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Posted by: Swagman.9013

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Basically this is just a petition to the fine folks of Anet to ask if they could include a warrior elite skill shout in an upcoming patch.

Basically warrior utility skills break down into 4 categories, physical, banners, signets and shouts. With the trait bonuses giving added buffs to them respectively. Now with warrior elite skills we have a banner, signet, and physical but no shout.

I am very partial to using shouts in PVE and my spec buffs my shouts as well. I was thinking something along the lines of,

Warcry/Battlecry
Boons to allies in area; might, fury, stability, regeneration
Conditions to enemies in area; vulnerability, cripple, weakness

i dont think thats too overpowered seeing as the banner gives those plus it revives allies from downed the tradeoff of course being that you can add some offensive abilities against enemies.

If anyone thinks this is too much or might think of a way to better implement it please feel free to say so.

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Posted by: Niroy.2367

Niroy.2367

Ooo I’d like to see an elite shout too. So I can abuse the trait that makes your shout heal even more :P

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Posted by: Ari Kagura.9182

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“This is my Elite Skill!” Shout. Grant an awesome boon to you and your allies, while foes are confused by your great announcement.

Seriously, I would like an Elite Shout as well. Maybe not with that effect in mind, but perhaps one that would fill in the gaps left out by Battle Standard.

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Posted by: Strejda Tom.6108

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I’d like shout as elite skill too. And the stats are fine.

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Posted by: Swagman.9013

Swagman.9013

The stats can be tweaked with how many stacks and the duration. But it is something I would like to see.

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Posted by: Ragnar Dragonfyre.1806

Ragnar Dragonfyre.1806

Even though this would be lackluster, I’d prefer this over Juggernaut any day.

We definitely need a revamp to our 30 skill point Elite. I’ve never seen ANYONE using it.

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Posted by: Osred.3864

Osred.3864

‘’I will avenge you’’ should return as an elite shout. With longer buffs ofcourse.

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Posted by: Irishbrewed.6537

Irishbrewed.6537

Even though this would be lackluster, I’d prefer this over Juggernaut any day.

We definitely need a revamp to our 30 skill point Elite. I’ve never seen ANYONE using it.

The banner is really sexy. I love it in spvp !

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Posted by: Ragnar Dragonfyre.1806

Ragnar Dragonfyre.1806

Even though this would be lackluster, I’d prefer this over Juggernaut any day.

We definitely need a revamp to our 30 skill point Elite. I’ve never seen ANYONE using it.

The banner is really sexy. I love it in spvp !

I like the Banner a lot too… the cooldown however is a big turn off.

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Posted by: Progulous.1763

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“Face Me!” – Recharge – 60s
Shout. Forces foes to attack you and inflicts Weakness. Gain Protection and Stability.

*Radius – 900
*Taunt Duration – 3s
*Weakness – 8s
*Protection – 8s
*Stability – 8s

It would work like a reverse-fear. Enemies would run toward you.

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Posted by: MolotovCocktailParty.8931

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“Face Me!” – Recharge – 60s
Shout. Forces foes to attack you and inflicts Weakness. Gain Protection and Stability.

*Radius – 900
*Taunt Duration – 3s
*Weakness – 8s
*Protection – 8s
*Stability – 8s

It would work like a reverse-fear. Enemies would run toward you.

Sounds cool, but would it work on players?

Stuff about I Will Avenge You being an Elite

I support this. IWAY wasn’t that good, but it was awesome. You could make it so that it applies its buffs to everyone in the area but double to you (to keep it competitive with the banner) and ress everyone nearby with like 2/3 the banner’s insta-ress radius if you kill someone. It should also make downed players temporarily unkillable/uninterruptible. All of this might be too much, but I think it returning as an AoE buff that made downed people not killable and not interruptible with a ress attached to kills would be cool.

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Posted by: Heru.5427

Heru.5427

Good idea, I like it.

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Posted by: Bamfbear.5028

Bamfbear.5028

Well warriors in general, are the class for frontlines. In the heat of the battle, taking the hits.

When I think of an elite shout, I think of something that’s supposed to be inspiring.
The “Face Me” one is a good idea, but it’s too defensive and would only appeal to PvE really.

Why not bring back the warrior ability from GW1 “On Your Knees!”?

Or maybe this;

* “Stand Your Ground!”*
Shout. Inspires allies to stand their ground, demoralizes enemies. Gain Might, Stability, Fury and Regen to allies. Enemies are weakened and slowed.

The buffs to allies and you could last like 20s, the debuffs would be around 7s. Of course tweaking would be necessary but that would be a sick elite skill.

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Posted by: Evagal.2584

Evagal.2584

Well warriors in general, are the class for frontlines. In the heat of the battle, taking the hits.

When I think of an elite shout, I think of something that’s supposed to be inspiring.
The “Face Me” one is a good idea, but it’s too defensive and would only appeal to PvE really.

Why not bring back the warrior ability from GW1 “On Your Knees!”?

Or maybe this;

* “Stand Your Ground!”*
Shout. Inspires allies to stand their ground, demoralizes enemies. Gain Might, Stability, Fury and Regen to allies. Enemies are weakened and slowed.

The buffs to allies and you could last like 20s, the debuffs would be around 7s. Of course tweaking would be necessary but that would be a sick elite skill.

@"Stand your ground":
Guardians already have this basically,in shout form,as a nonelite.

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Posted by: Bamfbear.5028

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Oh really? Didn’t know. That sucks.

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Posted by: Swagman.9013

Swagman.9013

Well theres a lot of good ideas on here, yes i was trying to think of a good balance between PVE and PVP with an elite skill shout, hence the idea of it inflicting weakness and cripple.

I dont know if have the focus be mainly on defensive would be the best since most elite skills can be tailored to the situation and i would think that Anet would like to keep this one open for possibilities.

But please keep the bumps going to help get eyes on it.

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Posted by: Craftyman.6502

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I definitely feel there should be an elite stance too, if not somewhere in the future.

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Posted by: knyy.8276

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i think that shout would be overpowered, except maybe with a cooldown of 240s and a duration of 6s. so take away stability and the debuffs and its ok with a much lower cooldown.

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Posted by: Progulous.1763

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No, it wouldn’t be overpowered. It’s an elite.

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Posted by: TGSlasher.1458

TGSlasher.1458

Pop 100 blades then elite shout during lol

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Posted by: Swagman.9013

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That Juggernaut elite is basically an elite stance isnt it.

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Posted by: hype r.5431

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As a warrior who uses mainly shouts, I would love to see a shout elite, but untill then I will stick to my signet for solo and Banner for groups.

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Posted by: RaptorSpectre.3271

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Stand and face me sounds terrible. Sounds way to much like a force taunt. Warriors aren’t tanks. The last thing we want in this game is any notion of the unholy trinity coming back.

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Posted by: Braxxus.2904

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Ooo I’d like to see an elite shout too. So I can abuse the trait that makes your shout heal even more :P

If by abuse you mean do a max of 2k heal per shout if you gear solely for healing and watch as the other team just 1-attacks it away as if it never happened (leaving your damage in the gutter at the same time) You mean that abuse?

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Posted by: Swagman.9013

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I think for the class giving it some support options would fit the best. The banner is nice but the cool down is so long it deters me from using it. I usually just use the human racial elite that poisons and chills enemies in an aoe around me because I can use it every other pull in dungeons.

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Posted by: Rhazmuz.8637

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/signed, would love an elite shout ability.

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Posted by: Grumpdogg.6910

Grumpdogg.6910

/sign

I think it’s a very reasonable request. A short term solution could be a shout version of the Signet of Rage, but I would love to see a more defensive shout so it’s a good alternative to SoR. How about something with protection, aegis or retaliation? Something warriors don’t otherwise have access to would be nice.

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Posted by: Redscope.6215

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I’m sure its on the short list for expansion material. Right up there with Greataxe being an xpac weapon.

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Posted by: Kinto.9485

Kinto.9485

How this elite’s shout should be.
Just from 0:12 – 0:17. I rest my case.

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Posted by: Progulous.1763

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Stand and face me sounds terrible. Sounds way to much like a force taunt. Warriors aren’t tanks. The last thing we want in this game is any notion of the unholy trinity coming back.

Oh, should we get rid of all heals, too? You’re delusional if you think this would be enough to bring tanks “back” into the game.

How is a 3-second taunt any worse than a 3-second fear?

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Posted by: Swagman.9013

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First off let’s not argue over game semantics on a thread that I would hope helps the warrior class.

Secondly a fear taunt or even aoe stun shout is not that great for the class overall. What good is a long cool down shout that serves no purpose other than eating a stack of defiant off a champion elite.

I would prefer something that had equal utility in pvp, pve, or whatever I’m doing like the banner does. Boons and conditions are the easiest to add and balance and will provide the most benefit. Lets try to leave the innovative new abilities for a bit further down the road.

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Posted by: Swagman.9013

Swagman.9013

Bump for great justice

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Posted by: Nargaroth.1482

Nargaroth.1482

one great shout would be “Show your self!” (Reveal all stealth foes in x range)

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Posted by: iYosh.9802

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i will avenge you!