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Posted by: mPascoal.4258

mPascoal.4258

Hey guys, sorry the long post, but I think it’s worth the debate.
So yesterday I watched ROM Stream on Twitch and he played a different build that I wasn’t expecting him to play. GS/Bow. The build he has in the description is this:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJAQJARTjMdUFahHmhwJaAmgCZnPBHjgAQdV85LBA-TpBHwAAuAAGeAACOEABOCAl2fAZZAA

Seeing him having sucess and being myself a GS Warrior lover I had to try it myself
After some tries I decided to focus on a variant of the build just has effective IMO.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJAQJARTjMd0FaVImhwJaAmgCbnPBHjgAQ7T85A-TpBHwAAuAAGeAACOEABOCAl2fAZZAA

Now according to him in the stream the build has some variants. Sigils on GS can be others, is up to personal taste. Other variant of traits to his build according to his channel description is 2/0/6/0/6 instead of the 0/4/4/0/6 he used. The build has bigger might stacking capability than Shoutbow, at least you get 25 might stacks faster because of Forceful Greatsword.

Now I have also seen Tarcis Twitch channel and one of the new builds that he claim in his channel description to be his creation (Idk if it is or not) and that will be meta is this:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJAQJARTjMd0FaVIeeQKagfgC7t3C2CA1pRu39A-TpBFwAMOCAIuAAWLDUb/hFHCAAPAAA

Now is also asked in the stream and he said the 2/0/6/0/6 can also be used. Is up to personal preference. Now what I don’t fully understand is the usage of Pack Runes with a Soldier amulet. The Crit chance will stay low, Fury can be archived with GS burst skill easily and 1 random stack of might and swiftness when hit is not going to make a huge difference IMO, since you already have Warriors Sprint and the might stacking capability of this build isn’t that great.This I haven’t tested yet because between ROM and Tarcis word on how effective a Warrior build is I will believe ROM first, nothing agaisn’t Tarcis, is just that I follow ROM for more time and he is more active in top tier teams since he was part of TCG and now the winning of the qualifiers in EU, oRNG.

What I want to know is what you guys think? I know Shoutbow is strong and will stay that way in the current meta, but could this be an option in the current meta for Warriors? Kinda tired of seeing every single Warrior with Shoutbow and small percentage still using Hambow.

Thoughts? Advices to improve the builds?

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Posted by: Brigg.6189

Brigg.6189

So GS/LB is on old, fantastic zerk build. It works ok right now, but not quite good enough to be “meta”. It’s more of just a fun option to do if you’re bored with the meta specs.

Traits runes are indeed personal preference; the core is really CI and burst mastery, those both synergize nicely with the build.

Don’t discount fury uptime either, it’s especially beneficial for low crit builds. GS gives some sure, but in general you’re going to be favoring LB burst for guaranteed condi clear and aoe pressure.

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Posted by: chibbi.3706

chibbi.3706

I play GS/LB a lot. However I don’t play either rom nor tarcis version, but a zerk version, since I find it a lot more fun to play :

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJAQJARTjMd0FaVImhwJagfABZwWGDMQ982lB-TpBFwACeAA12fYxhAIxRAoaZAAXAAA

works fairly well, really nice damage with nice cleave, pretty decent survivability and mobility.

I will also try 0/4/4/0/6 though, sounds pretty strong too. But I think it’d go better with strength runes that pack.

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Posted by: mPascoal.4258

mPascoal.4258

Thing is playing Zerker Warrior is kinda meh with GS, Thief, Power Necro, Mesmers and even a Medi Guardian have bigger burst hability because with Zerker you are too dependent on 100b and Whirlwind. With the Celestial and might stacking, which is the core for most meta builds, you will have nice direct damage and condi too. The ROM version gives more direct and condi damage than Shoutbow, but have less sustain because you don’t have the heals and so much condi clear. Most sources of damage are the same.

Intelligence Sigil on both this GS/Bow and Shoutbow are there mostly for a 100% Arcing Arrow proc since if you time them well it will hit for lot of damage.

Believe me, I had much more sucess in duels and games while testing this build than when I played GS/Bow Zerker. Has anyone else tried it?

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Posted by: tico.9814

tico.9814

I’ve been trying Tarcis build for the last couple of days and build is very strong, the damage is actually quite good with great amount of attack power, you can’t hundread blade often anyways so sigil of intelligence is the way to go on these type of setups. I agree berserker is meh on GS. After all the might nerf I’m actually liking Rampage more. Very fun build with tons of potential.

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Posted by: BlackTruth.6813

BlackTruth.6813

Thing is playing Zerker Warrior is kinda meh with GS

Yep. That isn’t a lie, the reason being is that GS by itself as a weapon set doesn’t have CC. It doesn’t really do more damage than Axe/Mace either.

http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6152446 (Ranked match against decent players)

This playstyle is probably what you’re looking for, but you’re going to have to get out of your comfort zone to get good results.

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Posted by: Siroso.2769

Siroso.2769

The celestial variant that you link from Rom is certainly interesting.

I’m pretty sure that Tarcis uses the standard zerker with pack runes, and 4/0/6/0/4? Also I think he normally goes air/fire, energy/hydromancy, and often three stances instead of the shake it off? If it was between the cele build and the soldier build you posted I’d go for the cele one, but it sounds like you’re looking for the classic version.

If you are interested in how to play the build, and you’re on NA, feel free to hit me up!

EDIT: I’ve re-read and see you’re perhaps looking for more of the might stacking version, but I still think you’d find running the zerker build useful first.

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