Cleansing Ire works against burst mastery

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Posted by: BlueprintLFE.2358

BlueprintLFE.2358

So I just tested out cleansing ire and burst mastery in some WvW to see how well it works hammer still has the blind problem of missing the burst not removing condies, but besides that these 2 traits work against each other.

Cleansing Ire removes an amount of condies on adrenaline spent, burst mastery makes you spend less adrenaline on burst.

Anyone have any thoughts or input on this.

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Posted by: deathTouch.9706

deathTouch.9706

Yeah I have a thought. Stick with melandru runes and -cond food and spend the trait points on something other than cleansing ire.

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Posted by: Serdoc.7261

Serdoc.7261

That is pretty funny. Slow Clap…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAryFIuRxmQ

I’m not sure, can you, umm…. do that again? ROM – 2015
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Posted by: Scoobaniec.9561

Scoobaniec.9561

Blinds got a boost..U cant remove them anymore if ur not next to ur target/using range wep.

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Posted by: Redscope.6215

Redscope.6215

So I just tested out cleansing ire and burst mastery in some WvW to see how well it works hammer still has the blind problem of missing the burst not removing condies, but besides that these 2 traits work against each other.

Cleansing Ire removes an amount of condies on adrenaline spent, burst mastery makes you spend less adrenaline on burst.

Anyone have any thoughts or input on this.

Thoughts:

Add less, test more. This could have been avoided with someone testing the altered traits properly.

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Posted by: loseridoit.2756

loseridoit.2756

Blinds got a boost..U cant remove them anymore if ur not next to ur target/using range wep.

seriously?

blind was always strong, now its just much stronger

i wonder how mesmers feel now

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Posted by: Opynn.2936

Opynn.2936

Tested it in Orr . Plauge carrires on explode give you 4 conditions. Used Earthsaker – lost 3 conditions. I was using burst mastery.

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Posted by: Loading.4503

Loading.4503

I was hoping that this would help my hammer with blinds but I guess not, I think its time to finally cave in to melandru runes

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Posted by: Scoobaniec.9561

Scoobaniec.9561

Blinds got a boost..U cant remove them anymore if ur not next to ur target/using range wep.

seriously?

blind was always strong, now its just much stronger

i wonder how mesmers feel now

They were easy to counter but now..nah..Im done writting. The changed to blinds and sword mh killed me inside

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Posted by: loseridoit.2756

loseridoit.2756

Blinds got a boost..U cant remove them anymore if ur not next to ur target/using range wep.

seriously?

blind was always strong, now its just much stronger

i wonder how mesmers feel now

They were easy to counter but now..nah..Im done writting. The changed to blinds and sword mh killed me inside

good players used blind as interrupts

bad players use them as conditions

blind is quite strong

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Posted by: Kurwan.4089

Kurwan.4089

So I just tested out cleansing ire and burst mastery in some WvW to see how well it works hammer still has the blind problem of missing the burst not removing condies, but besides that these 2 traits work against each other.

Cleansing Ire removes an amount of condies on adrenaline spent, burst mastery makes you spend less adrenaline on burst.

Anyone have any thoughts or input on this.

Do you mean Adrenal reserves? because Burst Mastery as of now, increase burst skill damage by 10%.

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Posted by: Knox.3748

Knox.3748

Cleansing Ire and Burst Mastery synergises pretty well.

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Posted by: robocafaz.9017

robocafaz.9017

We talked about this on Sunday’s Adrenaline Rising. The conditions should really be cleansed on-cast not on-hit for it to be useful.

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Posted by: Artukk.1583

Artukk.1583

We talked about this on Sunday’s Adrenaline Rising. The conditions should really be cleansed on-cast not on-hit for it to be useful.

That’d be considered too strong I’m sure. It would be wonderful though!

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Posted by: robocafaz.9017

robocafaz.9017

We talked about this on Sunday’s Adrenaline Rising. The conditions should really be cleansed on-cast not on-hit for it to be useful.

That’d be considered too strong I’m sure. It would be wonderful though!

Yeah, I was thinking about that as I was writing it out. I was gonna suggest moving it to Grandmaster but then most Warriors would get pigeonholed into 30 Defense. Maybe make it only cure one condition? I dunno, bros. Help me out here.

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Posted by: aathomas.4638

aathomas.4638

We talked about this on Sunday’s Adrenaline Rising. The conditions should really be cleansed on-cast not on-hit for it to be useful.

That’d be considered too strong I’m sure. It would be wonderful though!

Yeah, I was thinking about that as I was writing it out. I was gonna suggest moving it to Grandmaster but then most Warriors would get pigeonholed into 30 Defense. Maybe make it only cure one condition? I dunno, bros. Help me out here.

I think its perfectly fine how it is. Good players will blind you while your bursting so either removing at cast or after wont make a difference. Blinds that get spammed on you, you can just remove with a dodge role or auto attack before bursting.

The trait really will require one to think during play to use it effectively and probably will take a bit for warriors to get use to. If you use the burst-skill to snare/stun to set up a damage burst then by all means use the burst-skill once you remove blind to remove 3 conditions allowing you an easier follow up damage burst. If you use the axe/rifle burst-skill then just make sure you remove weakness or wait it out before use. If you use traits that increase damage/precision while having full adrenaline, now your choice between keeping that damage/precision or removing a large stack of bleed/torment/burn is that much more interesting. Though it has always been my personal opinion that any builds that saves adrenaline is inherently weak in pvp, even before the patch.

It has good reward for using it appropriately without it being overpowered.

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Posted by: XII.9401

XII.9401

We talked about this on Sunday’s Adrenaline Rising. The conditions should really be cleansed on-cast not on-hit for it to be useful.

That’d be considered too strong I’m sure. It would be wonderful though!

Uh huh..too strong? tell me how your just right effect of Cleansing ire is gonna help you in competitive tourneys..oh right..it won’t..

Constantly amazed at how bad warriors enjoy getting smashed in high end tourneys/not invited to begin with and thing everything is fine and dandy. Truly..warrior forums..the joke of every other class.

Nobody cares about your roaming adventures in WvW. sPvP is where the balance is.

Your posts started 19 days ago. Is that when you became an expert in warrior balance? When you rolled one?

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Posted by: IDarko.4709

IDarko.4709

I like how you think that the lead pvp designer has anything to say XII. The pve and wvw also have, if not more influence on the balance of skills, unfortunately.

j/k, but i just don’t get Anet sometimes.

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Posted by: Orangensaft.7139

Orangensaft.7139

conditions should be removed for building up adrenaline :/

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Posted by: JETWING.2759

JETWING.2759

I burn my adrenaline all time with burst, then the changes are goods

The problem is needs contact for triger the trait hability.

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Posted by: Segev.4108

Segev.4108

This is officially my favorite trait ever. If you combine it in a good adrenaline build you barely need any other form of condi removal tools.

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Posted by: Epic.3950

Epic.3950

Ive rolled both of them since this morning. Anet didnt kitten up on it. It cleanses for the amount of phases you have build not the inverse amount you have left over