Greatsword/Rifle Build

Greatsword/Rifle Build

in Warrior

Posted by: Shinun.8326

Shinun.8326

Well after getting 80 and trying out dungeons I changed the build up some and I honestly like it for my playstyle. Here is the updated build

Arms 30 (V,IX,X)
Tactics 10 (I)
Discipline 30 (III, VII,XI)
1795 Power (3000 Attack)
80% Crit Rate
102% Crit Damage
2137 Armor
19472 HP
Only Utility Skill needed is Signet of Fury

Build works with any cripple skills to upkeep full-time Fury aswell as throwing on the GS Burst can easily keep 100% Crit up with long Fury Durations. With GS equipped you gain Might per swing thanks to Forceful Greatsword so Might stacks never run out during battle. Also in General you have a 33% chance of inflicting vulnerability thanks to Rending Strikes.

Weapon swapping between the 2 weapons allows for another Might, 5 extra Adrenaline, and a shorten weapon swap timer of 5 seconds.

Rifle allows another cripple to proc immobolize (Fury), it’s own 5x attack skill, and an 8 stack of vulnerability skill. Also your still having 100% crit rate so while u do lose Might on each attack swapping to rifle you still have a 33% chance per hit of adding another vulnerability to the mob.

Overall I’m enjoying the build I may try it out on wpvp

(edited by Shinun.8326)

Greatsword/Rifle Build

in Warrior

Posted by: Lindbur.2537

Lindbur.2537

Rifles are a bad choice in dungeons.

A remnant of times past.
“Memories are nice, but that’s all they are.”

Greatsword/Rifle Build

in Warrior

Posted by: Shinun.8326

Shinun.8326

Thanks for that I guess?

Greatsword/Rifle Build

in Warrior

Posted by: adozu.6398

adozu.6398

it’s more related to how people go about dungeons at the moment. there’s a way to force almost all bosses into melee range “stacking” which provides easier team buffing and easier piling up of damage on the boss. even makes them screw up and not use some of their abilities (notorious example being spider queen in ascalonian catacombs which will not use her deadly aoe if everyone is hugging her).

in such a situation a “standard” GS/axe setup will deal twice or more the dps of any rifle build.

i’m sure it can work, it’s just not very good. if you mean pve-while exploring maps and gettng levels then is as good a choiche as any other. i could actually see it being fun to play in wvw provided you watch your position during fights, you’d be really squishy but killshotting someone in the middle of a zerg is always good fun.

(edited by adozu.6398)

Greatsword/Rifle Build

in Warrior

Posted by: Xavi.6591

Xavi.6591

Rifles are a bad choice in dungeons.

Truth. Every class is better in melee than ranged for dungeons/fractals.

Fantasme Bloodwen [R.I.P. Mesmer] | Andi Runi [Warrior] | Bonedoggle [Necro] | Zooerasty [Ranger]
Angry Intent [AI] | Yak’s Bend |

Greatsword/Rifle Build

in Warrior

Posted by: Shinun.8326

Shinun.8326

I updated the build and overall I’m happy with it

Greatsword/Rifle Build

in Warrior

Posted by: Flissy.4093

Flissy.4093

I don’t understand the points in Discipline, the traits in that line are horrible. As for taking Furious and Leg Specialist, you already have permanent fury from FGJ and Signet, so why do you need these?

Light Up the Darkness
“Dear ANet, nerf Paper, Scissors is fine. Sincerely, Rock”
Elysaurus | Warrior | [LOL] | League of the Legendary | Gandara (EU)

Greatsword/Rifle Build

in Warrior

Posted by: Shinun.8326

Shinun.8326

Discipline in this build also adds a 30% increase in damage because every hit is a crit, I personally like Sweet Revenge and Warrior’s Sprint, and out all the rest of the traits Burst Mastery seemed like the best. Also it allows for shortened swapping weapons so I can use Hundred Blades > Brutal Shot for another 8 stacks of Vulnerability > Volley > back to greatsword for Hundred Blades CD to end

I then have 10 extra points, I could of put them in power for +100 more Power, but the traits I don’t gain much from, while Leg Specialist and Opportunist will always be available due to timers I can swap Elite Skills for roaming or fun.

And I dont use Furious in this build the traits I listed in Arms are Rending Strikes, Opportunist, Forceful Greatsword

(edited by Shinun.8326)

Greatsword/Rifle Build

in Warrior

Posted by: Purple Miku.7032

Purple Miku.7032

I can only think of 3 circumstances in PvE where a rifle is the ideal choice of weapon to use.

1) Melandru on Arah P4
2) soloing the Champion Orrian Warrior in Arah if at all desired
3) Soloing a Champion Risen Megalodon (the shark champ) by rifling it from the shore, due to the fact that it 1-hits you with its rush which is pretty much impossible to avoid.

Other than that, it’s a complete waste. Single target, significantly less DPS than other weapons.

Greatsword/Rifle Build

in Warrior

Posted by: Flissy.4093

Flissy.4093

Discipline in this build also adds a 30% increase in damage because every hit is a crit

You could get increased damage, plus 300 Power, by putting them into Strength. Berserker’s Power = +15% (always full as both burst skills are horribad), +3% from Stick and Move, and +10% from Slashing Power. Add 300 Power onto that, and it’s much better than investing into Discipline. The +30% Condi duration from Strength isn’t really a reason (although +30% vuln duration is definitely nice), but it’s better than the +30% Burst Recharge from Discipline.

Light Up the Darkness
“Dear ANet, nerf Paper, Scissors is fine. Sincerely, Rock”
Elysaurus | Warrior | [LOL] | League of the Legendary | Gandara (EU)

Greatsword/Rifle Build

in Warrior

Posted by: wildfang.9670

wildfang.9670

Rifles are a bad choice in dungeons.

depends on your personal taste honestly.

i love using my rifle with my gs.

i get many of the goodies that axe gives (admittedly not quite as good) but gives me a way to continue to apply dps if i need to back out of the fire for my heal to cool down. in a experienced professional team i highly doubt you’ll need too.

i just don’t like the thought of dual melee sets for some reason seems not flexible enough.

at which point option a longbow. option b rifle.

longbow is not a bad weapon in fact it’s auto is better then rifles for power builds fan of fire also out dps’s rifle 2 aimed shot.

but that’s about where the love ends.

volley out dps’s arching shot (on a single target)
brutal shot adds vuln smoldering shot adds a single blind.
rifle but although useless in some boss fights is handy in other (slave driver) as you can use it then bola the mob to stay in spot.
aimed shot with leg specialist and opportunist is easy perm fury.

i can see reasons to take either rifle or bow into a pve setting as a complement to the gs.

i just feel like the rifle has better synergy.

with that said rifle doesn’t have as much dps as axe and ik that’s a deal breaker for some (not all but some) but rifle is not a bad weapon to use as a ranged alternate if your looking for one either.

Greatsword/Rifle Build

in Warrior

Posted by: Flissy.4093

Flissy.4093

Rifles are a bad choice in dungeons.

depends on your personal taste honestly.

No it doesn’t. Longbow is objectively a better choice. It has better damage, an immobilize, a blind, a fire field and a blast finisher, plus the best damaging condition in the game. All of these things a Rifle lacks.

Light Up the Darkness
“Dear ANet, nerf Paper, Scissors is fine. Sincerely, Rock”
Elysaurus | Warrior | [LOL] | League of the Legendary | Gandara (EU)

Greatsword/Rifle Build

in Warrior

Posted by: Shinun.8326

Shinun.8326

I tested putting 30 in Strength and taking 30 from discipline. The damage increase overall is noticeable roaming in LA with no food by myself Hundred Blades was doing 20-25k while Volley was doing ~9-12k. I couldn’t swap as often nor could i move as fast but in terms of DPs soloing the LA veterans took very little.

Greatsword/Rifle Build

in Warrior

Posted by: JVJD.4912

JVJD.4912

Rifles are a bad choice in dungeons.

depends on your personal taste honestly.

No it doesn’t. Longbow is objectively a better choice. It has better damage, an immobilize, a blind, a fire field and a blast finisher, plus the best damaging condition in the game. All of these things a Rifle lacks.

Longbow cant one shot anyone in wvw , a rifle can, if you can one shot a person who needs blind, fire fields , blast finishers, volley +kill shot combined produces more st dps that longbow try it on a target dummy, so yeah it is like personnel taste you want single target or aoe your choice

Man do some research b4 you barf >.>

To OP its simple melee always, range when you can’t melee

Greatsword/Rifle Build

in Warrior

Posted by: Flissy.4093

Flissy.4093

Rifles are a bad choice in dungeons.

depends on your personal taste honestly.

No it doesn’t. Longbow is objectively a better choice. It has better damage, an immobilize, a blind, a fire field and a blast finisher, plus the best damaging condition in the game. All of these things a Rifle lacks.

Longbow cant one shot anyone in wvw , a rifle can

1 shotting someone with a broken keyboard so can’t dodge doesn’t really make a weapon good. Killshot is the most highly telegraphed skill in the game, and anybody who gets hit with it I’d be able to kill with a level 5 Bearbow in blues. I could count on 1 hand how many times I’ve been hit by a killshot, and 0 of my fingers are up.

Light Up the Darkness
“Dear ANet, nerf Paper, Scissors is fine. Sincerely, Rock”
Elysaurus | Warrior | [LOL] | League of the Legendary | Gandara (EU)