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The above is very recent “Banner Shout” build I have developed so far. I found that Cleric with defense/tactics/discipline line works 2x better than Strength/tactics/discipline with Crusader amulet. (in terms of team fight and survivality, it gives me more winrate than crusader. Ally-heal is just crazy)

Now I am really wondering using between Gs/Hammer or Gs/Axe-shield.

I found following stuffs :
1. For gs/hammer, team fight support capability is increased since both 2 weapons can hit multiple target, and hammer does a bunch of CCs. Even though it has less damage cuz of no berserker trait and cleric amulet, it does a bunch of team heal and CCs on multiple target with fair damage (since I can permanently maintain crit chance at 40% with perma fury from GS and shout plus prec & fero buff from banner), not that much though. What i strongly feel is that, I need to stick to weapons that can hit multiple enemies since cleric cannot not make much damage on single target. (even though you have small power, the damage doubles when you hit 2 people, that kind of theory)

2. For shield, it contributes to self-survivality. But it seems that damage is very bad since eviscerate can target only single one so really not good in team fight (Anyway, eviscerate with cleric amulet cannot make good damage on single target). But the build has no endure pain except endure pain from its defense trait. It feels very likely that i just use settler shoutbow but that does not condi but that does direct damage with a bunch of cc and more supports)

Can you, maybe, help me which weapon I need to choose between them, or competely other sets, for this kind of build?

The build doesnt lose to DD cele ele or signet necro or whatever. I think the build is quite good since changed to cleric with defense trait, so i just want to finish making its final version.. help!!

What would be best weapon set for this banner shout build with discipline banner? Gs/hammer or gs/axe-sheild or flcompletely othet weapon types?

And i wanna ask one more thing to people who uses shield in spvp. Can you actually survive from incom8ng all-of-sudden burst when you are being targetted by enemy? Like how much % can you survive? and do you actually feel that shield works really nicely when that happens?

Thank you very much.

If you run Cleric, I would definitely opt for hammer, since you will not be killing anything with the kitten poor damage you bring. You basically wanna sit on a point and be able to hold it against 1-2 enemies until your backup arrives. The CC from Hammer can aid your teammates in getting the kills easier, while Shield is more for your own survival. You could use Mace/Shield, which makes the build even more tanky and has a decent stun to it too, to enable bursts from your mates.

I’d say just try it out, if you can survive fine on your own with hammer, it should be the superior option for this, if not, try something with the shield.

Also, if you do use shield remember to change your traits from dogged march to shield master. And I would also definitely consider using Heightened Focus instead of Burst Mastery, as it can help with ALOT of stuff including getting stomps or applying the Stun/Knockdown to finish an enemy off.

Best Regards,

Choco

Schokoladenonkel.7295:

If you run Cleric, I would definitely opt for hammer, since you will not be killing anything with the kitten poor damage you bring. You basically wanna sit on a point and be able to hold it against 1-2 enemies until your backup arrives. The CC from Hammer can aid your teammates in getting the kills easier, while Shield is more for your own survival. You could use Mace/Shield, which makes the build even more tanky and has a decent stun to it too, to enable bursts from your mates.

I’d say just try it out, if you can survive fine on your own with hammer, it should be the superior option for this, if not, try something with the shield.

Also, if you do use shield remember to change your traits from dogged march to shield master. And I would also definitely consider using Heightened Focus instead of Burst Mastery, as it can help with ALOT of stuff including getting stomps or applying the Stun/Knockdown to finish an enemy off.

Best Regards,

Choco

Thank you very much, i will then play gs/hammer like you said for more than 20~30 rounds in ranked arena to see if i can actually survive before my ally can kill one of them. If not i would try mace/shield with shield master trait like you said that its better to make cc to let teammate help to kill since eviscerate with cleric cannot make that much damage, which means it is better to make one more cc by using mace you said.

Thank you bery much!!! I now see which ways that this kinda build should go to. It really helped my insight.