Not really. Why? Because instead of trying to CC a stack of trash to death, you can just let a thief throw down perma blinds while you release superior-to-hammer dps.
This seems to be a common theme amongst GS fanboys. “I’ll do what I want and someone else can do all the work.”
Why would I hurt myself with hammer when somebody else can do the job so much better? perma-blinds> 3s stun
Which is basically their primary job for trash mobs and they sacrifice nothing to take advantage of this.
All you are doing is deflecting with out making real points.All of my points have been made. People just aren’t reading them. Everyone seems to be just scanning for tidbits they can remove from context. Everyone is arguing points that I agree with them on. All I am doing now is trying to help people learn to read. Read everything, let it sink in, try to comprehend what was written. Don’t forget to breath.
The only statements you’ve made in this thread were troll-bait designed to provoke an angry response. Perhaps you should re-articulate your points in a manner consistent with the promotion of a legitimate conversation and you’ll find you get the respect you are looking for.
Step one of that is to not use pejorative terms for groups of players. Step two is avoiding dismissive statements like “read what I said more carefully.” For what it’s worth, the onus of being understood is on the writer not the reader. If a lot of people consistently “misinterpret” or “don’t understand” your writing there is a very strong chance that your points aren’t as clear or self-evident as you believe they are and you should work on refining the clarity of your expression rather than belittle other people’s comprehension.
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You’re claiming everybody failed to read your posts. Perhaps if it’s everyone that’s telling you that you’re wrong, the problem might be that you did a poor job trying to convey what you actually meant to type?
“Oh but you obviously didn’t read what I typed. Try reading it again until you agree with me.”
You may be absolutely correct. I may have failed to properly convey some points or even all points. In that case, it would be nice to know where and how I failed to do so. I am always trying to improve myself:D
Not really. Why? Because instead of trying to CC a stack of trash to death, you can just let a thief throw down perma blinds while you release superior-to-hammer dps.
This seems to be a common theme amongst GS fanboys. “I’ll do what I want and someone else can do all the work.”
Why would I hurt myself with hammer when somebody else can do the job so much better? perma-blinds> 3s stun
Which is basically their primary job for trash mobs and they sacrifice nothing to take advantage of this.
All you are doing is deflecting with out making real points.All of my points have been made. People just aren’t reading them. Everyone seems to be just scanning for tidbits they can remove from context. Everyone is arguing points that I agree with them on. All I am doing now is trying to help people learn to read. Read everything, let it sink in, try to comprehend what was written. Don’t forget to breath.
The only statements you’ve made in this thread were troll-bait designed to provoke an angry response. Perhaps you should re-articulate your points in a manner consistent with the promotion of a legitimate conversation and you’ll find you get the respect you are looking for.
Step one of that is to not use pejorative terms for groups of players. Step two is avoiding dismissive statements like “read what I said more carefully.” For what it’s worth, the onus of being understood is on the writer not the reader. If a lot of people consistently “misinterpret” or “don’t understand” your writing there is a very strong chance that your points aren’t as clear or self-evident as you believe they are and you should work on refining the clarity of your expression rather than belittle other people’s comprehension.
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At this point there isn’t much use in trying, I guess. So lets break this down.
When it comes to trolls, all comments are technically troll-bait. I doubt there is a comment in the world that anyone could make that a troll couldn’t work with. No comment I have ever posted was designed to provoke any sort of anger. That is not what I want and I do not see that when i read my comments. However, people get angry over anything so i guess, again, that technically any comment could be considered anger provoking. I could say " I love salads." People will immediately start posting salad hate speech and assume that I don’t love bacon as much as them just because i have stated that I love salads.
I’ll be honest, I do not remember saying anything insulting. I may have slipped but I generally try not to. I think it is more a possibility that you assumed I used a term in an insulting manor.
I, for one, am not going to repeat everything that I have written over and over and over and over and over and over and over again for every person that posts. I dont expect anyone else to do that either.
For the last bit. This is very true. I strive to convey thoughts in a simple and concise manor. However, I am not a professional writer and do not claim to be. More importantly, I am having a hard time understanding what I am doing wrong when everyone is just asking questions when the answers have already been given or the questions are about items that have been taken out of context.
Again, I welcome corrections and advice. I cannot get enough of it. Thx!
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You’re claiming everybody failed to read your posts. Perhaps if it’s everyone that’s telling you that you’re wrong, the problem might be that you did a poor job trying to convey what you actually meant to type?
“Oh but you obviously didn’t read what I typed. Try reading it again until you agree with me.”
You may be absolutely correct. I may have failed to properly convey some points or even all points. In that case, it would be nice to know where and how I failed to do so. I am always trying to improve myself:D
Sir, you’ve take 4 trait points from somewhere to make hammer more useful. If that’s from strength line, you’re losing 15% power from Berserker’s power + 200 power altogether. If it’s from arms, you’re losing 250 precision. If it’s a combo of arms and discipline, you’re losing 50 precision and 150 ferocity. If it’s a combo of arms and power, you’re losing at least the 15% power from Berserker’s power. I think that you said you used leg specialist as well. That’s an additional 2 trait points from a useful line put into tactics.
All for a hammer that does less dps than gs, doesn’t apply vuln, and loses out on forceful greatsword and slashing power, no extra dodge and utilities that can be best used by other weapons.
I’ve got a feeling that you may be specializing in WvW, where hammer warrior can rule. Otherwise, it’s just not as useful in PvE. Other weapons do what it does, and better at that, all the while not forsaking group and personal deeps.
If OP wants to run hammer for fun, all the power to him, and to you if you want to do the same. Please don’t think, however, that you’re being as useful as someone w/ a gs. You’re just not, no matter what you tell yourself.
Please prove me wrong though. I like being proved wrong. Do an Abom solo w/ your hammer and we’ll compare it to a pure gs solo. That’ll show the proof in your words, and give the final answer that the OP was looking for.
You’re claiming everybody failed to read your posts. Perhaps if it’s everyone that’s telling you that you’re wrong, the problem might be that you did a poor job trying to convey what you actually meant to type?
“Oh but you obviously didn’t read what I typed. Try reading it again until you agree with me.”
You may be absolutely correct. I may have failed to properly convey some points or even all points. In that case, it would be nice to know where and how I failed to do so. I am always trying to improve myself:D
Sir, you’ve take 4 trait points from somewhere to make hammer more useful. If that’s from strength line, you’re losing 15% power from Berserker’s power + 200 power altogether. If it’s from arms, you’re losing 250 precision. If it’s a combo of arms and discipline, you’re losing 50 precision and 150 ferocity. If it’s a combo of arms and power, you’re losing at least the 15% power from Berserker’s power. I think that you said you used leg specialist as well. That’s an additional 2 trait points from a useful line put into tactics.
All for a hammer that does less dps than gs, doesn’t apply vuln, and loses out on forceful greatsword and slashing power, no extra dodge and utilities that can be best used by other weapons.
I’ve got a feeling that you may be specializing in WvW, where hammer warrior can rule. Otherwise, it’s just not as useful in PvE. Other weapons do what it does, and better at that, all the while not forsaking group and personal deeps.
If OP wants to run hammer for fun, all the power to him, and to you if you want to do the same. Please don’t think, however, that you’re being as useful as someone w/ a gs. You’re just not, no matter what you tell yourself.
Please prove me wrong though. I like being proved wrong. Do an Abom solo w/ your hammer and we’ll compare it to a pure gs solo. That’ll show the proof in your words, and give the final answer that the OP was looking for.
Do I really need to make a video, for no reason whatsoever, to prove something that WE ALL already agree on?
Well, it really seems like you’re saying that in situations other than stacking, hammer (in your opinion) is the better weapon. I wvwvw, I agree. In PvE however, it’s not.
If I’m misinterpreting, I apologize, but I’m just responding to your original statement.
But w/e though. I feel that this is /thread anyway.
You’re claiming everybody failed to read your posts. Perhaps if it’s everyone that’s telling you that you’re wrong, the problem might be that you did a poor job trying to convey what you actually meant to type?
“Oh but you obviously didn’t read what I typed. Try reading it again until you agree with me.”
You may be absolutely correct. I may have failed to properly convey some points or even all points. In that case, it would be nice to know where and how I failed to do so. I am always trying to improve myself:D
Start by not using a hammer in PvE.
“Other weapons do what it does, and better at that, all the while not forsaking group and personal deeps.”
No other weapons are better at aoe melee CC for a warrior. The hammer skills pretty much supersede utilities like kick and stomp too.
I am genuinely curious if hammer warriors actually think their crappy 2s stuns every 10 seconds is actually helping anyone in the party.
Yes the hammer works! Believe it. It’s a fair opinion to say that you don’t need a hammer because your runs have great dps and mobs die fast. Good for you. It’s fair opinion for me to say that I have been in very mediocre PUG groups with very low dps and mobs running chasing around after rifle warriors and pistol thieves, and the hammer generally sorted things out. I typically have greatsword and hammer as weapon swaps and I can tell when the hammer is working better than the greatsword. In a level 49 fractal the players are good and I hardly need the hammer, and I can often forget to dodge because someone nice gives me aegis. In a level 29 fractal the players can be bad and I need the hammer and perfect dodges too!
Not really. Why? Because instead of trying to CC a stack of trash to death, you can just let a thief throw down perma blinds while you release superior-to-hammer dps.
This seems to be a common theme amongst GS fanboys. “I’ll do what I want and someone else can do all the work.”
More like “Let a certain task be performed by a profession that exceeds at it, not by profession that’s just mediocre at said task and has to make a much bigger sacrifice to perform said task”.
You are free to use Hammer if it’s more fun for you, but your teammates are also free to kick you out of their team if they value their team’s efficiency more important than your personal enjoyment.
I have a friend in my usual party dungeon runs whose main is a hammer. Frankly I never had an issue with it… he’s awesome at using that weapon.
I have a friend in my usual party dungeon runs whose main is a hammer. Frankly I never had an issue with it… he’s awesome at using that weapon.
Being that most important mobs (bosses) are immune to the 3 CC attacks, and cripple is mostly useless, what exactly does he do that makes him good? Auto attack and…?
No to Hammer!! No to Hammer!! No to Hammer…!
My thoughts:
“I have nothing against you using hammer wherever you feel like it except for dungeons, because I have other things to do and cannot spend excessive amounts of time clearing them because a player is adamant about not using (insert any other weapon here) for ten minutes.”
PVE overworld? sure!
Wvw/Pvp? Even better!
In a dungeon? Come on bruh. It’s like you’re telling me you like wasting time.
It’s comparable to running Full Giver’s in Organized WVW blobs because you can rev people faster. The tradeoff comes at everyone else’s expense.
This game is about cooperation. When people depend on you, you play what they need.
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In a proper group, melee stacking, with limited dodging greatsword blows hammer out of the water. But it amazes me how people seem to think that Greatsword is so godlike in dungeons.
Greatsword is only significantly higher if you are melee stacking properly on mobs. Otherwise, its really not that great..
Try doing what the man says instead of posting your troll responses. In a normal group without melee stacking it does not do more damage but it is on par in terms of damage.
I have tried many builds for warrior my opinion is unbiased. I have preference but I could care less if a build is optimal or sub-optimal but I can say that his points are completely valid.
Try doing what the man says instead of posting your troll responses. In a normal group without melee stacking it does not do more damage but it is on par in terms of damage.
I have tried many builds for warrior my opinion is unbiased. I have preference but I could care less if a build is optimal or sub-optimal but I can say that his points are completely valid.
Two things catch my eye. “In a normal group without melee stacking.” All groups/pugs/whatever that I’ve joined use stack tactics since that is what is efficient. The ones that don’t use it either don’t know about it or aren’t efficient enough in their class to produce the dps needed to take out the boss fast enough or do not know the mechanics of the boss in order to avoid the damage. Inb4 spider queen gets thrown in as an example. Even in pugs, there is at least one Elementalist for AC that I have seen in my runs.
“I have tried many builds for warrior my opinion is unbiased. I have preference but I could care less if a build is optimal or sub-optimal but I can say that his points are completely valid.” IMO this statement contradicts itself, maybe I’m just interpreting it incorrectly. You’ve tried the builds an you know what works and what doesn’t, yet you don’t care whether it’s optimal or not what you run? Why would you not want to run an optimal build, since those builds are generally the ones that benefit the party the most. For most if not all bosses, hammer is not a great weapon. You have three CC skills as Tree mentioned and then you have a weak AA chain IMO, a weakness (wow) and a cripple which is more of a hassle to the team than anything else.
Greatsword is only significantly higher if you are melee stacking properly on mobs. Otherwise, its really not that great..
But… that isn’t even true. The simple coefficients / time of greatsword skills are far superior to Hammer. The fact that greatsword has traits in dps lines that boost damage AND lower cool downs and stack Might makes greatsword light years better in any circumstance.
To be specific, a GS warrior, fighting an enemy in the open (not stacked against the wall) will produce a coefficient of 1.4 per second. The Hammer warrior will make 1.045 per second. So the GS dps rotation is about 25% better than the hammer before traits are even considered and when you consider how much greatsword benefits from Slashing Power and Forceful Greatsword the comparison isn’t even fair.
Lastly, you seem to think that in “non” stacked fights (aka headless chickens running around a room with a boss in it) that a Hammer somehow performs better. In such a scenario you should understand the value of Whirl Wind Attack providing an evasion AND a high damage attack at the same time.
So I did a hammer abom kill and it clocked in at 5:12. My GS kills have all been around the 2:50 – 3:20 mark.
Take from that what you will.
So I did a hammer abom kill and it clocked in at 5:12. My GS kills have all been around the 2:50 – 3:20 mark.
Take from that what you will.
But you don’t have to worry about getting guns! See? VIABLE! http://i.imgur.com/dH8sYjK.gif
Ok I got commander tag now.
That’s the reason I don’t do pve. The worst thing is that probably they would dumb down wvw, too.
You seem confused.
But is GW2 all about dps?
The answer should and must be: NOThe answer to that question is actually yes. Use a GS please.
Yea… great way to show that you want build diversity in this game, bruh.
You seem confused.
But is GW2 all about dps?
The answer should and must be: NOThe answer to that question is actually yes. Use a GS please.
Yea… great way to show that you want build diversity in this game, bruh.
You and many others don’t seem to understand that there’s literally no other option with the instanced group content on this game than to go full-out DPS, which is why most people will shun you. You can either make your own parties with the LFG or people that play like you, but don’t expect other people to waste their own time putting up with people using “PHIW” builds because it really isn’t fair.
People like me, who have had literally nothing to do on this game other than repeatedly run the exact same paths for well over a year, don’t care about anything other than getting the paths over with, going for the fastest possible times (team records), soloing for the sake of other arbitrary goalsets (personal best times and/or selling), or laughing.
The veteran PvE players don’t have interest in doing dungeon runs with people using crappy setups. All of the people that have been around for long know what’s best and what’s worst and it’s painful (laughable) to watch warriors using hammers/rifles in dungeons.
You have the choice of being either laughed at, kicked, not using something utterly foolish, or picking your own parties.
For me personally I just don’t join groups with people using terrible setups. I’d rather not waste my own time.
But is GW2 all about dps?
The answer should and must be: NO
In Dungeons, im not even saying Pve just dungeons Yes. 5dps clear faster then any other team comp
and btw i dont mind if my teammates dont follow the meta, people can play how they want
Yes, people can play how they want. The problem is nothing else is viable, period. This is the fundamental problem GW 2 ran into the moment it launched. The “play how you want because there’s no trinity” looked great on paper. It was fresh, a change. But in the end taking away healers and tanks left us with only DPS. So the answer to “should GW2 be all about DPS?” is a resounding yes.
If you want to tank and heal and be even remotely effective at it, do WvW and PvP. For PvE, especially dungeons, it’s just a waste of time to not spec dps. I mix my builds up a bit because like a lot of people I find zerker mindless and boring, but the overall builds are always geared towards dps. You have to understand where these other players are coming from. A lot of people have the zerker mindset because, again, without the trinity, GW 2 IS just a dps game. They just don’t understand why anybody would spec for anything other than damage in PvE environments, where tanking and healing is pointless. It’s fun, I’ll openly admit it. Cleansing conditions and tossing out heals on my Ele is my favorite, but it’s better suited for PvP, and that’s just all there is to it.
Yes, people can play how they want. The problem is nothing else is viable, period. This is the fundamental problem GW 2 ran into the moment it launched. The “play how you want because there’s no trinity” looked great on paper. It was fresh, a change. But in the end taking away healers and tanks left us with only DPS. So the answer to “should GW2 be all about DPS?” is a resounding yes.
Please do the world a favor and stop using the word “viable” in this context. The word you’re looking for is “optimal”.
If you want to tank and heal and be even remotely effective at it, do WvW and PvP. For PvE, especially dungeons, it’s just a waste of time to not spec dps. I mix my builds up a bit because like a lot of people I find zerker mindless and boring, but the overall builds are always geared towards dps. You have to understand where these other players are coming from. A lot of people have the zerker mindset because, again, without the trinity, GW 2 IS just a dps game. They just don’t understand why anybody would spec for anything other than damage in PvE environments, where tanking and healing is pointless. It’s fun, I’ll openly admit it. Cleansing conditions and tossing out heals on my Ele is my favorite, but it’s better suited for PvP, and that’s just all there is to it.
Lack of trinity does not necessitate a DPS race. The DPS race exists because the bosses in PvE are pretty much immune to CC. Another contributing factor is dodge: a lot of big hits are easy to avoid by dodging.
Make bosses less immune to CC and give them some unavoidable attacks and presto, you’ve just created a demand for CC specs.
Heck, if you want to go further, you could totally put in bosses that will buff themselves with boons that can be removed/stolen/corrupted to create a demand for specs that can do that.
Man, you could even give bosses more resistance towards direct damage to make condi builds more appealing.
Yes, people can play how they want. The problem is nothing else is viable, period. This is the fundamental problem GW 2 ran into the moment it launched. The “play how you want because there’s no trinity” looked great on paper. It was fresh, a change. But in the end taking away healers and tanks left us with only DPS. So the answer to “should GW2 be all about DPS?” is a resounding yes.
Please do the world a favor and stop using the word “viable” in this context. The word you’re looking for is “optimal”.
If you want to tank and heal and be even remotely effective at it, do WvW and PvP. For PvE, especially dungeons, it’s just a waste of time to not spec dps. I mix my builds up a bit because like a lot of people I find zerker mindless and boring, but the overall builds are always geared towards dps. You have to understand where these other players are coming from. A lot of people have the zerker mindset because, again, without the trinity, GW 2 IS just a dps game. They just don’t understand why anybody would spec for anything other than damage in PvE environments, where tanking and healing is pointless. It’s fun, I’ll openly admit it. Cleansing conditions and tossing out heals on my Ele is my favorite, but it’s better suited for PvP, and that’s just all there is to it.
Lack of trinity does not necessitate a DPS race. The DPS race exists because the bosses in PvE are pretty much immune to CC. Another contributing factor is dodge: a lot of big hits are easy to avoid by dodging.
Make bosses less immune to CC and give them some unavoidable attacks and presto, you’ve just created a demand for CC specs.
Heck, if you want to go further, you could totally put in bosses that will buff themselves with boons that can be removed/stolen/corrupted to create a demand for specs that can do that.
Man, you could even give bosses more resistance towards direct damage to make condi builds more appealing.
unavoidable attacks in an mmo with a dodge feature is dumb
and as long as zerker warr has a trait that lets them bleed on crit(can be any class with these kinds of traits) that can over ride part of a fully condi specced class’s dps then i dont think they will ever be more appealing
I’m with ya OP, Hammer on warrior pve ftw
2 things about hammer for pve:
1. Unshakeable and defiant make crowd control provided by hammer pretty insignificant.
2. There is little use for crowd control outside of few occasions (i.e. veteran grawl shamans in volcanic fractal).
Now don’t get me wrong, hammer is excellent weapon. But as main weapon it excels best against non-ai controlled opponents — other players. But in pve such type of weapon is at best situational.
PVE is only about the damage and axe/GS is best atm so nobody want warrior with hammer.
We can only hope Anet will one day make dungeons that need CC/heals/armor or something fresh so support class are needed.
PVE is only about the damage and axe/GS is best atm so nobody want warrior with hammer.
We can only hope Anet will one day make dungeons that need CC/heals/armor or something fresh so support class are needed.
This game is not about that kind of gameplay. If you want to be a healer/priest/druid or whatever the hell tickles your fancy, then make an LFG post stating so. Don’t burden others with it just because that’s what you want.
Sadly, this has always been a problem with the Guild Wars community. Dating back even to the GW1 days.
People tend to just follow trends instead of respecting versatility or other perspectives. I will give you an example…
Hammer Burst got nerf because of Mace/Hammer stuns practically being unchanged since launch. A few videos surface and all of a sudden Hammer Burst is OP. Damage has always been the same the only thing that changes is the perspective of what a Hammer.
Reminds me of playing with weird Warrior builds in GW1 went 15+ win streak RT three times straight all the while having people telling me how my build was not viable.. lol
Apparition.1576 – this isn’t about PvP builds, this is about PvE. There is literally no reason to use anything other than full DPS setups for it unless you’re roleplaying. If you want to feel more immersed and this is what works for you, sure. If you want to be different than everybody else, whatever.
Just don’t expect other people to cater to it.
“There is literally no reason to use anything other than full DPS setups for it unless you’re roleplaying. "
Yes there is. A full dps set-up can get you killed in a poor groups where the mobs live long enough to attack back. Ok, you can rage quit and call everyone noobs, since it is obviously all their fault and if they played to your elite standard with excellent dps it wouldn’t happen, but actually swapping to a hammer in the right place can hide a lot of problems with a group quite nicely. All problems except elitism, seemingly.
Yeah, because doing less personal damage will help you carry pugs. You won’t use the hammer CCs on many occasions, if you do need an interrupt there’s a lot of utilities warriors can provide along with mace 5. A full dps setup, especially on a warrior, won’t get you killed in a pug. Playing a crowd control weapon when you can get a better dps weapon with built in evades and mobility, along with selfish might stacking you do need in pugs, isn’t the way to go. But as miku said, you can rp your hammer charr all you want; don’t try to defend its usefulness over other weapons, that’s all.
“There is literally no reason to use anything other than full DPS setups for it unless you’re roleplaying. "
Yes there is. A full dps set-up can get you killed in a poor groups where the mobs live long enough to attack back. Ok, you can rage quit and call everyone noobs, since it is obviously all their fault and if they played to your elite standard with excellent dps it wouldn’t happen, but actually swapping to a hammer in the right place can hide a lot of problems with a group quite nicely. All problems except elitism, seemingly.
I am extremely glad that the game developers do not carry this sentiment. This philosophy is literally the BANE of this game. According to your philosophy there is no point in even having any other set available in this game. There would be no reason to have utility slots, stances, or support weapons in the game period.
You can carry any idea that you want… on certain content like high level fractals your point maybe valid. I play a variety of builds across numerous content and can say that their are multiple ways you can play your class. There are some builds that are generally just more effective than other builds.. but the viability to play builds are mostly determine by the player.
It’s a shame there is no cure for this disease affecting the mindset of the GW community.
Because many encounters found in dungeons don’t actually require you to use certain gear types (or gear at all, for that matter) in an effort to make it so that everyone can play how they want, it results in literally everything that isn’t full-out DPS redundant (with exceptions depending on whether or not a certain utility speeds things up, for example immobilizing legendary shoggroth in Arah P1 or a warrior using ‘Fear Me!’ on sparky/slick in Aetherpath).
Everything is viable, but there’s always a best way to go about something. There’s no way around this fact — the faster you complete the objective, the more efficient you are. The outcome of a dungeon is a reward at the end of a path, rather than dispersed throughout it. This coupled with the fact that there is an obsession with completing content only once per day results in people wanting to optimize their use of time.
After the first few times running paths, they will start to feel arduous. Many players aren’t interested in putting up with people using obviously inferior setups and will simply refuse to play with people that don’t share a similar mindset. To them, it’s nothing short of annoying to know that no matter what, that person has no chance of performing as well as they could be with the setup that they know is superior and that’s why it’s pointless.
If you think that people not wanting to have anything to do with people that use inferior setups is a “disease”, then consider this!
Perhaps those same people think it is people like you that are “diseased.”
Different tastes. If you have a problem with it, find like-minded players just like they do.
Miku: That’s true for warriors ( and even then, empower was a thing in the future ex meta, as well as vuln stacking instead of pure gs/axe) , but no, full dps isn’t always optimal. See guardians or eles. I know you’re totally aware of how the game works, but that’s a needed clarification for people saying support ( as in, defensive support, not counting offensive support like might banners fury etc) doesn’t exist when meta builds aren’t the best damage dealer ones.
I’m guessing you maybe missed this part:
“(with exceptions depending on whether or not a certain utility speeds things up, for example immobilizing legendary shoggroth in Arah P1 or a warrior using ‘Fear Me!’ on sparky/slick in Aetherpath).”
It’s not entirely what you were referring to, but just pointing out that I did mention that there are exceptions. :P
Regardless of what the composition is, when it comes to dungeons it’s always suboptimal to not be geared for full-DPS.
Perhaps you’re not referring to only dungeons, I don’t know… but I’m guessing you mean open world PvE or something. In that case, then yeah you would be correct.
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You can either make your own parties with the LFG or people that play like you
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People like me, who have had literally nothing to do on this game other than repeatedly run the exact same paths for well over a year, don’t care about anything other than getting the paths over with
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For me personally I just don’t join groups with people using terrible setups. I’d rather not waste my own time.
Everything is viable, but there’s always a best way to go about something. There’s no way around this fact — the faster you complete the objective, the more efficient you are. The outcome of a dungeon is a reward at the end of a path, rather than dispersed throughout it.
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After the first few times running paths, they will start to feel arduous.
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The ‘to each their own’ philosophy I agree with. The rest…
In a game played for fun, ‘best’ and ‘most efficient’ aren’t always the same. Your ‘rewards’ are bits in a server somewhere; you can’t take them with you. Fun is dispersed throughout play sessions and the only true reward is the enjoyment you get from playing.
Which takes longer: a year of efficient play or a year of less optimal play?
(edited by GreyWraith.8394)
I play this game to have fun, so when I get bored of GS, I’ll grab my hammer. I make my own groups and everyone not happy with it can go kitten themselves.
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