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Posted by: PaulBarty.1630

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Q:

Hi,

I started playing a while ago as GS/rifle warrior, it was great but It doesnt seem that great. Im using dual axes now to see if I like it more than the GS. what is better for casual pve? and can you tell me any decent builds for double axe/rifle warrior? cheers guys

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Posted by: ProxyDamage.9826

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For PvE of any kind: Greatsword. Warrior’s Greatsword is the single greatest PvE weapon in the game. if “it doesn’t seem that great” to you, you’re doing something horribly wrong.

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Posted by: PaulBarty.1630

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Well whats a good PvE gs/rifle build for a warrior?

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Posted by: ProxyDamage.9826

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Well whats a good PvE gs/rifle build for a warrior?

Actually, if you’re pure PvE I’d recommend Greatsword/Longbow, due to AoE.

10/25/20/0/15 is mine. Works for PvE and PvP, and you can easily sub in any other weapon-set by just changing the traits.

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Posted by: PaulBarty.1630

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Oh fair enough, thanks, ill give it a shot

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Posted by: Sil.4560

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Or just run something like 20/30/0/0/20 and come crashing down on all of PvE like a tidal wave of blood and nightmares.

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Posted by: PaulBarty.1630

PaulBarty.1630

Well whats a good PvE gs/rifle build for a warrior?

Actually, if you’re pure PvE I’d recommend Greatsword/Longbow, due to AoE.

10/25/20/0/15 is mine. Works for PvE and PvP, and you can easily sub in any other weapon-set by just changing the traits.

Which traits should i use?

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Posted by: PaulBarty.1630

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Or just run something like 20/30/0/0/20 and come crashing down on all of PvE like a tidal wave of blood and nightmares.

I change my mind, that sounds like a plan xD

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Posted by: naphack.9346

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Well whats a good PvE gs/rifle build for a warrior?

Actually, if you’re pure PvE I’d recommend Greatsword/Longbow, due to AoE.

10/25/20/0/15 is mine. Works for PvE and PvP, and you can easily sub in any other weapon-set by just changing the traits.

Which traits should i use?

I run 10/20/25/0/15, but that’s because I have full cavalier trinkets(with zerk jewels tho) and PTV armor, so my toughness is pretty much maxed out.
Anyway, with this build, you can run hammer, GS, Rifle, Mace/shield and some minor ones which I don’t regard as that useful.
Basically, you can run GS+M/S with Bullcharge, Bolas and a stunbreaker and switch to a hammer stance build, a rifle build, whatever. Anything goes with this setup.

Skeleton build: 10/20/20/0/10, put the remaining 10 points as you like.
Good traits:
TOUGHNESS LINE:
Hammer: Merciless hammer, stance duration
Mace/Shield(actually X/shield): Reflect, shield trait
With the patch, here might be room for improvement, as there will be an interesting trait in here.

PREC LINE:
the 10 pt trait as you like, 20 point trait depending on whether you run GS or Rifle.

For the other 2 traitlines, for now just grab the stuff, which gives you damage/crit depending on your adren level and switch them out if you need something special(like might from blocking/getting blocked, adren from shouts, etc) isntead.

The only crime, turrets committed, is being good against the celestial meta.
The mob has spoken and the turrets shall be burnt at the stake.

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Posted by: Alphik.5327

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Cursed shore farming:
GS/axe+wh (or double axes), 20-30-0-0-20 (or 25-25-0-0-20), MF gear

COF p1:
GS/axe+wh (or axe+mace), 20-30-0-0-20, berserk gear

Map opening:
GS/axe+wh (or sword+wh), 20-30-0-0-20, berserk gear

Fractals:

  • DPS build: GS/rifle on bosses and melee unfriendly trash; GS/axe+wh on meleeable trash, 20-30-0-0-20, berserk gear
  • Support build: there are many varieties, but the core of the build is 30 into tactics (healing shouts or banner regen), and possible weapon sets include GS/rifle, GS/longbow, axe+wh/rifle, axe+wh/longbow, GS/axe+wh (on meleeable trash), knights gear (or mixed knight/zerk gear). My favorite support build is 10-10-0-30-20, axe+wh/longbow.

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Posted by: Nuorus.8415

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Gaah don’t be so ignorant. GS is mobility burst weapon. Axe (mainhand) is dps weapon (not mobile). Yes Hundred blades does out burst axe auto attack but while it’s on cd autoattack on axe will make more damage. Also when the target moves out of your HB your dps will fall dramaticaly. Axe has no problem with moving targets. Axe’s weakness is on PvP while it’s best weapon for PvE. GS and Axe are kinda bouth good in PvP but not best. If you don’t want to have ranged weapon gs and axe will provide the max dps together.

Feel free to argue with me. You learn something every time and it develops your personality.

People seems using word “trolling” out of context way too often…

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Posted by: Alphik.5327

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GS/axe+smth allows u to benefit both from GS non-AA abilities (100b for max damage, whirl for high aoe and single target dps + extra evade and mobility, gs#4 for aoe damage and slow, gs#5 for mobility) and from axe AA while GS abilities are on cd (or not needed in current situation). Due to a 5 second cd on weapon swap its possible to use gs abilities, then swap to axe for an increased AA damage (and burst on bosses), then swap back to GS (100b will be off the cd if u have a 20% reduced skill cd, and whirl will be ready after u land a 100b) and so on…

That guy asked about PvE only, and the only place where u need a ranged weapon in PvE is FOTM (and ofc some random champions or world events like jormag or temples).

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Posted by: naphack.9346

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^He asked for casual PvE, so his build doesn’t matter anyway. This is not a game, where the PvE content destroys you, if your build is too weak. You can faceroll over about anything, as long as your equip has the right level.
And in casual PvE, having a ranged option is always good, because you will not be power farming only specific events, but rather go up against lots of different enemies.
I do not want to go up in melee against some champion inquest golem which knocks me back and spams me to death with rockets whenever I enter melee. I really do not.

The only crime, turrets committed, is being good against the celestial meta.
The mob has spoken and the turrets shall be burnt at the stake.

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Posted by: Alphik.5327

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I do not want to go up in melee against some champion inquest golem which knocks me back and spams me to death with rockets whenever I enter melee. I really do not.

I was talking about that when i said:

the only place where u need a ranged weapon in PvE is FOTM (and ofc some random champions or world events like jormag or temples).

In casual PvE u will barely meet any significant difficulties and i dont see any reason to use ranged weapons in fights vs common single mobs or small groups of them. Build still matters if u wanna do things faster. Ofc u can wear and use everything, for example healing/toughness/vit armor, mace + sword and charzooka as an elite skill if u like the looks of that, but do u wanna kill things for ages? Axe/GS gives u best damage output and good mobility, and zerk gear helps u kill things asap. Just keep a rifle in the inventory and replace GS with it when u need some ranged damage.

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Posted by: ProxyDamage.9826

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Gaah don’t be so ignorant. GS is mobility burst weapon. Axe (mainhand) is dps weapon (not mobile). Yes Hundred blades does out burst axe auto attack but while it’s on cd autoattack on axe will make more damage. Also when the target moves out of your HB your dps will fall dramaticaly. Axe has no problem with moving targets. Axe’s weakness is on PvP while it’s best weapon for PvE. GS and Axe are kinda bouth good in PvP but not best. If you don’t want to have ranged weapon gs and axe will provide the max dps together.

Now who’s being ignorant? We’re talking PvE. In PvE GS is unmatched. The DPS you get out of Hundred Blades (which the mobs don’t know better to avoid) is unparalleled. On top of that you get a third, 8 second cooldown, high AoE damage dodge because of whirlwind. Everything else, like Might stacking, is just gravy.

In PvP, where you won’t land HB roughly ever, Axes get higher DPS (whether they’re better weapons or not is a whole different deal).

Axes are quite good in PvE. WAY more than enough for all PvE content. In fact, they’d be the best PvE weapon… except for the Greatsword. GS simply eclipses everything else in PvE. If you can’t see it then you don’t know how to use it.

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Posted by: Sil.4560

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I just run GS/Axe+WH for most of PvE, although in places like fractals and dungeons I’ll swap the horn for a shield or mace, or swap both out for a rifle or bow, depending on the situation. Nothing wrong with carrying extra stuff in your bag.

If you were curious at all, Paul, I run mostly Zerk/Knight gear, though I left the legendaries as Soldier with the swap offhand usually as Valk. I really enjoy this setup and have been using it for as long as I can remember. Very high damage, but more survivable than your typical pure glass setups while still encouraging an active and attentive playstyle. =)

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Posted by: Nuorus.8415

Nuorus.8415

Gaah don’t be so ignorant. GS is mobility burst weapon. Axe (mainhand) is dps weapon (not mobile). Yes Hundred blades does out burst axe auto attack but while it’s on cd autoattack on axe will make more damage. Also when the target moves out of your HB your dps will fall dramaticaly. Axe has no problem with moving targets. Axe’s weakness is on PvP while it’s best weapon for PvE. GS and Axe are kinda bouth good in PvP but not best. If you don’t want to have ranged weapon gs and axe will provide the max dps together.

Now who’s being ignorant? We’re talking PvE. In PvE GS is unmatched. The DPS you get out of Hundred Blades (which the mobs don’t know better to avoid) is unparalleled. On top of that you get a third, 8 second cooldown, high AoE damage dodge because of whirlwind. Everything else, like Might stacking, is just gravy.

In PvP, where you won’t land HB roughly ever, Axes get higher DPS (whether they’re better weapons or not is a whole different deal).

Axes are quite good in PvE. WAY more than enough for all PvE content. In fact, they’d be the best PvE weapon… except for the Greatsword. GS simply eclipses everything else in PvE. If you can’t see it then you don’t know how to use it.

You just proved you are one of the ignorants. HB does out burst but axe will go pass it. Let me guess. You don’t know the attack speed of the axe or you don’t know how to stack might on axe/x? Or maybe you think the last hit on HB is just another damage number and not the total damage. If you do little search on warrior forums you might find a post about someone testing axe and GS. Also the Anet said axe/axe is the best setup for single target dps.

Feel free to argue with me. You learn something every time and it develops your personality.

People seems using word “trolling” out of context way too often…