Guild Wars 2

Please?

It was already bad last 2 seasons, is there really nobody out there that’s like.. hey maybe it’s not such a good idea to have a class with a TON of cc and burst damage to be almost impossible to take down?

Just why.. the endless supply of resistance boon, dmg nullify, burst condi dmg, burst normal dmg.. doesn’t matter what you build, anything goes really.

I can’t imagine somebody being like hey why not ALL of these things?!

reroll a necro
meta condi builds can melt everything regardless your condi removers.

I already play necro, and all the boon removers and condi cleanse is no match against the rate/supply of all those buffs, it’s ridiculous.

Sun Lian.4075:

I already play necro, and all the boon removers and condi cleanse is no match against the rate/supply of all those buffs, it’s ridiculous.

Why aren’t you corrupting the hell out of the resistance? Warrior has two real sources: one pulsing stance on a 60s cd, and then 6s on a 20s cd that’s tied to its heal.

Warriors aren’t immortal.

Sun Lian.4075:

Please?

It was already bad last 2 seasons, is there really nobody out there that’s like.. hey maybe it’s not such a good idea to have a class with a TON of cc and burst damage to be almost impossible to take down?

Just why.. the endless supply of resistance boon, dmg nullify, burst condi dmg, burst normal dmg.. doesn’t matter what you build, anything goes really.

I can’t imagine somebody being like hey why not ALL of these things?!

are u kittening serious !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! delete the game … just delete it

Warrior has taken some big nerfs recently so yea.. I’d rather it not receive any more at the risk that ppl will stop playing the profession entirely. (adrenal nerf, stance duration nerf)

@Sun Lian.. it sounds like you just need to practice against warriors more. kite when they have their stance buffs up, avoid getting hit by their burst skills so they wont get adrenal healing and you should find its closer of a match up. best of luck.

Sun Lian.4075:

Please?

It was already bad last 2 seasons, is there really nobody out there that’s like.. hey maybe it’s not such a good idea to have a class with a TON of cc and burst damage to be almost impossible to take down?

Just why.. the endless supply of resistance boon, dmg nullify, burst condi dmg, burst normal dmg.. doesn’t matter what you build, anything goes really.

I can’t imagine somebody being like hey why not ALL of these things?!

Seriously.. if my class gets one more nerf because of whines like these.. I’m taking a break from this game..

Taking a hit for two-three months to a potentially worst balance following up is not cool. Now balances have become a frightening scare for many in hopes that their beloved class doesn’t get gutted entirely.

You’re gonna have to learn to play or play another class..

Whining? Warriors do need a nerf, a big one.

You know when I see something OP about necro, I’ll usually agree that it needs to be nerfed, it’s pretty sad that other people can only reply with “l2p” when it’s about their own class.

There is no cleansing this ridiculous burst damage of warrior, or removing their boons. OR doing something about their survivability.

Because they’re PULSES, you can only cleanse so much.. I don’t get why this is so hard to see and I’ve already said this 2 seasons ago too, it needs to be 1 BOON from start with stacks.

Otherwise any boon remove and any cleanse after the PULSING resistance is up again is totally worthless. Basically warriors don’t need to time kitten and everyone else needs to wait for that pulsing to be over and THEN you can try to counter, if you still live.

On top of that, there are 3 buffs on warrior that can’t even be removed because they’re not freaking boons, this also needs to change.
What’s the value of a skill that’s supposed to remove buffs cause that’s what boons are, when some of the most important buffs can’t even be touched?

You guys need to get your head out of your kitten

considering warrior just got nerfed so hard it dropped out of the tournament scene, I’m going to have to go with L2P. there is really nothing else to say, you just need to L2P.

two tips, dodge headbutt, corrupt stability from zerk mode.

Yeah? Well I’ll give it awhile until more people realize this, then we’ll see who needs to L2p.

Till then I’ll just no care since I only pvp for rewards anyway.

Sun Lian.4075:

I only pvp for rewards anyway.

ah, well i understand then

Sun Lian.4075:

Whining? Warriors do need a nerf, a big one.

You know when I see something OP about necro, I’ll usually agree that it needs to be nerfed, it’s pretty sad that other people can only reply with “l2p” when it’s about their own class.

There is no cleansing this ridiculous burst damage of warrior, or removing their boons. OR doing something about their survivability.

Because they’re PULSES, you can only cleanse so much.. I don’t get why this is so hard to see and I’ve already said this 2 seasons ago too, it needs to be 1 BOON from start with stacks.

Otherwise any boon remove and any cleanse after the PULSING resistance is up again is totally worthless. Basically warriors don’t need to time kitten and everyone else needs to wait for that pulsing to be over and THEN you can try to counter, if you still live.

On top of that, there are 3 buffs on warrior that can’t even be removed because they’re not freaking boons, this also needs to change.
What’s the value of a skill that’s supposed to remove buffs cause that’s what boons are, when some of the most important buffs can’t even be touched?

You guys need to get your head out of your kitten

Let me just quote you all the nerfs warriors received in last patch:

• Shield Bash: The initial casting time of this skill has been increased, moving the skill from 0.5 seconds to 0.75 seconds total.
• Arc Divider: The casting time of this skill has been increased by 0.25 seconds.
• Skull Grinder: The damage of this skill has been reduced by 33%. Bleeding has been reduced from 4 stacks for 8 seconds to 3 stacks for 6 seconds. The blast finisher on this skill has been removed. All changes apply to PvP only.
• Headbutt: The casting time of this skill has been increased from 0.5 seconds to 0.75 seconds. Distance traveled has been increased from 300 to 400.
• Healing Signet: The passive healing from this skill has been reduced by 10% in PvP only.
• Endure Pain: In PvP only, the cooldown of this skill has been decreased from 60 seconds to 30 seconds, and the active up-time has been decreased from 4 seconds to 2 seconds.
• Defy Pain: Active up-time has been decreased from 4 seconds to 2 seconds in PvP only.
• Bloody Roar: Taunt duration has been reduced from 1.5 seconds to 0.5 seconds in PvP only.
• Smash Brawler: The cooldown reduction received from this trait has been reduced from 33% to 20%.
• Eternal Champion: This trait no longer grants pulsing stability but instead applies 3 stacks for 8 seconds when activating Berserk.

To sum it up:

• CC skills are so painfully slow now it takes real skill to not avoid them
• Massive nerfs for burst (Skull Grinder, cooldown increase on Smash Brawler)
• Nerfs for survivability (both Healing Signet and Endure Pain)
• Nerf for stability – as you can see, no it is not pulsing stability anymore

I have so many questions though.
How many more nerfs do warriors need in your opinion?
Or what is a “big nerf” in your opinion if this wasn’t one?
Is it really that hard to kite and not engage when Berserk and/or Resistance is up?

Seriously, I think I better let it go and accept the fact there will always be people who come whining and complaining even after the class is recently nerfed to the ground.
#RealLearnToPlayIssuesRightHere

The only way to make warrior less immortal is improve yourself.

You will still feel the same way no matter how much warrior get nerfed if uou don’t improve.

Sun Lian.4075:

Whining? Warriors do need a nerf, a big one.

You know when I see something OP about necro, I’ll usually agree that it needs to be nerfed, it’s pretty sad that other people can only reply with “l2p” when it’s about their own class.

There is no cleansing this ridiculous burst damage of warrior, or removing their boons. OR doing something about their survivability.

Because they’re PULSES, you can only cleanse so much.. I don’t get why this is so hard to see and I’ve already said this 2 seasons ago too, it needs to be 1 BOON from start with stacks.

Otherwise any boon remove and any cleanse after the PULSING resistance is up again is totally worthless. Basically warriors don’t need to time kitten and everyone else needs to wait for that pulsing to be over and THEN you can try to counter, if you still live.

On top of that, there are 3 buffs on warrior that can’t even be removed because they’re not freaking boons, this also needs to change.
What’s the value of a skill that’s supposed to remove buffs cause that’s what boons are, when some of the most important buffs can’t even be touched?

You guys need to get your head out of your kitten

I suggest you post your claims in the Necro forum so that the Necro mains there can teach you how to do deal with this. You’re not going to have competent Necros complaining about power warriors in pvp.

You’re clearly having l2p issues because everything you mentioned is counterable, especially for a Necro. That, or you be trollin’. Either way….

Sun Lian.4075:

Whining? Warriors do need a nerf, a big one.

You know when I see something OP about necro, I’ll usually agree that it needs to be nerfed, it’s pretty sad that other people can only reply with “l2p” when it’s about their own class.

There is no cleansing this ridiculous burst damage of warrior, or removing their boons. OR doing something about their survivability.

Because they’re PULSES, you can only cleanse so much.. I don’t get why this is so hard to see and I’ve already said this 2 seasons ago too, it needs to be 1 BOON from start with stacks.

Otherwise any boon remove and any cleanse after the PULSING resistance is up again is totally worthless. Basically warriors don’t need to time kitten and everyone else needs to wait for that pulsing to be over and THEN you can try to counter, if you still live.

On top of that, there are 3 buffs on warrior that can’t even be removed because they’re not freaking boons, this also needs to change.
What’s the value of a skill that’s supposed to remove buffs cause that’s what boons are, when some of the most important buffs can’t even be touched?

The reason why there’s a chorus of “L2P” is because 90% of the complaints about warriors being OP can be solved by simply adjusting how you fight them. Especially recently. And well… Your issues are completely solvable, by adjusting how you fight against warriors. People have already given good advice, so I’m going to limit my post to the claims you just made.

First off… No removing warrior boons? I’m a little shaky on what’s currently classified as the warrior meta build (since the previous one got nerfed. And I generally don’t pay too much attention to meta, since I enjoy crafting my own builds.), but generally speaking, the only boons getting constantly reapplied without utilities are might (and if its being stripped, not too many stacks) and fury.
The boons from going berserk are once every 10 seconds. Two of which last for 3 seconds, then there’s fury, which lasts for 6. If they’re running Eternal Champion, then some might and stability will be being reapplied, but only if you stun them first. Then there’s three stacks of stability right from the get-go. So, yeah. That’s some pretty good stability uptime. But, keep in mind, since the introduction of HoT, there’s simply been a lot more CC being flung around, and similarly, a lot more stability.
So. Those are the boons you’ll see almost always. They aren’t getting constantly reapplied.
Next up, we come to Berserker’s Stance, which is the thing you seem to be really complaining about. And I’ve really only got a couple of things to say on this matter. “60 second cooldown.” Yes. It’s long resistance uptime. But it has a huge cooldown. Chances are, it won’t get used more than once in a fight. And if used at the wrong time… It can lose fights.
Now, your claims that it’s impossible to strip… Let me put it this way. Resistance is the first boon to get stripped. It gets reapplied every 3 seconds. Necro scepter auto-attack cycles every 1.5 seconds. You do the math. You just need to get one cycle through every three seconds, and your condi bomb will keep ticking. (Oh, and if you think cycling through one full auto attack cycle is excessive to be super effective, then I’d like to point out that axe warriors have been doing this since the beginning of the game.)
There’s also healing signet’s resistance, which is one application, in exchange for a large portion of the warrior’s sustain.

Next up, let’s take a second to appreciate the claim that warriors don’t need to time anything… Warriors have just returned to the era of needing to bait dodges. Because if they don’t, then they probably won’t land headbutt or shield bash, unless they’re in a big fight, with lots of handy distractions. Now, if you’re just talking about berserker stance’s timing… Then just reread my comment on how long its cooldown is. I’ve popped it on a smaller condi bomb before, and as such, died to the huge, full scale condi bomb, about 12 seconds later, once the cooldown was off. The person who I was fighting just kited me for the 9 that it was up. Timing is crucial for berserker stance. Done correctly, it can win a fight. Done incorrectly, it can lose the fight.

Having large buffs which aren’t boons is an aspect of this game. And if you think warriors are the only ones with them, you’re ignoring a lot of classes. Because, well… Signets are buffs, which are not boons. Distortion is a buff which isn’t a boon. Spectral walk is a buff which isn’t a boon, every single guardian virtue is a buff which isn’t a boon, Tempests have Harmonious Conduit, Druids have Grace of the Land… The list can go on. It’s an aspect of balance, and an aspect of flavor for each class, that’s been around since the beginning of the game. It enables Anet to give classes flavor, without being stuck solely with the 11 boons in the game. (Also, it’s worth noting that when they add a boon to the game, that does something which a non-boon class feature did, they change that class feature to fit the boon. Berserker stance being the example, once Resistance was added to the game.)
… I’m honestly not sure how to answer your question there. Because the answer is pretty self evident. Boons are powerful. There’s a reason why there was the “boonshare meta” in WvW for a while, before the boon corruption condi meta ended up overcoming it. Just because you can’t strip away every single buff a class has, doesn’t mean stripping away a bunch of the buffs isn’t useful.

There. A full scale explanation of what warriors are actually capable of, and in the case of one of your biggest problems, the solution to it. And as Choppy suggested, go ask the necro mains how they deal with warrior, and I’m sure they’ll come up with much better class specific advice than I can. (As I’ve only played my necro a little bit.)

Zsoak.5409:

Sun Lian.4075:

Whining? Warriors do need a nerf, a big one.

You know when I see something OP about necro, I’ll usually agree that it needs to be nerfed, it’s pretty sad that other people can only reply with “l2p” when it’s about their own class.

There is no cleansing this ridiculous burst damage of warrior, or removing their boons. OR doing something about their survivability.

Because they’re PULSES, you can only cleanse so much.. I don’t get why this is so hard to see and I’ve already said this 2 seasons ago too, it needs to be 1 BOON from start with stacks.

Otherwise any boon remove and any cleanse after the PULSING resistance is up again is totally worthless. Basically warriors don’t need to time kitten and everyone else needs to wait for that pulsing to be over and THEN you can try to counter, if you still live.

On top of that, there are 3 buffs on warrior that can’t even be removed because they’re not freaking boons, this also needs to change.
What’s the value of a skill that’s supposed to remove buffs cause that’s what boons are, when some of the most important buffs can’t even be touched?

You guys need to get your head out of your kitten

Let me just quote you all the nerfs warriors received in last patch:

• Shield Bash: The initial casting time of this skill has been increased, moving the skill from 0.5 seconds to 0.75 seconds total.
• Arc Divider: The casting time of this skill has been increased by 0.25 seconds.
• Skull Grinder: The damage of this skill has been reduced by 33%. Bleeding has been reduced from 4 stacks for 8 seconds to 3 stacks for 6 seconds. The blast finisher on this skill has been removed. All changes apply to PvP only.
• Headbutt: The casting time of this skill has been increased from 0.5 seconds to 0.75 seconds. Distance traveled has been increased from 300 to 400.
• Healing Signet: The passive healing from this skill has been reduced by 10% in PvP only.
• Endure Pain: In PvP only, the cooldown of this skill has been decreased from 60 seconds to 30 seconds, and the active up-time has been decreased from 4 seconds to 2 seconds.
• Defy Pain: Active up-time has been decreased from 4 seconds to 2 seconds in PvP only.
• Bloody Roar: Taunt duration has been reduced from 1.5 seconds to 0.5 seconds in PvP only.
• Smash Brawler: The cooldown reduction received from this trait has been reduced from 33% to 20%.
• Eternal Champion: This trait no longer grants pulsing stability but instead applies 3 stacks for 8 seconds when activating Berserk.

To sum it up:

• CC skills are so painfully slow now it takes real skill to not avoid them
• Massive nerfs for burst (Skull Grinder, cooldown increase on Smash Brawler)
• Nerfs for survivability (both Healing Signet and Endure Pain)
• Nerf for stability – as you can see, no it is not pulsing stability anymore

I have so many questions though.
How many more nerfs do warriors need in your opinion?
Or what is a “big nerf” in your opinion if this wasn’t one?
Is it really that hard to kite and not engage when Berserk and/or Resistance is up?

Seriously, I think I better let it go and accept the fact there will always be people who come whining and complaining even after the class is recently nerfed to the ground.
#RealLearnToPlayIssuesRightHere

If you were trying to make some smart points, that hashtag ruined it.

• Shield Bash: Was never a problem
• Arc Divider: Was never a problem
• Skull Grinder: This was a good start a decent nerf
• Headbutt: Was never a problem
• Healing Signet: Was definitely never a problem. I mean really, a bit of healing?
• Endure Pain: Huge buff, I don’t know how you can call this a nerf, 2 seconds is all you need with the current burst meta which leaves only a reduced cooldown
• Defy Pain: Less duration but same cooldown, whatever
• Bloody Roar: Was never a problem
• Smash Brawler: Decent nerf

• Eternal Champion: This trait no longer grants pulsing stability but instead applies 3 stacks for 8 seconds when activating Berserk.

This is what I mean, they should do the same thing for Resistance, and I bet you all even cried about THIS being nerfed.
Double PULSING boons that make you immune to any CC and also damage.. yea I’m the one who needs to L2p, not all the people that rerolled warrior last season (and now) because of this.

I would trade ALL of the mentioned nerfs except the one for pulsing Stability, for the same nerf to Resistance.
But then of course none of you would play warrior anymore because you know these are the only 2 nerfs that matter.

And yes it is hard to kite a warrior when you can’t CC, but they can endlessly CC you instead, I like that you all pretend you’re some kind of PvP gods that aren’t affected by any of this but I don’t believe kitten about it.
Well actually you aren’t affected of course, because you play warrior.

it’s obvious you just want to rant and rave. all you are going to get L2P because you’re posting in the forum of a class that was just nerfed out of the tournament meta.

so I ask, why bother? why actually bother with this? why not just yell at your own reflection in the mirror, it’s just as productive, and will get you to the same place posting in the forum will, nowhere.

so, like I get it you’re salty and mad and just want to plug your ears and yell ‘OP PLZ NERF’, but dude why do you think doing that in the warrior forum is worthwhile?

I don’t know, maybe I thought people weren’t childish af when it concerns the class they always “pwn nuubz with”, sorry for my mistake.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/152754721

The match starts at 03:08:00, See the only warrior in the competition and how OP he is.
Listen to the comments about how the team should not use warrior but other class instead.

After that if you dont understand what people are trying to tell you, maybe its better to ask on the necro fórum.

Have a great game.

Sun Lian.4075:

I don’t know, maybe I thought people weren’t childish af when it concerns the class they always “pwn nuubz with”, sorry for my mistake.

like honestly, honest to god you are coming here complaining that you can’t counter a 60 second cooldown utility skill with an auto attack. just think about what you’re complaining about. tell me how it’s not asking for an easy win.

every other boon Warrior has is corruptible, noone uses balanced stance at all so that doesn’t matter. so it’s just zerker stance you can’t corrupt with your auto attacks. wow dude. you might have to kite. you might have to dodge. wow dude you might have to do more than spam auto for corrupt. perish the thought. there are buffs you have to play around, you can’t just corrupt everything with auto attacks.

your class is firmly in tournament meta. firmly. it’s almost a must pick.

you are on a must pick class complaining about a class that is not worth having in your team.

if you don’t understand how we find that hard to sympathize with then I don’t know what to tell you dude.

Sun Lian.4075:

If you were trying to make some smart points, that hashtag ruined it.

• Shield Bash: Was never a problem
• Headbutt: Was never a problem
• Bloody Roar: Was never a problem

…

And yes it is hard to kite a warrior when you can’t CC, but they can endlessly CC you instead…

And there we go, the confirmation of what I’d been theorizing. Warrior CC was one of the large things on your list of “OP Nerf NAO.” And yet, when we point out that it’s been nerfed, you claim that oh, those were never an issue.

Ladies and gentlemen, allow me to describe this entire thread in four words. “Troll post is troll.”

The Not so Evil Overlord.6305:

Sun Lian.4075:

If you were trying to make some smart points, that hashtag ruined it.

• Shield Bash: Was never a problem
• Headbutt: Was never a problem
• Bloody Roar: Was never a problem

…

And yes it is hard to kite a warrior when you can’t CC, but they can endlessly CC you instead…

And there we go, the confirmation of what I’d been theorizing. Warrior CC was one of the large things on your list of “OP Nerf NAO.” And yet, when we point out that it’s been nerfed, you claim that oh, those were never an issue.

Ladies and gentlemen, allow me to describe this entire thread in four words. “Troll post is troll.”

facepalm

There are more CC skills other than shield bash and head butt.
The problem is that you can combo like 4 CC skills way too fast, and that the same combo also deals the biggest burst damage.

In other words, if you use your stun break after the first 2 or so you’re still screwed, if you wait too long you also die because it’s burst damage.
And even if you manage to stunbreak and cleanse through this, you can’t do anything but kite because of Resistance and dmg nullify that comes after it.
And after that, almost all skills are off cooldown and the same kitten is repeated.

Sun Lian.4075:

I don’t know, maybe I thought people weren’t childish af when it concerns the class they always “pwn nuubz with”, sorry for my mistake.

Maybe people who have a better understanding of how to play a necro well can help you.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/Warriors-Wicked-OP-for-Necros-in-PvP

You’re welcome.

Choppy.4183:

Sun Lian.4075:

I don’t know, maybe I thought people weren’t childish af when it concerns the class they always “pwn nuubz with”, sorry for my mistake.

Maybe people who have a better understanding of how to play a necro well can help you.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/Warriors-Wicked-OP-for-Necros-in-PvP

You’re welcome.

Maybe you should get your head out of your butt, I’m a good necro.
And I find it funny how you agree with me on EP’s buff in another thread.

But I think I know what’s going on, I just probably face more talented warriors in PvP than the people in this thread. I understand you have such big issues with losing your rerolled faceroll class when you’re only mediocre.

how in the actual kitten can u chain 4 cc’s way too fast? the main cc’s are telegraphed and slow as hell, if u take other ccs u gamble way to much by not taking stances so wtf are we talking here?
and why are you posting on warr forum in the first place? u need atention? go cry on necro forum and maybe some1 will teach u how op can necro be, then you will realize how domb u look in the warr forum.
l2p

Sun Lian.4075:

But I think I know what’s going on, I just probably face more talented warriors in PvP than the people in this thread. I understand you have such big issues with losing your rerolled faceroll class when you’re only mediocre.

ah yes the humility, no ego, no salt.

I won’t bother to mention how wrong you are, that I’ve played warrior since day 1, and can kindly beat it on both guardian and engineer. won’t mention that I know necro’s who can beat warrior easily too.

because just as you know, you’re the best player in the game and your losses are always down to OP builds. of course! seems so true.

Show gameplay vid? Unless you don’t want to make a fool out of yourself.

Sun Lian.4075:

Choppy.4183:

Sun Lian.4075:

I don’t know, maybe I thought people weren’t childish af when it concerns the class they always “pwn nuubz with”, sorry for my mistake.

Maybe people who have a better understanding of how to play a necro well can help you.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/Warriors-Wicked-OP-for-Necros-in-PvP

You’re welcome.

Maybe you should get your head out of your butt, I’m a good necro.
And I find it funny how you agree with me on EP’s buff in another thread.

But I think I know what’s going on, I just probably face more talented warriors in PvP than the people in this thread. I understand you have such big issues with losing your rerolled faceroll class when you’re only mediocre.

Maybe you should try to fight warrior as suggested, if you are as skillful as you’ve claimed you should be fine following these suggestions.

Sun Lian.4075:

Maybe you should get your head out of your butt, I’m a good necro.

How do you know you’re a good necro? The problems you’ve described are easily solvable with tools you already have at your disposal.

The first post in that other thread gives very solid advice, for example.

Sun Lian.4075:

I understand you have such big issues with losing your rerolled faceroll class when you’re only mediocre.

Ok, wanna get some duels in? We can record them and post here for post-fight analysis. Either we’ll expose what you’re doing wrong, or that you know there’s no issue and you’re just craving attention.

Sun Lian.4075:

Choppy.4183:

Sun Lian.4075:

I don’t know, maybe I thought people weren’t childish af when it concerns the class they always “pwn nuubz with”, sorry for my mistake.

Maybe people who have a better understanding of how to play a necro well can help you.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/Warriors-Wicked-OP-for-Necros-in-PvP

You’re welcome.

Maybe you should get your head out of your butt, I’m a good necro.
And I find it funny how you agree with me on EP’s buff in another thread.

But I think I know what’s going on, I just probably face more talented warriors in PvP than the people in this thread. I understand you have such big issues with losing your rerolled faceroll class when you’re only mediocre.

I dont think a good necro would make a post like this to begin with.

Choppy.4183:

Sun Lian.4075:

Maybe you should get your head out of your butt, I’m a good necro.

How do you know you’re a good necro? The problems you’ve described are easily solvable with tools you already have at your disposal.

The first post in that other thread gives very solid advice, for example.

Sun Lian.4075:

I understand you have such big issues with losing your rerolled faceroll class when you’re only mediocre.

Ok, wanna get some duels in? We can record them and post here for post-fight analysis. Either we’ll expose what you’re doing wrong, or that you know there’s no issue and you’re just craving attention.

Not craving attention, just don’t like faceroll classes.

Sun Lian.4075:

Not craving attention, just don’t like faceroll classes.

Seems to me that you’d accept the challenge and put your claims to the test, if you were serious.

And, c’mon man, you play condi reaper, which is among the most faceroll builds in the game atm. Bravo if you’re deliberately being ironic.

Sun Lian.4075:

Please?

It was already bad last 2 seasons, is there really nobody out there that’s like.. hey maybe it’s not such a good idea to have a class with a TON of cc and burst damage to be almost impossible to take down?

Just why.. the endless supply of resistance boon, dmg nullify, burst condi dmg, burst normal dmg.. doesn’t matter what you build, anything goes really.

I can’t imagine somebody being like hey why not ALL of these things?!

you must be one of those necros which go to mid,pop all skills>shroud>dead.
war is so overnerfed,its not even funny anymore.

Sun Lian, as much as it pains me to just drop the ole “L2P” in a thread it’s realistically the only approach you’ve left anyone.

I mained Mesmer, switched to guardian and switched to Warrior over the years. I have almost exclusively run Power builds and 6 months ago, I might’ve given your claims more credibility. Playing through the nerfs, while I still have fun with warrior, sPvP is really rough against good players. Workable, but absolutely not overpowered. Basic mechanics have always been pretty easy on warrior, but the current cast times are very punishing if the other player knows what to look for.

You don’t know what to look for. Play what you struggle against.

By over the years you mean when they got buffed probably, just like literally everyone.

But the “nerfs” are no real nerfs, it barely affect anything that makes Warrior too strong, if you’re such an experienced warrior you know this.
Why else did the Warrior numbers in PvP still not drop since last season?

Anyway this thread is no use, nobody ever wants to admit there’s even the slighest thing wrong with the class they’re playing, only because they wanna keep it overpowered.

I mean if necro was overpowered or had some changes that 90% of the community considers a nerf that’s “killing the class” while it’s really not, I wouldn’t shut my mouth either and I almost only play necro, like when they changed Deathly Chill and boy did people rage back then.

there you go: " I almost only play necro" sais it all. how do u expect to perform good against other classes if u dont even try them.
pro tip: when u face a warr and u do 0 dmg>> run away, if u see him turn red >>run away.
after the cooldowns drop, warr is weak. free lesson ends here. u play condi bomb necro wich is insanely strong and its simply not enough for you.
nowadayz a good player gets almoast no hits from warr’s bursts/headbutt/s bash cuz they hit in slow motion and even a blind man sees the hit coming.
now what? just go duel some warriors, record then post the clip here, then we analyze your “amazing skills” , some1 offered to duel you and record. hell, ill duel you and im slightly above average in 1v1
but i guess u are here just to kitten off the warr forum

Almost doesn’t mean I don’t try other classes.

Warriors are immortal…. Lol Learn to kite and not eat every f1 they use

Sun Lian.4075:

By over the years you mean when they got buffed probably, just like literally everyone.

But the “nerfs” are no real nerfs, it barely affect anything that makes Warrior too strong, if you’re such an experienced warrior you know this.
Why else did the Warrior numbers in PvP still not drop since last season?

Anyway this thread is no use, nobody ever wants to admit there’s even the slighest thing wrong with the class they’re playing, only because they wanna keep it overpowered.

I mean if necro was overpowered or had some changes that 90% of the community considers a nerf that’s “killing the class” while it’s really not, I wouldn’t shut my mouth either and I almost only play necro, like when they changed Deathly Chill and boy did people rage back then.

You should refer to that other thread where actual necros have provides helpful hints to fighting warriors, and confirmed that warriors aren’t at any real advantage against then.

Also, many of the people on this thread (myself included) have repeatedly posted about aspects of warriors that could use nerfs. But your claims are just absurd.

Sun Lian.4075:

By over the years you mean when they got buffed probably, just like literally everyone.

But the “nerfs” are no real nerfs, it barely affect anything that makes Warrior too strong, if you’re such an experienced warrior you know this.
Why else did the Warrior numbers in PvP still not drop since last season?

Anyway this thread is no use, nobody ever wants to admit there’s even the slighest thing wrong with the class they’re playing, only because they wanna keep it overpowered.

I mean if necro was overpowered or had some changes that 90% of the community considers a nerf that’s “killing the class” while it’s really not, I wouldn’t shut my mouth either and I almost only play necro, like when they changed Deathly Chill and boy did people rage back then.

As someone who played and still plays (almost) exclusively power shatter on Mesmer, I’ve properly seen a build/class get kitten on and improperly balanced time and time again and stuck with it. Because it’s fun.

When Warrior was fairly OP, I rolled one to figure out my windows of opportunity to properly burst and interrupt key skills. I think I first did this back in Hambow meta, and have revisited every class/build that seems very strong to have at least a basic understanding since.

I’m not claiming to be an expert by any means. But I can say that after reading your constant “warrior just don’t want nerf you’re all liars” garbage that you should really take a cold shower and spend time on one till you know how to beat it.

I’ve never relied on Anet to nerf anything that should be reliably; you either whine or just have fun and adapt, try to remove your ego from the equation to improve.

in my perspective i start to believe that his opinion is unshakable no matter the arguments, in this case why u even post if u cant take it like a man and admit that u need to improve.
or some1 pays him to troll our forums

Sun Lian.4075 … I just can’t believe that you didnt delete this topic yet … L2P, stop whining, go work and improve yourself in gw2, stop trolling and talking kitten, if you are that bad .. go pve

Perhaps unrelated, but I actually feel like warrior is more fun since post nerf. It opened up a bit more diversity by nerfing the “must have” and promoted a bit more active game play. However the shield bash nerf was uncalled for, and gs zerk burst should have been reworked. Proper nerf would habe been range, but then it’d be like gs core burst. So total rework wouldve been better.

I went back to core gs, axe/sh str-disc-def build only using berserker stance as stance, and i love it. Was a long time ago since warrior felt so fluent and close to its origins in my opinion