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Posted by: maha.7902

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mesmer gs 1500 range

i guess mesmers are the gs masters

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Posted by: Juba.8406

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Well i’m feeling jelly for that pull skill “Reaper’s Grasp”.

Anyway as i said before Warrior GS need to be a 5-target cleave weapon, as warrior is not a magic user this change suits him well.

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Posted by: WhiteCrow.5310

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You seem to forget Warriors swing that GS much, much faster. Necros are slow, as well as their GS auto-attack. I’d gladly take faster attack speed over a slight range increase any day.

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Posted by: Sykper.6583

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Pointless to compare.

Ultimately, Warrior GS both thematically and mechanically gives us what we want from a Greatsword. Mobility and Damage. Fighting against a GS warrior gives everyone the natural assumption that they will take a bit of heat from faster swings and sudden onslaught Whirlwind Blade (with an actual F1 finisher).

Necromancer GS does not even compare with mobility, however again, it shares that same ’Don’t be next to that guy swinging that sword around’ feel. Instead, with necromancers being as slow as they are, they compensate by being able to make their enemies as slow as them ala chilling them to the bone. They also command the dead to bring their soon to be reaped closer.

Both are, as far as I can tell, fine weapons for their respective professions.

However Juba made a good point, Warrior GS being able to cleave 5 probably wouldn’t be such a bad change.

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Posted by: Holl.3109

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Guys, necro has absurd cast times on it’s GS.
Are you really thinking war GS is worse then necro GS? War GS has superior mobility and pretty good DMG. I don’t know what necromancer will bring exactly, cause I would want to play it first, but it looks like superior damage and CC/Chill is what Necro GS will bring.
Both are good, but I’d rather have mobility though :P

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Posted by: Juba.8406

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Guys, necro has absurd cast times on it’s GS.
Are you really thinking war GS is worse then necro GS? War GS has superior mobility and pretty good DMG. I don’t know what necromancer will bring exactly, cause I would want to play it first, but it looks like superior damage and CC/Chill is what Necro GS will bring.
Both are good, but I’d rather have mobility though :P

Yeah but still i can see Necro GS rocking well in PvP, cant say the same for War GS.

War GS needs something extra there, like 5-target cleave on all skills minus skill #5, make it “the cleave” weapon, Mobility is great for WvW but not that good for conquest PvP.

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Posted by: BlackTruth.6813

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This guy is literally crying about Necro GS? They don’t have evades, they don’t have mobility, they have higher casting times, they are ALL-IN.

GS Warrior atm is fine tbh, it’s just that the lack of creativity and mechanics on the Warrior forums is ridiculous.

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Posted by: Holl.3109

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This guy is literally crying about Necro GS? They don’t have evades, they don’t have mobility, they have higher casting times, they are ALL-IN.

GS Warrior atm is fine tbh, it’s just that the lack of creativity and mechanics on the Warrior forums is ridiculous.

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Posted by: Sykper.6583

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This guy is literally crying about Necro GS? They don’t have evades, they don’t have mobility, they have higher casting times, they are ALL-IN.

GS Warrior atm is fine tbh, it’s just that the lack of creativity and mechanics on the Warrior forums is ridiculous.

And this guy can’t read, if you have read my topic you would have also read this:

(not saying Necro GS skills are better due.. just find it lame its 170 range compared to the REAL weapon master warrior..)

So blacktruth dont reply with this or why not go back to your stream.. i also remember something you said about necro.. evade spam? wassnt it?

Disclaimer: I am not eluding the silly points Blacktruth made, he might have a few things wrong (I feel bad for Necros and their lack of Vigor), but I will stay on his side for Greatsword because it already fulfills a role.

But Nick, I do appreciate many of your ideas for warrior, but I must object to your reasoning. Compared to Guardian and Mesmer, I personally feel our greatsword is at an appropriate place for what we do. In fact, the only facet of our Greatsword that could use some love would probably be GS4, the projectile is absurdly a failure. Everything else, including our improved burst, is much more in-line with a warrior’s speed with a greatsword.

…This is all regardless of his claims of Necromancer /evade…of which I spent about an hour on the floor laughing about. Even idiots can be correct for once.

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Posted by: TyPin.9860

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So what is your point then? Yes it might be odd from a thematic point of view. But so is that you can block an attack, that comes from behind, when you hold your shield in the front.

For balancing reasons those mechanics are fine (well, I have my problems with the block, but that is another issue). Reaper is a snail when compared to warriors.

I find it odd, that a heavy armor profession is the fastest in the game? So what? Things are, as they are…

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Posted by: SpellOfIniquity.1780

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Necromancer has 40 additional range on greatsword. World ending. Warrior not true weapons master. Pls nurf Anet.

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Posted by: Sthenith.5196

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I absolutely LOVE my GS warrior. Imo, the warrior is an up-in-yo-face kinda character that smacks away at anyone or anything that comes in it’s path.
To aid in that you have the G5 skill that lets him/her run straight up to it’s foe(s), hit, and immediately starts beating the crap out of it or them.

Not only that, but you can build em to be tankier, do more condi, clear more condi(s) or plain however you want without really messing it up if you put some thought into it.

It’s a versatile class that’s a lot of fun to play if you want to go ‘up close and personal’. And that’s the way it should be. No matter the range on gs.

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Posted by: Knighthonor.4061

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mesmer gs 1500 range

i guess mesmers are the gs masters

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Posted by: Jake.1430

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I think it’s just to offset that the attacks are slower, so they gave it that extra inch of range. I figured Anet rather you interupt them, rather than run away from them.

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Posted by: Thaddeus.4891

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Yeah but still i can see Necro GS rocking well in PvP, cant say the same for War GS.

War GS needs something extra there, like 5-target cleave on all skills minus skill #5, make it “the cleave” weapon, Mobility is great for WvW but not that good for conquest PvP.

Since War GS is lacking in sPvP, it need to cleave 5 target? Yup, all those time I can’t cleave 5 ppl bunch together in sPvP is why GS isn’t as popular, that should fix everything.

Not all weapon should be the best in all modes. War GS is already on the Top in WvW Roaming and PvE. The reason why it’s not as popular in sPvP is because it fight large. You swing around with GS #3 and 5 and that get you out of the point. You may win the fight but you will make your team lose. The same reason why D/D is decent in WvW, but not for sPvP. You can keep a point while fighting. There is no fixing that and it’s ok. There is nothing really to fix. Just different weapon, with different strength that fit different game mode.

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Posted by: BlackTruth.6813

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GS is okay in sPvP it’s just that it won’t be as good as Axe/Mace even though Axe/Mace is ridiculously risky. GS by itself needs CC so you might say just go Hammer + GS. It’s not going to be stronger than Hammer + Axe/Mace though if people actually cared about synergy i.e bursting with slick shoes, guard ring considering those two aren’t getting nerfed any time soon.

It has some favorable match ups though you don’t really wanna use it for duels. You wanna play like a melee carry tbh, it’s just that it feels like GS has to go full glass cannon to be rewarding.

GS’s problem, since launch, is really the fact that it doesn’t provide utility for the team. If your team already has a lot of utility such as CC then GS is good.

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Posted by: Sebrent.3625

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Last I checked, Warrior Greatsword is in such a great place that it is used in both WvW and PvE metas. Sometimes even a shout-build will leverage it in sPvP (though much rarer it seems).

Compare that to the Necro as a class having trouble being part of each meta …

Doesn’t seem like there’s much room to complain about Warrior Greatsword.

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Posted by: Wreckdum.8367

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100B is dookie since launch. Unless the other guy is awful you’re not landing more than 2-3 hits of the 8.

100B should be mobile and if balance is the issue just reduce damage a bit.

This game has a theme of form over function when it comes to animations. Getting stuck in an animation is crap gameplay.

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