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Posted by: Savoy.6824

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Any body having success playing a bleeding condition warrior? By success I mean having a good kill/death ration in wvw. I am only lvl 45 and do not have the most awesome gear yet but I am having fun with the spec. I love slashing something with my sword then being able to retreat and have it die while chasing me. So far I have had more success in PvE Then PvP though. And Ive seen videos of warriors that use duel axes and a great sword do better. I am aware that that is a glass cannon build and im ok with that. I was just hoping to find something different but comperable to that build so that I would not be like every other glass cannon.

I typically carry a main hand sword, off hand axe. And I carry a rifle as my alternate weapon. Ive put points into 15 points into Arms, 10 to Defense, and 10 to tactics. Tactics was so that I could run faster while carrying melee weapons.

If you are having success running a condition warrior, did you go with different trait lines; are you using two swords to get extra bleeding; did you really ramp up your gear with condition buffs instead of power and precision? These are the things im wondering?

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Posted by: Osred.3864

Osred.3864

In single small scale fights they can rock house in pve because mobs dont have condition removal.

Bleed needs a bit of twEeking for larger fights. Only 20 stacks. You wont be piling out the damage when there are several players trying to do the same with bleed.

In pvp theres no points. There is massive abundance of condition removal. Your bleed stack is gone and you’ll be building it up for it to be removed again seconds.

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Posted by: Pachuri.2014

Pachuri.2014

Bleed needs a bit of twEeking for larger fights. Only 20 stacks. You wont be piling out the damage when there are several players trying to do the same with bleed.

I hope you realize that every player causing bleeding damage does their own “ticks” of bleeding damage.

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Posted by: Osred.3864

Osred.3864

Bleed needs a bit of twEeking for larger fights. Only 20 stacks. You wont be piling out the damage when there are several players trying to do the same with bleed.

I hope you realize that every player causing bleeding damage does their own “ticks” of bleeding damage.

ofcourse. Still doesnt change the fact its weak in large fights.

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Posted by: Feuer Liebt Mich.8524

Feuer Liebt Mich.8524

I do Sword/Horn with a focus on conditions, especially bleed and cripple. My main trait lines are Tactics and Arms. With it, I have zero problem in smaller skirmishes. Plus, I can take on 3 or 4 of the fleshier classes at once by myself most of the time.

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Posted by: Feuer Liebt Mich.8524

Feuer Liebt Mich.8524

Oh, and my gear is mostly Condition Damage +x% and Precision +x.

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Posted by: Pachuri.2014

Pachuri.2014

ofcourse. Still doesnt change the fact its weak.

Doing 70-80 bleeding damage with 20-25 stacks of bleed does a lot of damage to enemies. Also you do 10% more damage to bleeding targets if you have 25 points into arms which is also really good.

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Posted by: alocay.2450

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The videos you saw of ppl using axes and GS’s are in sPvP or WvWvW? I find using melee in WvWvW pretty difficult as a Warrior until the fighting dissipates a bit. Running into a large mob to deal melee damage usually doesn’t end very well :P.

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Posted by: Savoy.6824

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@alocay the videos were actually in sPvP but I was hoping it would translate somewhat. I can deffinitly say that every time I have leap (using the skill) into a hoard of enimies that I most deffinitly got owned, but I did make them crap their pants for a second and my friends who I was trying to protect got away (usually the reason, I go for the suicide drop in the first place) and I ocassionaly even manage to drop one.

So yea that doesnt work and probalby wouldnt be fair if it did, but yea when Im fighting those 2 or 3 squishies on the outer rim of the zerg hoard (I love going after the people who try to flank our hoard, even if Im by myself) I do ok with this build. Of course it depends on a lot, like the others guys skill and mine, and what gear they have/what class they are. And if my thief friend is in the area to help back me up. Its hard to say.

Anyway I think Im going to give @Feuer Liebt Mich horn idea a try. Could be fun. But yeh, when im not chasing down the people that love to flank, Im usually on my rifle shooting into the hoard.

As much as I would love to re-enact the scene from 300 where Leonidas bull dozes through 30 persians, Im sure that wouldnt be fair and balanced to other players if the warriro class had a build that could do that, so Im not looking for that. Just want to be more effective against those darn flankers.

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Posted by: Edewen.8304

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Can someone explain to me how bleeds work in big group fights because I’m a bit confused. I was considering a bleed build sword based warrior but every time i see a big boss, they have full bleed stacks. does that mean I’m essentially useless?

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Posted by: alocay.2450

alocay.2450

Can someone explain to me how bleeds work in big group fights because I’m a bit confused. I was considering a bleed build sword based warrior but every time i see a big boss, they have full bleed stacks. does that mean I’m essentially useless?

I’m not sure what you’re asking. Are you referring to the cap on condition stacks on the large PVE bosses?

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Posted by: Edewen.8304

Edewen.8304

Yes. As in, there are so many people that bleed based builds become useless because you are doing no damage with bleeds. or is this not the case.