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Posted by: Argilla.8340

Argilla.8340

I’m here to prove you all wrong

Here are 2 Clips of how amazing warrior is

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Posted by: Zoltreez.6435

Zoltreez.6435

and 3……2………1………

-Stellaris
-Total War: Warhammer
-Guild Wars 2

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Posted by: SlayerSixx.5763

SlayerSixx.5763

Nobody ever said warriors didn’t deal enough damage. They said they lacked sustain to handle on point pressure, even when specced for bunker.

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Posted by: kdaddy.5431

kdaddy.5431

wait lol wait hahahahahaha

you won a 1 vs 3 on a set up burst start and then you got to free cast on the 2nd one.

OMG hahahahaahahahahaha lol what? My brain hurts

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

Berserker makes a great (possibly best) bunker buster.

To win reliably with a Bunker Buster, you still need a solid team comp.

Pretty much true of every build.

Also, as great as full zerkerberker is damage-wise, there are stronger bunker buster setups for more assured wins, both on the per-fight, and match win levels.

Anyway, bad players shouldn’t play warrior. True story.

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Posted by: Syde.5961

Syde.5961

Team plz, this is obvious troll post.

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Posted by: Interpretor.3091

Interpretor.3091

Lol warrior isn’t bad, it’s just that Revenant is 3 times better at the very least. Revenant does just as much damage, provides its team with all of the important PvP boons in the game for almost free, and survives against condition and physical damage for much longer and more efficiently than any other damage dealing class. Warrior is not bad, Revenant just does everything so much better so why bother? I mean I guess you can play warrior to prove people wrong, but hey, let’s see how far that gets you. I would say Ruby at most, maybe diamond if you have friends who want to carry you.

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Posted by: PierPiero.9142

PierPiero.9142

warrior and thief are not that bad but they are more difficult to play than other profs . A thief that is able to rotate properly can make you win a match ( i don’t play it ) . I prefer often to play with a warrior rather than a dragonhunter if i don’t know them. Warrior are note stronger than dh but in this period, i find few people play warrior well and many people playing dh badly becouse they roll it thinking ok .. with this i win so statistically i prefer warrior .

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

Lol warrior isn’t bad, it’s just that Revenant is 3 times better at the very least. Revenant does just as much damage, provides its team with all of the important PvP boons in the game for almost free, and survives against condition and physical damage for much longer and more efficiently than any other damage dealing class. Warrior is not bad, Revenant just does everything so much better so why bother? I mean I guess you can play warrior to prove people wrong, but hey, let’s see how far that gets you. I would say Ruby at most, maybe diamond if you have friends who want to carry you.

I love Rev, nice easy kills for my berserker.

Except for a few Chrono matches, been running through ruby on berserker.

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Posted by: Krysard.1364

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Lol warrior isn’t bad, it’s just that Revenant is 3 times better at the very least. Revenant does just as much damage, provides its team with all of the important PvP boons in the game for almost free, and survives against condition and physical damage for much longer and more efficiently than any other damage dealing class. Warrior is not bad, Revenant just does everything so much better so why bother? I mean I guess you can play warrior to prove people wrong, but hey, let’s see how far that gets you. I would say Ruby at most, maybe diamond if you have friends who want to carry you.

If you’re a good warr you can play and win legendary macthes as soloq… And its not abou rev, but any other class, and when all classes outperform warr, warr is considered bad

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Posted by: Krysard.1364

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M I L K B O I S

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Posted by: Argilla.8340

Argilla.8340

so many ppl with l2p issues here

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Posted by: dominik.9721

dominik.9721

Still using gunflame

1/10

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Posted by: Cogbyrn.7283

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God forbid positioning be an aspect of success. Warriors apparently have to stand on points in order to be useful to their team.

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Posted by: SlayerSixx.5763

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God forbid positioning be an aspect of success. Warriors apparently have to stand on points in order to be useful to their team.

In a 1v1 where you’re defending a node…? Yea.

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Posted by: Cogbyrn.7283

Cogbyrn.7283

God forbid positioning be an aspect of success. Warriors apparently have to stand on points in order to be useful to their team.

In a 1v1 where you’re defending a node…? Yea.

Why are you pigeonholing Warriors into being 1v1 node defense?

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Posted by: Vague Memory.2817

Vague Memory.2817

Warriors are still very good. But if people complain enough Anet will buff them and warrs will be number 1 profession again in OPness. Hurray.

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Posted by: SlayerSixx.5763

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God forbid positioning be an aspect of success. Warriors apparently have to stand on points in order to be useful to their team.

In a 1v1 where you’re defending a node…? Yea.

Why are you pigeonholing Warriors into being 1v1 node defense?

There will always be instances where you have to 1v1 an enemy at an objective you can’t exactly kite around. Thief’s saving grace used to be that the enemy had to be spread out more, always leaving a gap for them to quickly rotate into. Thieves CAN still do that, but not so much anymore. Warriors, on the other hand, are useless as soon a bunker or revenant walks up to them. Not really something that needs explaining :/.

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Posted by: online.1278

online.1278

You will realize that that kinda build sucks against pro-dueler who knows how to use even environmental things with all of his sustain and only works against noobs.

Warrior is still bad. And you will have no idea when you meet pro people who always attack together. Revnant will sustain pretty longer than warrior tho, in any situation.

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Posted by: Cogbyrn.7283

Cogbyrn.7283

God forbid positioning be an aspect of success. Warriors apparently have to stand on points in order to be useful to their team.

In a 1v1 where you’re defending a node…? Yea.

Why are you pigeonholing Warriors into being 1v1 node defense?

There will always be instances where you have to 1v1 an enemy at an objective you can’t exactly kite around. Thief’s saving grace used to be that the enemy had to be spread out more, always leaving a gap for them to quickly rotate into. Thieves CAN still do that, but not so much anymore. Warriors, on the other hand, are useless as soon a bunker or revenant walks up to them. Not really something that needs explaining :/.

If Warrior isn’t the best at 1v1, and you are a Warrior that finds him/herself 1v1ing on an objective, doesn’t that mean you’re doing something wrong? I’m not sure why it is always going to be the case where you’ll be 1v1ing sometimes, on the defensive in this case because we were specifically talking about having to stay on-point instead of hitting someone hard who has to stay on point. Maybe the Warrior is the last man standing in a defensive fight and so you’re in a 1v1 situation, but in that case things are already bad, aren’t they?

And someone else in this very thread said that Warriors might be the best Bunker Busters. But if a Bunker walks up to a Warrior, the Warrior is useless?

It just sounds like people so frequently get stuck on their own ideas and refuse to budge/explore new ones. Then if you don’t share their opinion, you’re apparently missing something/don’t understand.

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Posted by: SlayerSixx.5763

SlayerSixx.5763

So warriors can’t 1v1. They’re subpar at rotating vs mesmers and thieves. They’re about equal with a tempest ele, but tempest ele brings a ton more to the table. As a +1, they have to rely on gunflame, but considering their subpar rotational abilities, they would need something along the lines of clairvoyance in order to +1 at the right place at the right time. Their support is iffy at best. As you can see, there’s literally nothing a warrior can do, aside from damage, adequately, and even that is in contention.

Warrior vs bunker, bunker wins every time. Why? Quite simple. Rifle, outside of zerk, is subpar and killshot is unusable. During zerk mode, a bunker has more than enough defenses to deal with your funny business (tons of reflect, damage mitigation, etc). I’d list them all if you’d like. The only way you’d bust a bunker is if you managed to +1 without them catching wind of you, but even hammer rev would prove more useful (oh look, a non bunker counter as well). All of this is assuming they’re not pressuring you back since you have nearly 0 sustain, thus forcing you to either give up the point or die and feed them more points. After all of the hooplah on the forums, you’d expect there to be no longer any doubt about this.

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Posted by: Cogbyrn.7283

Cogbyrn.7283

After all of the hooplah on the forums, you’d expect there to be no longer any doubt about this.

Hooplah on the forums is the result of people realizing they can freely complain about how weak/strong something is without getting lambasted, because a critical mass of other folks have also complained. Then, they can go out and tell anyone who is playing Warrior that the class is terrible and shouldn’t be played, even though someone, somewhere might find a build for it that works.

Any attitude that stunts the growth or evolution of a class/game is one I don’t like. So I push back against it.

There should always be some doubt about everything, so nothing stops being tested. I understand the arguments you are making, but you’re also giving others the ability to AFK out of matches because they see a Warrior, regardless of that Warrior’s map awareness/abilities.

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Posted by: SlayerSixx.5763

SlayerSixx.5763

The people who AFK out of matches when they see a warrior on their team are justified in their disappointment/anger and I’ll agree that their reaction is exaggerated. That being said, until ANet does something about this dismal balance, warriors should do everyone a favour and either re-roll or play WvWvW/unranked. Ranked, as much of a joke as it actually is currently, is the mode you play when you want to win and warrior simply isn’t that.

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Posted by: SoulSin.5682

SoulSin.5682

This video drived me insane.
Why is no one capping the darn point.

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Posted by: Interpret Interrupt.3824

Interpret Interrupt.3824

Shatter mes is notorious for being squishy.
I commend berserker players. I do not like the specialization, but I give it credit for what it is good at. Making big numbers.

This video drived me insane.
Why is no one capping the darn point.

Lol I was thinking the same thing. Bleed him out with the rifle I kept thinking.

Plus is that action cam?? Interesting.

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Posted by: Junkpile.7439

Junkpile.7439

When i play warrior i always lose and i always lose against warrior when i play some other class so warrior is bad. I usually just smash keyboard and i don’t have any idea what to do, but it still warrior fault that i lose.

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

The people who AFK out of matches when they see a warrior on their team are justified in their disappointment/anger and I’ll agree that their reaction is exaggerated. That being said, until ANet does something about this dismal balance, warriors should do everyone a favour and either re-roll or play WvWvW/unranked. Ranked, as much of a joke as it actually is currently, is the mode you play when you want to win and warrior simply isn’t that.

Read: I’m bad at warrior. When I play warrior, I get rekt. I can’t figure out warrior, which I’m told is a super easy class to play. Warrior UP right now, but I take it to the next level.

Meanwhile…

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Alright I’m gonna lay down some truth here. I only logged onto my alt smurf acc to answer this since my main account is banned on forums until January 14th. Listen up. For those who think they are good warriors, I know Interpret Interrupt and Interpretor, these guys have a high MMR as do I, and we all mained warrior. We had to change mains if we actually wanted to do decent in sPvP in this meta since warrior is absolute kitten tier in high tier/high MMR sPvP, even one of the best warriors Tarcis re-rolled since it’s crap in high tier. So stop acting like “warrior is good, I’m good at warrior” because quite frankly, your MMR is garbage and you’re playing against garbage players. I can 1v3 people around this account’s MMR on Marauer GS/AS Rampage warrior. So gtfo, you guys suck, the people you’re playing against suck.

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

Alright I’m gonna lay down some truth here. I only logged onto my alt smurf acc to answer this since my main account is banned on forums until January 14th. Listen up. For those who think they are good warriors, I know Interpret Interrupt and Interpretor, these guys have a high MMR as do I, and we all mained warrior. We had to change mains if we actually wanted to do decent in sPvP in this meta since warrior is absolute kitten tier in high tier/high MMR sPvP, even one of the best warriors Tarcis re-rolled since it’s crap in high tier. So stop acting like “warrior is good, I’m good at warrior” because quite frankly, your MMR is garbage and you’re playing against garbage players. I can 1v3 people around this account’s MMR on Marauer GS/AS Rampage warrior. So gtfo, you guys suck, the people you’re playing against suck.

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I wonder why your account was banned.

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Posted by: lighter.2708

lighter.2708

3v1 is stronk, war op nao

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Posted by: emkelly.2371

emkelly.2371

Long post that can be viewed below.
Edited for clarity:

Just because Killshot and Gun Flame are good skills does not mean the warrior is any less under powered.

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

Yes. It is very satisfying critting for 15k. But one good skill does not a good class make. And yes assuming you are 3v1 or assuming.g you that the top on your opponent you can week the competition. None of this cha.he’s the fact t that warriors have been needed into the ground. If anything it means that later on ArenaNet is going to nerf gun flame and kill shot because we can’t have a skill that does 15k with one hit. And then what will you say when you no longer have any good skills. This is not an argument that needs to be had what needs to be realized is that while Warriors have one good skill and perhaps one good build does not mean that they are a balanced class in any shape or form all it means is that there is one good skill or build that a lawyer can use to be competitive but honestly killshot warriors have been around forever and you never heard about people wanting to play them all the time what it was was the Shadow Warrior that people wanted to play or the handle all that people wanted to play you know back when we had multiple skills that were effective and then someone complains that the Warrior is overpowered has too much sustained and they can’t kill them simply cuz they don’t know how to play the freaking game and only now that every other option has been removed are people going back to playing kill shot and now with the new beserker specialization they’re playing gun flame as well but if Warriors were back to the way they used to be no one would be playing killshot or if they were it was only something to do for fun. Look at all of the threads on this forum 90% of them are complaining about the warrior being under powered so you’re saying 90% of players don’t know how to play their warrior when they’ve been playing them for 3 years this simply is not true people know how to play their warriors and yes there are extremely good players out there who can make anything look good that doesn’t speak to how good the Warrior is that speaks to how good the player is Wayne is a f****** amazing player and there are many players out there who can make their warrior seem like the most overpowered thing in existence but those same players could also pick up a mesma and highlight and just how kitten the Mesmer is a class should not be relegated to how good the player is. A class should be made in such a way that anyone who picks up the character can have fun with the character this is a game not a competition yes ArenaNet is making this into a nice sport but it is still a game it is a nice port based on playing a game and a game is meant for everyone to be able to enjoy and the warrior has zero presence in the competition aspect of this game as it is so you’re telling me the best players in the in the world have completely alienated the warrior as a competitive class and you don’t think that something’s wrong with that?

Wall of text hits you for 10,000 damage.

If you broke your burst up into paragraphs the burst damage number wouldn’t be so noticeable, not so unlike killshot -_-u

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Posted by: emkelly.2371

emkelly.2371

Lol. Tuche Ross. Riche.

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Posted by: Choppy.4183

Choppy.4183

Wall of text hits you for 10,000 damage.

If you broke your burst up into paragraphs the burst damage number wouldn’t be so noticeable, not so unlike killshot -_-u

Paragraphing would have also ensured it wasn’t entirely blocked by my Forum Aegis.

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

Alright I’m gonna lay down some truth here. I only logged onto my alt smurf acc to answer this since my main account is banned on forums until January 14th. Listen up. For those who think they are good warriors, I know Interpret Interrupt and Interpretor, these guys have a high MMR as do I, and we all mained warrior. We had to change mains if we actually wanted to do decent in sPvP in this meta since warrior is absolute kitten tier in high tier/high MMR sPvP, even one of the best warriors Tarcis re-rolled since it’s crap in high tier. So stop acting like “warrior is good, I’m good at warrior” because quite frankly, your MMR is garbage and you’re playing against garbage players. I can 1v3 people around this account’s MMR on Marauer GS/AS Rampage warrior. So gtfo, you guys suck, the people you’re playing against suck.

-Mortal Wombat X

This has actually been my most favorite post in the last year.

It’s profundity is in the beauty of how, in a single, powerful stroke it both makes its point, while also making itself completely and utterly irrelevant. It’s a tragic masterpiece XD

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Posted by: Henry.5713

Henry.5713

The first warrior balance change that we will see is a nerf to Gun Flame.
I’d almost bet my life on that.

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Posted by: Burtnik.5218

Burtnik.5218

The first warrior balance change that we will see is a nerf to Gun Flame.
I’d almost bet my life on that.

Tbh it deserved a nerf as there is basically no tell for it (for me it looks like regular attack but then again..i have predator). But rifle as a whole needs buff. Feels weird that gunflame hits harder than killshot tho

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Posted by: Henry.5713

Henry.5713

The first warrior balance change that we will see is a nerf to Gun Flame.
I’d almost bet my life on that.

Tbh it deserved a nerf as there is basically no tell for it (for me it looks like regular attack but then again..i have predator). But rifle as a whole needs buff. Feels weird that gunflame hits harder than killshot tho

It is too strong, I agree. Even from the point of view of a class that has nothing else going for it apart from a powerful burst skill.

One thing ArenaNet has always been quick about is nerfing a “new build” that comes into play. Even if that build is a one trick pony which isn’t very versatile, easy to counter or just situational.
Think about Rampage warrior. It disappeared as quickly as it came and the nerf wouldn’t even have been needed for that.

Would be nice to see great weaknesses adressed as quickly as great strengths are.

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Posted by: dominik.9721

dominik.9721

A nerf on gunflame is defintly justified. Filling adrenalin and spamming f1 with an unnoiceable animation is stupid af.
Warrior needs a lot of buffs but I dont want a warrior build which is playable for every new player who has actually no idea about warrior

@Ghandi bot your statement is true to 99% of the warriorplayers here but defintly not to argi. He has probably a higher mmr than you will ever get.
When I play with/against argi we are facing pro league players 24/7.

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Posted by: Astray.5802

Astray.5802

I’m here to prove you all wrong

Here are 2 Clips of how amazing warrior is

Yea, and all esl league are idiots not running warrior at all?

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Posted by: Obindo.6802

Obindo.6802

I’m here to prove you all wrong

Here are 2 Clips of how amazing warrior is

Yea, and all esl league are idiots not running warrior at all?

He is one tho

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Posted by: Obindo.6802

Obindo.6802

The first warrior balance change that we will see is a nerf to Gun Flame.
I’d almost bet my life on that.

Tbh it deserved a nerf as there is basically no tell for it (for me it looks like regular attack but then again..i have predator). But rifle as a whole needs buff. Feels weird that gunflame hits harder than killshot tho

Ye with the legendary rifle the animation kinda blends in with the normal effect Outside of that, the animation is very clear imo. People complain because its “instant” when they have quickness from activating berserker mode? Good thing berserker mode is obvious.

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Posted by: dominik.9721

dominik.9721

He’s an esl pro league player from one of the best Eu teams himself. How can people be that weird to take his post on a serious note and claiming that he would be unexperienced to think that warrior would be viable.
Jesus… wake up guys…

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Posted by: Burtnik.5218

Burtnik.5218

He’s an esl pro league player from one of the best Eu teams himself. How can people be that weird to take his post on a serious note and claiming that he would be unexperienced to think that warrior would be viable.
Jesus… wake up guys…

Are you talking about Argilla? That guy who was facerolled on his druid by necro?

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Posted by: Argilla.8340

Argilla.8340

i can’t believe this thread baited so many people FailFish

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Posted by: runeblade.7514

runeblade.7514

Berserker makes a great (possibly best) bunker buster.

To win reliably with a Bunker Buster, you still need a solid team comp.

Pretty much true of every build.

Also, as great as full zerkerberker is damage-wise, there are stronger bunker buster setups for more assured wins, both on the per-fight, and match win levels.

Anyway, bad players shouldn’t play warrior. True story.

Warriors is the best bunker buster when the enemy isn’t bunker and doesn’t dodge at all.

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Posted by: lighter.2708

lighter.2708

i can’t believe this thread baited so many people FailFish

it wouldn’t bait as much if not for Ross and Cogbyrn The Warrior Gods

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

i can’t believe this thread baited so many people FailFish

it wouldn’t bait as much if not for Ross and Cogbyrn The Warrior Gods

I like winning on warrior when so many warriors are so hard in their QQ XD

It makes me giddy :D

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Posted by: Warlord.9074

Warlord.9074

Hey guys I’m new here. I just discovered zerk warrior and killshot, warrior is op.

/thread

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Posted by: Junkpile.7439

Junkpile.7439

How to make warrior that can run inside enemy zerg, make huge crits and stay alive?

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