Guild Wars 2

well, me a full serker warrior and him a tanky guardian on a small rock in JQ we both spamming skills. and i had a damage assist from a thief(not sure because he disappeared, but most likely backstabbing him). still lost, actually died twice because thief revived me once. and his hp bar is still at half

:\ is it just like that or am i missing something?

You’re a zerker warrior in PvP. That’s where you lost.
Zerker will never beat a bunker build… even a moderately balanced build.

Part of being full glass cannon means you have make use of your mobility skills to completely avoid damage. Putting yourself in a spot where can’t move about will undoubtedly kill you.

It’s a Guardian. Aka no cripple (a single chill but meh, lol).
They have a couple gap closers, you have Rifle butt and GS whirl+rush to get away.
Cripplkite with Rifle until boons are over then stomp him in 3 hits.

Galsia.4102:

Part of being full glass cannon means you have make use of your mobility skills to completely avoid damage. Putting yourself in a spot where can’t move about will undoubtedly kill you.

Yea, it was an awkward moment, we were on a small rock if we fall we die.
normally i would just dodge out of the way, now this happened, so just wondering, because i always thought that a full dps and a full tank would be some how equal not to mention the thief who is also back stabbing him(probably)

Not if you’re playing a “try 2 die” class. I can’t wait until Guardian’s over-the-top sustain gets hit with the nerf bat, or Warriors actually have some sort of close equivalent option instead of lolhealingshouts.

A friend of mine who is on an opposing WvW server recently deleted his level 80 warrior and made a guardian instead. I have four lvl 80s, I’m not a very good PvP player in general but I do like to think I’m ok with the warrior, have won some 1vs2s and a couple of 1vs3s.

Anyway, I thought I’d make him regret changing to a guardian with some duels, but it did not work. They have so many blinds, blocks, teleports etc that it was impossible.

He was using a greatsword and a sword and focus. Starts the battle by using Focus#4 for a block which he can attack while active (unlike our shield which we can only block and run). Teleports to me with sword 2, hits me with sword 3. I auto attack to remove blind, now I have aegis to worry about, so throw greatsword at him, aegis gone. can I now bull’s charge? No, because he’s just blinded me with greatsword 3. There are just too many defensive capabilities to deal with, even though his damage output is lower, it’s more sustained.

JQ is the #1 WvW and PvP server there is, in the entire game. It could be he was just pro, or had help somehow you didnt see.

the way a so called tanky guardian will beat you is through retaliation and periodic burns. They can almost have retaliation boons on constantly. Add that with their tankiness and you are pretty much going blow for blow in terms of how much dmg you are doing to each other.

And this doesn’t even consider the Guardian attacking you or healing/blocking. So without the guardian even trying to hit you, you are at a disadvantage

At the same time, you are a full zerker warrior, and they are never going to beat a tank guardian unless they suck or you can avoid taking dmg the whole fight while still being able to DPS.

Best way to beat a guardian is to go range most of the time, and then go melee when you feel there is a good opportunity. Guardians will destroy you with symbols, burns and retaliation if you go melee. These three things over time will do alot of damage and erode your HP if you aren’t careful, or if you are a full zerker warrior, it’ll be more like bursted. This is just my experience.

They can be hard to deal with, but as long as you keep your distance, kite, time the cooldowns of Guardian skills/boons/virtues, melee when the chance arises, you should be fine or at worst you won’t be able to kill each other. You got to make them blow their virtues as quickly as possible as they do have lengthy cooldowns.

A glass cannon Guardian however in my opinion, isn’t as hard to beat.