Could Quickness be a solution ?

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Posted by: Crash.5362

Crash.5362

To Warrior’s issue with overly telegraphed attacks?

If somehow Frenzy or that Trait that gives as quickness (Or maybe, if in the expansion, we’d get some sort of new trait or utility skill that gives us quickness) would that make Warriors more decent on 1v1 ?

Current Warrior’s role on Spvp is just teamfighting as Hambow or Shoutbow. His 1v1 efficiency is average at best, almost fully thanks to how easy it is to dodge his attacks. Specially as Hammer, Mace or Axe (Eviscerate)…

I really like the way the animations look, but it is frustrating how slow and telegraphed they are. Maybe there is hope if using Quickness would become viable via a Buff somehow… IN fact, has anyone tried it in pvp before ?
I heard people saying that its just not worth using it, and never seen a build including it.

I dont know, I just would like to not feel like I’m being toyed with everytime I fight a 1v1 battle against an actual good player. Sometimes I manage to win nonetheless, through counting their dodges or stun-chaining… But really, even when I win, I still get frustrated at how much I got dodged around, and the truth is, there is nothing we can do about it since its not about timing or placement, if you’re using hammer, for instance, all your attatcks are easilly dodgeable. You simply gotta sacrifice some skills so you can land one or other at some point.

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Posted by: akaCryptic.2389

akaCryptic.2389

Access to quickness is very limited being sigil trait or frenzy. With the first two, you cant always control when its gonna proc. Frenzy is just sacrificing an important utility bar but can still be useful in yolo builds.
For serious gamplay though, 1 hit skills like evis or earthshaker must be comboed by a cc. Other classes like ele have to do a ton of things to get damage, it would just be too easy for the warrior. Channelled skills like 100b or whirling axe could benefit greatly from quickness. But a decent opponent would port away or mitigate it somehow and youd end up with a cooldown on your bar. You can always experiment with quickness and make it your playstyle. I did with sigil of rage on GS and if procced at right time, it did wonders but ofc it was not sustainable.

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Posted by: Simon.3794

Simon.3794

quickness is not the option, because warrior’s skill doesnt simply do enough burst for it to matter.

it’s small damage over time that matters.

i can face tank a frenzy killshot and not give a kitten.

frenzy used to be decent with 100% speed increase
but now it’s just meh.

not to mention that trait is grand master, thief has some thing better at master.

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Posted by: BlackTruth.6813

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I guess frenzy provides instant stomps like it always did. And it makes baiting dodges easier. I played it very impractically in the video but I would say you need a little bit of something to make Frenzy Warrior work again.

But mostly mechanics is what makes Frenzy work. Like you actually need to know how to bait cool downs and dodges at the same time.

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Posted by: Caedmon.6798

Caedmon.6798

quickness is not the option, because warrior’s skill doesnt simply do enough burst for it to matter.

it’s small damage over time that matters.

i can face tank a frenzy killshot and not give a kitten.

frenzy used to be decent with 100% speed increase
but now it’s just meh.

not to mention that trait is grand master, thief has some thing better at master.

Have fun “facetanking” a zerk warr on quickness with 25 might autoattacking u with axe.

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Posted by: Crash.5362

Crash.5362

I guess frenzy provides instant stomps like it always did. And it makes baiting dodges easier. I played it very impractically in the video but I would say you need a little bit of something to make Frenzy Warrior work again.

But mostly mechanics is what makes Frenzy work. Like you actually need to know how to bait cool downs and dodges at the same time.

This was so entretaining to watch. Lol.
That was nice XD makes me wanna try something like that

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Posted by: Simon.3794

Simon.3794

quickness is not the option, because warrior’s skill doesnt simply do enough burst for it to matter.

it’s small damage over time that matters.

i can face tank a frenzy killshot and not give a kitten.

frenzy used to be decent with 100% speed increase
but now it’s just meh.

not to mention that trait is grand master, thief has some thing better at master.

Have fun “facetanking” a zerk warr on quickness with 25 might autoattacking u with axe.

lets add 25 vulernability and being naked while talking situations like this, shall we.

and i seriously don’t know why if some one can face tank a fully hundred blade and still rez people up can not tank a full axe auto and still rez people up. axe auto only gets better dps over time…

also by your logic, no body can facetank 25 might 25 vulernability hundred blades
hundred blades op now, nerf please.
killshot too op hit too much with 25 might nerf please, 25 might too op nerf please.
evis hit too much with 25 might nerf please.
rampage hit too much with 25 might totally op in tpvp, they reckt me one hit ko, to stronk for me nerf please.
everything hit to high with 25 might, we should just delete warrior, thank you.

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