/sh and cleric.
Bannerheal lacks the burstheal from shouts but the traited warbanner is pretty good,
you free up 2 slots for zerk stance and balanced stance plus traited warhorn is even better against conditions.

Fear me is imo never worth it; the small heal absolutely doesn’t justify 48(traited?) sec cooldown and in wvw zergs people run guards with aoe stab anyway so that slot is just wasted. If you desperately want to use 3 shouts, take on my mark.

ps: as far as i know pvp builds and wvw/pve builds are separate. in the mists, press the ‘pvp build’ tab and if you leave the lobby, your pve/wvw build should still be what it was.

edit: those builds work well in pvp. for wvw you generally want to use things like hammer/lb/axe for tagging in zergfights with high physical resistance on armor.
bannerheal has abysmal dps, even against single targets, let alone in groupfights.

If you mainly want to zerg in wvw, use triple stances with rousing resilience
and defiance stance. I did my whole season 2 meta with full zerk gear and this setup and didn’t die once in 3 days of running with the main force on EB. Just wait for the first cc, then stabi up, after 4 secs switch stances depending on wether you think direct dmg or condi is incoming, chain defiant stance for a full heal afterwards and by that point the fight will be pretty much over in most cases.