Guild Wars 2

1. Engi hammer dmg has 2.3 times higher dps than warrior’s hammer at same amulet (even tho you add elite skill, ES, engi still does higher DPS around 2x), while engi also be able to reflect, cc and block, not just only cc like warrior.

2. Currently only following warrior weapon set can make viable DPS:
-Greatsword/Axe-shield
-Sword-torch/mace-shield in Berserker mode only
-Rifle

Other weapon not listed above (including none zerker mode of sword-torch/mace-shield) all sucks in terms of DPS or sometimes even functionality, and need to be all buffed.

Functionality is also bad, for example,
Mace & Hammer doesn’t work since HoT provides many other classes almost-perma stability to reaper, tempest, zerker, engi and etc. So those kinda weapons set has no DPS as well as functionality is bad as well.

hope dev can normalize everything! thx

Yeah, Engineer hammer is pretty much superior to Warrior hammer in almost every possible way right now. They didn’t mention any hammer buffs specifically, but here’s hoping that they will do something to Rupturing Smash to help out.

I thought we went over this. Engie only has medium armor.

Ross Biddle.2367:

I thought we went over this. Engie only has medium armor.

Medium armor has nothing to do with the problem since any warrior build with hammer can’t win scrapper build. if we would be able to fight aginst them evenly with our hammer, i wouldn’t say this tho. (cuz currently war sucks than scrapper generally)

I play an engineer main (warrior is my 2nd most played profession) and I agree that engineer hammer is overpowered at the moment. I rarely see engineers choosing rifle anymore and pistol/shield engis are all gone. Scrapper hammer engi is literally > core engi in spvp/WvWvW.

Warrior hammer still offers more CC than any other weapon set in the game, but engineer hammer just has too much goodies:

good DPS, might stacking, reflect, triple leap, whirl finisher, block, 1200 ranged AoE stun and lighting strike. Merely adding a 2 second CD to one of the skills is not enough. The triple leap needs to be changed to just 1 leap and several skills need 2-5 second CD increases or reduction of damage (utility + DPS at same is too much).

After these changes I think engi/warrior hammer would be in balance. Warrior hammer doesn’t need damage increase, since it offers so insane amount of CC. I don’t like that one weapon offers both insane amounts of CC + good DPS. You just can choose one.

But other warrior weapons are currently in sad state:
- warhorn (the numerous nerfs made it so weak, Arenanet should consider reverting the changes or at least make warhorn #5 more useful e.g. make it more offensive instead of just giving a short AoE weakness)
- off hand axe needs something more, maybe a reflect or evade for axe #5

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Ross Biddle.2367:

I thought we went over this. Engie only has medium armor.

Medium armor has nothing to do with the problem since any warrior build with hammer can’t win scrapper build. if we would be able to fight aginst them evenly with our hammer, i wouldn’t say this tho. (cuz currently war sucks than scrapper generally)

Need I point out… medium hp’s.

well having bunch of cc doesn’t that much work well after HoT honestly, as compared to core. Becuz too many classes now have a lot of stability that stays for a long time such as reaper, zerker, tempest and etc. (i think even scrapper has stability now)

Tons of slows and blindness after hot also contributed making warrior hammer sucks ever than before.

becuz of that, rather than bunch of cc i would prefer engi’s diversity of hammer effect.

But i still do think that warrior hammer dps was bad even in core, and that is why gs/axe-shield is developed & used in pvp meta after people found that gs/hammer couldn’t be able to beat dd cele ele (due to lack of dps)

It’s won’t make a difference once engi sustain is brought down your going to plow right through them unless they bunker down and in that case that hammer of theirs isn’t going to hit that hard.

Issue you see with scraper is this class can go mara amulet or something and have no issues. Sounds like that going to change in adition to several nerfs.

That being said hammer can use some pre cast and after cast changes and some baseline CD redux to it.

They should nerf Warrior hammer because its far superior to guardian hammer….

Be careful what you wish for. If you start comparing 1v1. Warrior still has unmatched mobility, stability, hp, armor and cc.

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Ross Biddle.2367:

I thought we went over this. Engie only has medium armor.

Medium armor has nothing to do with the problem since any warrior build with hammer can’t win scrapper build. if we would be able to fight aginst them evenly with our hammer, i wouldn’t say this tho. (cuz currently war sucks than scrapper generally)

Need I point out… medium hp’s.

I’m not entirely sure how anyone with an ounce of brain power can say this kind of thing unironically when the 2 most survivable builds, in the current meta even, are Tempest and Chrono who both have Light Armour and Lowest/Medium HP respectively

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Ross Biddle.2367:

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Ross Biddle.2367:

I thought we went over this. Engie only has medium armor.

Medium armor has nothing to do with the problem since any warrior build with hammer can’t win scrapper build. if we would be able to fight aginst them evenly with our hammer, i wouldn’t say this tho. (cuz currently war sucks than scrapper generally)

Need I point out… medium hp’s.

I’m not entirely sure how anyone with an ounce of brain power can say this kind of thing unironically when the 2 most survivable builds, in the current meta even, are Tempest and Chrono who both have Light Armour and Lowest/Medium HP respectively

You seem like an intelligent fellow.

Evidently, brain power cannot always account for wit :D

Good day!

Ross Biddle.2367:

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Ross Biddle.2367:

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Ross Biddle.2367:

I thought we went over this. Engie only has medium armor.

Medium armor has nothing to do with the problem since any warrior build with hammer can’t win scrapper build. if we would be able to fight aginst them evenly with our hammer, i wouldn’t say this tho. (cuz currently war sucks than scrapper generally)

Need I point out… medium hp’s.

I’m not entirely sure how anyone with an ounce of brain power can say this kind of thing unironically when the 2 most survivable builds, in the current meta even, are Tempest and Chrono who both have Light Armour and Lowest/Medium HP respectively

You seem like an intelligent fellow.

Evidently, brain power cannot always account for wit

Good day!

In all fairness, Armor and HP amount is nowhere near as important as having access to protection and damage reducing traits, which Engi has in spades. It also has good healing overall AND with Hammer blocks and reflects.

The only reason Engi Hammer hits so hard is because PvE players complained that it would be useless if the damage was low. Clearly they went overboard because at best it should be comparable with rifle (if they sit in the AoE), not exceeding it.

I say this as someone who is only not a Engi main because my full Ascended set is on Warrior.

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Ross Biddle.2367:

Jzaku.9765:

Ross Biddle.2367:

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Ross Biddle.2367:

I thought we went over this. Engie only has medium armor.

Medium armor has nothing to do with the problem since any warrior build with hammer can’t win scrapper build. if we would be able to fight aginst them evenly with our hammer, i wouldn’t say this tho. (cuz currently war sucks than scrapper generally)

Need I point out… medium hp’s.

I’m not entirely sure how anyone with an ounce of brain power can say this kind of thing unironically when the 2 most survivable builds, in the current meta even, are Tempest and Chrono who both have Light Armour and Lowest/Medium HP respectively

You seem like an intelligent fellow.

Evidently, brain power cannot always account for wit :D

Good day!

In all fairness, Armor and HP amount is nowhere near as important as having access to protection and damage reducing traits, which Engi has in spades. It also has good healing overall AND with Hammer blocks and reflects.

The only reason Engi Hammer hits so hard is because PvE players complained that it would be useless if the damage was low. Clearly they went overboard because at best it should be comparable with rifle (if they sit in the AoE), not exceeding it.

I say this as someone who is only not a Engi main because my full Ascended set is on Warrior.

Exactly! Even raising the points of Medium armor/hp are so silly it’d be audacious to even consider someones being serious when bringing them up as points of contention.

:D

actually what i want is just equalizes all fundamental hp, toughness of every classes by 15000 and 2400, respectively. (this actually makes anet balance classes easier)

Anyway, weapons not listed above (like mace, for example) cannot make not just viable dps but also good effects as well since perma-like stability is introduced by berzerker, tempest, reaper and etc.. they all become really useless after hot.

That’s why i think why we need buff on every other weapon sets except above list as well.

Kontrolle.3514:

They should nerf Warrior hammer because its far superior to guardian hammer….

Be careful what you wish for. If you start comparing 1v1. Warrior still has unmatched mobility, stability, hp, armor and cc.

Warrior has unmatched mobility – I laughed.

Kontrolle.3514:

They should nerf Warrior hammer because its far superior to guardian hammer….

Be careful what you wish for. If you start comparing 1v1. Warrior still has unmatched mobility, stability, hp, armor and cc.

Say hi to daredevil and druid. Warrior is inferior to many classes in terms of mobility after mobility patch (swiftness and other movement impending boons/condis do not affect mobility skills anymore).
Or were you just sarcastic?

Kontrolle.3514:
They should nerf Warrior hammer because its far superior to guardian hammer….
Be careful what you wish for. If you start comparing 1v1. Warrior still has unmatched mobility, stability, hp, armor and cc.

I can see i’m going to have to put you on the same page as the rest of the warrior community. Warrior has access tot he following as far as mobility.

• Charges/leaps/movement skills
• Swiftness
• Stability/stun breaks/ immobilize breaks.

Every other class in the game has.

• Charges/leaps/movement skills
• Swiftness
• Teleports/shadowrteps

Notable classes also have extras like

• Extended dodge range
• Teleports with evades built in
• access to superspeed.

I’m not here to insult but you do not know what you are talking about when you say warriors are unmatched in mobility

But guard hammer is even worse than warrior hammer. Should they Nerf engi and warrior hammer to be on the level of the guardian or buff warrior and guard?

Timston.1976:

But guard hammer is even worse than warrior hammer. Should they Nerf engi and warrior hammer to be on the level of the guardian or buff warrior and guard?

Guardian hammer is not worse than warrior hammer. Basically guardian hammer is for support job (espeically in teamfight) while warrior hammer is for mainly to fight. Do you remember guardian hammer meta long time ago? role is different i mean. Of course in 1vs1 warrior hammer works better becuz role is different. But don’t judge that guardian hammer sucks due to it only weak in 1vs1. Guardian hammer works better than warrior hammer in teamfight. The designed way how to use is different.