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Posted by: Choppy.4183

Choppy.4183

Has anyone else noticed direct damage skills getting through Endure Pain? Several times I’ve activated it only to be burst down with direct damage a second later.

I’m aware that it sometimes disappears (as was caught on one of Vaanas’ videos), but I’m not sure if it’s that, Endure Pain being counted as a block for some reason (though most of the things hitting me don’t appear to be unblockable), or something else.

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

I could totally confirm this if I ran endure pain -_-u

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Posted by: Choppy.4183

Choppy.4183

I could totally confirm this if I ran endure pain -_-u

When surfing zergs, don’t leave home without it…

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

I could totally confirm this if I ran endure pain -_-u

When surfing zergs, don’t leave home without it…

Then God said, “Let there be glory!”, and the warrior waded through a 60 man zerg, and the warrior did not blink, and God looked upon this, and it was good.

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Posted by: Choppy.4183

Choppy.4183

I could totally confirm this if I ran endure pain -_-u

When surfing zergs, don’t leave home without it…

Then God said, “Let there be glory!”, and the warrior waded through a 60 man zerg, and the warrior did not blink, and God looked upon this, and it was good.

Exactly! I feel like I’m getting shortchanged on my few seconds of glorious godhood.

That aside, I’m genuinely interested to know if anyone else is noticing something different about the effectiveness of the skill. I think this has been going on since HoT launch, or not long after, and I’m wondering if this might be one of those odd bugs (e.g. certain skills cancelling the stance).

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Posted by: Arkanis Drako.5169

Arkanis Drako.5169

I´ve noticed that too, not very often, though.

I remember this one time, when a Dragon Hunter got me with every trap they had in stronghold mode. I immediately activated endure pain and berserker stance to mitigate the damage, only to find my hp pool to be reduced to about 50% none the less. I thought I activated my stances too late, but noticed damage beeing inflicted even though both stances were still active and with no conditions on my warrior.

I used my heal skill and shield block to get through the rest of the 6 second elite trap stunlock and escaped with endure pain, triggered by defy pain and was just glad to not have died on spot.

The second endure pain actually DID reduce any incoming damage to 0.

I can only guess, that the first endure pain was overpowered by the sheer number of damage ticks and cc being applied by all those traps.

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

Unfortunately its one of those “if its not caught on vid it didn’t happen” things :/

Could be a matter of split seconds, could be a matter of lag.

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Posted by: Choppy.4183

Choppy.4183

Unfortunately its one of those “if its not caught on vid it didn’t happen” things :/

Could be a matter of split seconds, could be a matter of lag.

It was caught on vid here, actually. Whether that’s what I’m experiencing or if it’s something else, I can’t say.

Note: This issue was raised in an earlier thread as well.

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Posted by: Juba.8406

Juba.8406

i had my doubts about this way before HoT, was thinking that im imagining things or lagging.

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Posted by: EvilSardine.9635

EvilSardine.9635

Here’s more proof:

At the very end my killshot eats right through his endure pain like if it wasn’t even there. This has happened to me before…..where I know I hit my endure pain but for some reason I still took damage and died.

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Posted by: Choppy.4183

Choppy.4183

Thanks EvilSardine; it’s good to have corroboration. I’ll go start a thread in the bugs section and link back here.

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Posted by: Kraljevo.2801

Kraljevo.2801

Happened to me as well, a couple months ago. Was fighting a power necro with vampiric aura, his life blasts completely ignored Endure pain. At first I thought I didn’t use it in time but after respawning I saw it was on cooldown…

Thx for posting it Choppy.

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Posted by: Rain.9213

Rain.9213

Well… that explains a lot ._. FIX THEM BUGS DANGIT!

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

Oh, right, I know might know what’s going on here

So I don’t know where the bug lies specifically, or the way in which activated buffs works, or if it’s related to how channeled skills effects and their activation works, or if its some combination of these things but-

  • If you start a channel skill like Hundred Blades, lets say against a blocking Rev, and you activate Sig of Might after the first hit lands, the entire channel of hits will fail to deal damage. Note, they won’t be blocked, but something bugs out or doesn’t “connect”. This occurs, I think, because of the way in which the queue and activation time works, and how effects sparse out after activation. So in the case of the Killshot vid, if you slow the vid right down and look at the activation times of the skills, Killshot’s channel goes first and lands a hit, endure pains activation is late even though the effect comes into play on the buff bar. In Vann’s case the skills look like, Shield Bash > Endure Pain proc > Eviscerate, however if the timing of the skill queue matters, the Eviscerate could have been queued in conjunction with the Shield Bash, going in before endure pain. Weird, I know, but its one explanation. Obviously buggy behavior either way.

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Posted by: EvilSardine.9635

EvilSardine.9635

Oh, right, I know might know what’s going on here

So I don’t know where the bug lies specifically, or the way in which activated buffs works, or if it’s related to how channeled skills effects and their activation works, or if its some combination of these things but-

  • If you start a channel skill like Hundred Blades, lets say against a blocking Rev, and you activate Sig of Might after the first hit lands, the entire channel of hits will fail to deal damage. Note, they won’t be blocked, but something bugs out or doesn’t “connect”. This occurs, I think, because of the way in which the queue and activation time works, and how effects sparse out after activation. So in the case of the Killshot vid, if you slow the vid right down and look at the activation times of the skills, Killshot’s channel goes first and lands a hit, endure pains activation is late even though the effect comes into play on the buff bar. In Vann’s case the skills look like, Shield Bash > Endure Pain proc > Eviscerate, however if the timing of the skill queue matters, the Eviscerate could have been queued in conjunction with the Shield Bash, going in before endure pain. Weird, I know, but its one explanation. Obviously buggy behavior either way.

No, I don’t think that’s how it works. Because I duel my warrior friend a lot and if he casts a killshot and I have no dodgerolls I’ll pop my endure pain and it will negate the damage.

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

Oh, right, I know might know what’s going on here :D

So I don’t know where the bug lies specifically, or the way in which activated buffs works, or if it’s related to how channeled skills effects and their activation works, or if its some combination of these things but-

  • If you start a channel skill like Hundred Blades, lets say against a blocking Rev, and you activate Sig of Might after the first hit lands, the entire channel of hits will fail to deal damage. Note, they won’t be blocked, but something bugs out or doesn’t “connect”. This occurs, I think, because of the way in which the queue and activation time works, and how effects sparse out after activation. So in the case of the Killshot vid, if you slow the vid right down and look at the activation times of the skills, Killshot’s channel goes first and lands a hit, endure pains activation is late even though the effect comes into play on the buff bar. In Vann’s case the skills look like, Shield Bash > Endure Pain proc > Eviscerate, however if the timing of the skill queue matters, the Eviscerate could have been queued in conjunction with the Shield Bash, going in before endure pain. Weird, I know, but its one explanation. Obviously buggy behavior either way.

No, I don’t think that’s how it works. Because I duel my warrior friend a lot and if he casts a killshot and I have no dodgerolls I’ll pop my endure pain and it will negate the damage.

Ohwell :(

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Posted by: CntrlAltDefeat.1465

CntrlAltDefeat.1465

Endure pain doesn’t work on last laugh instability.

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Posted by: Caedmon.6798

Caedmon.6798

Has anyone else noticed direct damage skills getting through Endure Pain? Several times I’ve activated it only to be burst down with direct damage a second later.

I’m aware that it sometimes disappears (as was caught on one of Vaanas’ videos), but I’m not sure if it’s that, Endure Pain being counted as a block for some reason (though most of the things hitting me don’t appear to be unblockable), or something else.

Yeah i noticed this since about 2 months back,Pistolwhip made a thread about it back then and i thought it was caused by nec,vampiric aura where others ppl dmg are getting through ep.But now im not sure anymore,ive seen it happen vs several classes.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/Endure-Pain-bugged/first#post5503334

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Posted by: Choppy.4183

Choppy.4183

Has anyone else noticed direct damage skills getting through Endure Pain? Several times I’ve activated it only to be burst down with direct damage a second later.

I’m aware that it sometimes disappears (as was caught on one of Vaanas’ videos), but I’m not sure if it’s that, Endure Pain being counted as a block for some reason (though most of the things hitting me don’t appear to be unblockable), or something else.

Yeah i noticed this since about 2 months back,Pistolwhip made a thread about it back then and i thought it was caused by nec,vampiric aura where others ppl dmg are getting through ep.But now im not sure anymore,ive seen it happen vs several classes.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/Endure-Pain-bugged/first#post5503334

Yeah, I linked his thread above but had forgotten about it. Had I remembered, I would have revived his instead of creating a new one.

In any case, I never did understand how the thread started to focus on Vampiric Aura. He included the link to Vaans’ video in his first post, which was just a warrior vs warrior duel, and clearly showed the EP icon disappearing from the bar almost immediately.

This is definitely not about VA.

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