Cleric's Banner Build WvW Impressions

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Posted by: Stratos.4906

Stratos.4906

Last night I decided to try something new. I went with Draconic Cleric’s armor with Runes of Dwayna, Cleric’s Trinkets with Exquisite Sapphires, and Cleric’s weapons. Ran a build of 10/0/30/30. Used mostly the Banner Damage skill from Strength, Defensive traits from the Defense line(duh)…don’t recall specifically which I used, and the Banner buffs from the Traits tree with Stronger Bowstrings for added range. Went with the Longbow over the rifle for the F1 skill so that I could create my own blast finishers with the banners. Off hand was sword/shield and slots were Regen signet plus ALL banners.

We were getting blitzed pretty badly on Kaineng for a while so I was spamming the Regen from the Banner of Tactics and Fury from the Banner of Discipline to support those around me. Off and on I was using my Longow to deliver damage, nothing major but I really was not expecting that. Lots of pushing back and forth for about an hour. I could see my Regen was ticking in the 300s on my allies around me. Not bad, and the Fury was always welcome as well. I even beat down a few opponents with my banner for laughs and damage was decent. The +Healing really helped, both myself and those around me. Revived a lot of allies while being pelted from range which didn’t put too much of a dent in my health unless I was focused on. Even when focused I was able to get away most of the time.

The most interesting development was when an enemy Guardian and myself battled 1v1. I figured what the heck and engaged. He couldn’t take me down and I clearly had the upper hand with all of the banners down as he for some reason engaged me on my terms as opposed to trying to draw me away from the banners. It ended with him running off and me joining up with the closest Zerg.

Overall I enjoyed the tactical side of the experience as I needed to think things through differently. I might consider dropping the Runes of Dwayna for the Sapphire Orbs. I would lose 40 Healing but gain 84 Power/Toughness. Might be worth it but I have not done the math yet. Might also consider a combo of Monk and Water for increased Boon Duration on the Regen and Fury.

In closing I would not recommend a build like this unless you already had most of the items available to you. I didn’t really need to buy much and already had all of the mats for the Draconic armor. You really need to be OK with being a support platform because that’s all that you really are. You deliver decent damage at best and are pretty much a bulls eye when on your own. The build excelled in keep defense/assault and in the Zerg. Condition removal was non-existent so I may grab a Warhorn and switch the ranged to rifle. I will lose the self created blast finishers but being able to remove the conditions would really help. I will also try dropping a banner for shake it off. I also did not have any Sigils in my weapons. Did not want to commit the $$ yet. If you guys have any questions about my experience feel free to ask.

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Posted by: ArtemisEntreri.4138

ArtemisEntreri.4138

I thought about a similar build to yours but with shouts and banner of tactics. monk/ water/ dwayna runes for 100% regen duration with the chocolate omnomberry food. FGJ and shake it off + quick breathing for cond removal. The plan was to cast the regen from the banner and use vigorous shouts for burst healing. Longbow for dps. sword + warhorn for mobility. I may try it when I get the spare gold to buy everything.

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Posted by: Forzani.2584

Forzani.2584

I haven’t really tried banners. How do you keep regen and fury up ? You drop all 3 banners on the ground, then pick up a different banner, use the skill, drop it, then pick up a different banner ? rinse/repeat ?

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Posted by: Stratos.4906

Stratos.4906

Forzani,
Yes but that was only in certain situations. You need to judge the situation and verify what you need more. With the banner traits all of your banners grant regen. However when we were being pushed I used the regen banner to apply the regen to as many people as I could. If I didn’t see a need for that I was spamming the Fury or setting down the banners and plinking away with the longbow.

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Posted by: Lahm.7056

Lahm.7056

I run a similar build, but with a mix of condition damage/precision, I end up having close to 1400 healing power with food and roughly 1100 condition damage along with 28% crit chance (Signet of Rage as elite to boost it up during combat) the only downside is the extreme lack of critical damage from either gear or traits since I go 0/10/30/30/0 with sword/shield + Longbow.

Since I enjoy roaming more than anything, there’s not much use having more than one banner at the time, so I stick to the banner of tactics for heal & regen since I have heal on shout and extra CD trait for the other two shout utilities FGJ & SIO which give a nice 2.4k heal on every 20 and something seconds or so, also as a heal I pack Healing Signet because of the passive healing which coupled with 315 regen ticks will give an estimated +550 health per second giving amazing sustainability along with damage nullifiers like Defy pain trait and Shield 5.

It does fairly well in 1v1, the effective counter is indeed condition removals so Guards will be always tough nuts but it doesn’t mean you’ll die too, if I see the fight is going nowhere, I simply CC and get off. Against bursty and conditions removal lackers I normally have the upper hand if they overcommit.

This build deviation is maybe more effective in solo play but in a group setting, yours is probably better at supporting, nonetheless it’s nice to see more Warriors trying different builds other than “burst or die”.

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Posted by: Stratos.4906

Stratos.4906

Lahm,
I like the mixed approach but not sure I would rely too much on conditions……but that’s just my personal experience. If possible I would look to also add the Banner of Discipline if you want more crit. The Banner gives 170 precision, 15% crit damage and when you use Furious Rally you will get 8(boon duration increase if you have any) seconds of Fury which is 20% increased crit chance. Not bad, and may free up some other stats for you. Regardless of all this I always say, go with what works for you.

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Posted by: Forzani.2584

Forzani.2584

I run a similar build, but with a mix of condition damage/precision, I end up having close to 1400 healing power with food and roughly 1100 condition damage along with 28% crit chance (Signet of Rage as elite to boost it up during combat) the only downside is the extreme lack of critical damage from either gear or traits since I go 0/10/30/30/0 with sword/shield + Longbow.

Since I enjoy roaming more than anything, there’s not much use having more than one banner at the time,* so I stick to the banner of tactics for heal & regen since I have heal on shout* and extra CD trait for the other two shout utilities FGJ & SIO which give a nice 2.4k heal on every 20 and something seconds or so, also as a heal I pack Healing Signet because of the passive healing which coupled with 315 regen ticks will give an estimated +550 health per second giving amazing sustainability along with damage nullifiers like Defy pain trait and Shield 5.

It does fairly well in 1v1, the effective counter is indeed condition removals so Guards will be always tough nuts but it doesn’t mean you’ll die too, if I see the fight is going nowhere, I simply CC and get off. Against bursty and conditions removal lackers I normally have the upper hand if they overcommit.

This build deviation is maybe more effective in solo play but in a group setting, yours is probably better at supporting, nonetheless it’s nice to see more Warriors trying different builds other than “burst or die”.

How do you get both banner regen and shout heals ? Both are tactic traits 11+12 and you only get one of them ?

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Posted by: AinSoph.5063

AinSoph.5063

How do you get both banner regen and shout heals ? Both are tactic traits 11+12 and you only get one of them ?

He was talking about using the Banner of Tactics #2 skill for regen, while spec’d for Healing Shouts.

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