Guild Wars 2

I would like more aggressive leaps/pulls on other weapons. It feels like a lot of our weapons are in-complete compared to other classes. Other class’s weapons have boons/conditions and a lot of cool effects attached right to them, while ours are like theirs, except less. Bland

i would like more combo fields actually.

Daecollo.9578:

I would like more aggressive leaps/pulls on other weapons. It feels like a lot of our weapons are in-complete compared to other classes. Other class’s weapons have boons/conditions and a lot of cool effects attached right to them, while ours are like theirs, except less. Bland

Pretty sure the reason why we don’t get boons on weapons is because that’s something that is a distinctively Guardian thing.

In terms of conditions, Warriors have good access to Vulnerability and excellent access to Cripple. And we have the longest bleeds in the game. And of course, we’re one of the few to get Torment.

As for leaps and pulls, I don’t really know. The thing is, we have so much cripple that giving more means of catching up to our foes might become broken. If anything is done to our movement, I would prefer them making Rush better.

id trade rush and bulls for a pull in a heart beat.

Assassin X.8573:

id trade rush and bulls for a pull in a heart beat.

Hell no. If any thing stomp for a pull

alamore.1974:

Assassin X.8573:

id trade rush and bulls for a pull in a heart beat.

Hell no. If any thing stomp for a pull

stomp so hard you make a crater and every1 gets pulled down to the bottom

Daecollo.9578:

I would like more aggressive leaps/pulls on other weapons. It feels like a lot of our weapons are in-complete compared to other classes. Other class’s weapons have boons/conditions and a lot of cool effects attached right to them, while ours are like theirs, except less. Bland

You want boons on your weapons? Go play a Guardian.

You want cool effects? Put on a dress and play a magic user if the Guardian isn’t for you.

Sagramor.7395:

Daecollo.9578:

I would like more aggressive leaps/pulls on other weapons. It feels like a lot of our weapons are in-complete compared to other classes. Other class’s weapons have boons/conditions and a lot of cool effects attached right to them, while ours are like theirs, except less. Bland

You want boons on your weapons? Go play a Guardian.

You want cool effects? Put on a dress and play a magic user if the Guardian isn’t for you.

I am saying that these classes have more powerful complete weapons while warriors have more subpar. If you didn’t get the message before I would like our weapons to be more complete as well to compare to those classes weapons.

I don’t want boons or conditions, but if they can at least give us good effects in the form of pulls/leaps/crowd control/cripple/ect ect, it would be nice.

alamore.1974:

Assassin X.8573:

id trade rush and bulls for a pull in a heart beat.

Hell no. If any thing stomp for a pull

Hell no! I love stomp. It messes thieves up so badly. When he first pops out to stab me I stomp, then pin down, then bull rush him when he tries to teleport away and go into stealth. I’d hate losing either of those abilities. 2 warriors together using those skills is pretty funny. we tortured a thief yesterday doing that. knocking him flat on his butt every time he attempted to get up and stealth.

Daecollo.9578:

Sagramor.7395:

Daecollo.9578:

I would like more aggressive leaps/pulls on other weapons. It feels like a lot of our weapons are in-complete compared to other classes. Other class’s weapons have boons/conditions and a lot of cool effects attached right to them, while ours are like theirs, except less. Bland

You want boons on your weapons? Go play a Guardian.

You want cool effects? Put on a dress and play a magic user if the Guardian isn’t for you.

I am saying that these classes have more powerful complete weapons while warriors have more subpar. If you didn’t get the message before I would like our weapons to be more complete as well to compare to those classes weapons.

I don’t want boons or conditions, but if they can at least give us good effects in the form of pulls/leaps/crowd control/cripple/ect ect, it would be nice.

I’ve been playing my Warrior on and off since about a month or so after release, and the only weapon set I’ve ever felt needs any love was Greatsword. The burst on it is crap, and #1 is on par with my Engi’s TK #1 which is world renowned for being underwhelming. The other weapon sets all feel pretty complete to me.

Pull – Where would you put a pull? It doesn’t fit on any of our weapon sets aside from the Spear (where it currently resides). You’d have to scrap one of the Physical utilities and put it there, but Thieves already have Scorpion Wire and it would be a carbon copy of that. So that’s why there’s a lack of Pull.

Leap (Finisher) – Savage Leap, Eviscerate, Earthshaker, Shield Bash, Bull’s Charge, Rampage #3

Crowd Control (Assuming you mean Control Effects) – Hammer #4, #5, F1; Rifle #5; Mace #3, #5, F1; Shield #4; Bulls Charge; Stomp; Kick; Fear Me; Spear #3, F1; Harpoon Gun #5 (not sure if that last one counts, but why not); Rampage #1, #2, #4, #5

Cripple/Immobilize – Greatsword #4; Hammer #3; Longbow #5; Rifle #2; Axe #3; Sword #1, #2, F1; Harpoon Gun #4; Throw Bolas; Leg Specialist; Rampage #1

Nikkinella.8254:

alamore.1974:

Assassin X.8573:

id trade rush and bulls for a pull in a heart beat.

Hell no. If any thing stomp for a pull

Hell no! I love stomp. It messes thieves up so badly. When he first pops out to stab me I stomp, then pin down, then bull rush him when he tries to teleport away and go into stealth. I’d hate losing either of those abilities. 2 warriors together using those skills is pretty funny. we tortured a thief yesterday doing that. knocking him flat on his butt every time he attempted to get up and stealth.

I’m with you. I love tossing Thieves around.

Thieves dagger ‘4’ pulls out a completely different weapon and throws it at the target.

It would be cool for example, if Greatsword ‘4’ pulled out a chain and used the greatsword to pull the target back.

Daecollo.9578:

Thieves dagger ‘4’ pulls out a completely different weapon and throws it at the target.

It would be cool for example, if Greatsword ‘4’ pulled out a chain and used the greatsword to pull the target back.

So go play a Guardian and use their Greatsword (#5).

i think the warriors weapon sets are in a very good place myself. (with the exception of rifle)

we don’t have a lot of boons tied to our weapons because as warriors we don’t wave our weapons about trying to get effects, we hit people with them.

we don’t have a lot of flashy effects on our weapons because as warriors we use our weapons to kill things, not put on light shows.

simple, brutal, direct, effective.

Fiorrello.8126:

i think the warriors weapon sets are in a very good place myself. (with the exception of rifle)

we don’t have a lot of boons tied to our weapons because as warriors we don’t wave our weapons about trying to get effects, we hit people with them.

we don’t have a lot of flashy effects on our weapons because as warriors we use our weapons to kill things, not put on light shows.

simple, brutal, direct, effective.

The problem is, our abilities are the most telegraphed.

Daecollo.9578:

Fiorrello.8126:

i think the warriors weapon sets are in a very good place myself. (with the exception of rifle)

we don’t have a lot of boons tied to our weapons because as warriors we don’t wave our weapons about trying to get effects, we hit people with them.

we don’t have a lot of flashy effects on our weapons because as warriors we use our weapons to kill things, not put on light shows.

simple, brutal, direct, effective.

The problem is, our abilities are the most telegraphed.

I’m with Fiorella. If you don’t want telegraphed abilities go play Asura.

So far this thread boils down to go play an Asuran Guardian.

Don’t need leaps. We got some.

We need pulls.

Non melee classes have pulls yet we -the only real melee one- got none. Again Anet logical thinking in the works, lol.

Daecollo.9578:

Thieves dagger ‘4’ pulls out a completely different weapon and throws it at the target.

It would be cool for example, if Greatsword ‘4’ pulled out a chain and used the greatsword to pull the target back.

Thief dagger 4 is a dagger..

Daecollo.9578:

It would be cool for example, if Greatsword ‘4’ pulled out a chain and used the greatsword to pull the target back.

I cant believe I’m saying this but…. I’m with Daecollo on this one.

Several of our weapon sets seem to have buttons which, IMO of course, could stand to be looked at for retweaking. For example:
Axe 2, Hammer 2, GS 2+4

I actually love the idea of getting a mid range pull on GS4 in exchange for the clunky, awkward, and largely useless GS Toss we’ve got there now. Better still, it means that #2 now gets a niche use in PvP, immobing foes and getting 2-3 whacks of hundo blades before they can dodge away. Also means you wont need Mace/Shield as a ‘babysitter’ weapon for GS PvP.

Greatsword #4: Chain o’ Pain
“Throws your Greatsword with a Chain attached to the hilt. Upon striking a foe, they are instantly reeled in, and immobilized for 1 second. Range 600, Pull Distance 600. CT 1/2, CD 20.”

Edit: Daecollo I’m stealing this idea for my master list of stuff warriors need

Okay, so say they implement “Chain o’ Pain” Daecollo’s still gonna complain that it’s two telegraphed.

When swinging around a big 2-handed weapon it’s going to be noticeable unless you’re an Asura.

I actually don’t have issue with your “Chain o’Pain” proposal, but the elephant in the room on Greatsword is Arcing Slice, not Bladetrail. For starters it’s an overhead strike, but the description refers to it as an uppercut. Most importantly the only time a GS Warrior hits F1 is by accident.

Warrior need sustain.
Instead more leap, we could get evades.

One single and perma visible target could count with good evade, heal and/or some sustain.
Warrior still the easier class to kill :/

Sagramor.7395:

Okay, so say they implement “Chain o’ Pain” Daecollo’s still gonna complain that it’s two telegraphed.

the only time a GS Warrior hits F1 is by accident.

Yeah, but I still like his idea. Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and again.

And yeah, we all know F1 is a very odd skill.
It sounds like it should have synergy with forceful greatsword, but in practice, the majority of GS users are running Zerkers Might and have 100% fury uptime, so they neither need more fury, nor care to use their adrenaline due to the 15% damage loss. There have been a thousand threads on redoing it, and yet here we are…..
I still favor it being an “uppercut” as the description states, with a launch instead of fury.

Viking Jorun.5413:

Daecollo.9578:

Thieves dagger ‘4’ pulls out a completely different weapon and throws it at the target.

It would be cool for example, if Greatsword ‘4’ pulled out a chain and used the greatsword to pull the target back.

Thief dagger 4 is a dagger..

No, they throw a Ninja Star.

Daecollo.9578:

Viking Jorun.5413:

Daecollo.9578:

Thieves dagger ‘4’ pulls out a completely different weapon and throws it at the target.

It would be cool for example, if Greatsword ‘4’ pulled out a chain and used the greatsword to pull the target back.

Thief dagger 4 is a dagger..

No, they throw a Ninja Star.

/sigh

Dand.8231:

Sagramor.7395:

Okay, so say they implement “Chain o’ Pain” Daecollo’s still gonna complain that it’s two telegraphed.

the only time a GS Warrior hits F1 is by accident.

Yeah, but I still like his idea. Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and again.

And yeah, we all know F1 is a very odd skill.
It sounds like it should have synergy with forceful greatsword, but in practice, the majority of GS users are running Zerkers Might and have 100% fury uptime, so they neither need more fury, nor care to use their adrenaline due to the 15% damage loss. There have been a thousand threads on redoing it, and yet here we are…..
I still favor it being an “uppercut” as the description states, with a launch instead of fury.

I’d be all for Arcing Slice being as the description states with a knockback. Alternative being put HB on F1 and put a parry (with a counter strike) on #2.

GS can’t have highest mobility, highest burst (arguably) AND cc. It would be overpowered.

EDIT: Also IMHO we have plenty of cripples (only longbow and mace don’t have one if i’m not mistaken) and that is plenty of movement control even without the CC we get from many weapons.