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Posted by: knbBlackTemplar.3059

knbBlackTemplar.3059

And for how much signet and Adrenal health healing warrior?

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Posted by: Oglaf.1074

Oglaf.1074

Adrenal Health is not affected by Healing Power, and the Signet isn’t affected enough to make it worth it.

200 + (Healing Power * 0.033)

That’s a very poor scaling.

I can do thirty Five-Dolyak Arm Curls.

Do you even lift, bro?

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Posted by: knbBlackTemplar.3059

knbBlackTemplar.3059

Sad, very very sad, just imagine warrior with ultimate self regeneration..

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Posted by: Oglaf.1074

Oglaf.1074

That would be a Guardian.

Unfortunately.

I can do thirty Five-Dolyak Arm Curls.

Do you even lift, bro?

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Posted by: knbBlackTemplar.3059

knbBlackTemplar.3059

I’m too lazy for leveling guardian(

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Posted by: Grok Krog.9581

Grok Krog.9581

You can still be an epic self-regen warrior. With full cleric’s gear I believe I calculated Adrenal Health, Healing Signet, Regeneration from Banners, and Mango pie to get over 2.3K health every 3 seconds

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Posted by: Tru Reptile.6058

Tru Reptile.6058

Use Omnomberry Pies. It does a much better job of healing you and doesn’t gimp your dps like healing gear would.

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Posted by: knbBlackTemplar.3059

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You can still be an epic self-regen warrior. With full cleric’s gear I believe I calculated Adrenal Health, Healing Signet, Regeneration from Banners, and Mango pie to get over 2.3K health every 3 seconds

signet and banner regeneration doesn’t stack. Regeneration from signet is the same regeneration but without visible boon (So with adrenal health, signet and regeneration you still can have only 2 HoT effects)

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Posted by: Crossaber.8934

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My warrior is a shout heal warrior.

I was using rune of atlunrism before and now swapped with all soldier rune. I found the lost healing power affected the overall survivability a little. What i missed are the more effective burst heal with higher healing power and the 15% boon duration…

Healing power does matter in long battle vs waves of enemies.

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Posted by: Yaki.9563

Yaki.9563

You can still be an epic self-regen warrior. With full cleric’s gear I believe I calculated Adrenal Health, Healing Signet, Regeneration from Banners, and Mango pie to get over 2.3K health every 3 seconds

signet and banner regeneration doesn’t stack. Regeneration from signet is the same regeneration but without visible boon (So with adrenal health, signet and regeneration you still can have only 2 HoT effects)

That makes the signet awfully bad. I can’t believe I haven’t noticed this yet.

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Posted by: Soeki.9643

Soeki.9643

signet and banner regeneration doesn’t stack. Regeneration from signet is the same regeneration but without visible boon (So with adrenal health, signet and regeneration you still can have only 2 HoT effects)

That’s not correct, they do stack. With 1806 Healing Power (+ mango pies) I can achieve a 2.5k hp regen every 3 sec. Still if you’re going for self regen goodness, you’re better off with omnomberry pies. Going full cleric’s is about supporting teammates, with boons and healing. Regeneration ticks for 356, which is awesome, and if you take banner of tactics you get a heal skill too (heals around 1k), and if you use runes of altruism you can grant fury+might after your healing skill to teammates or with water runes you can heal them for around 1.6k. Healing signet is a good choice, since with high healing power the passive becomes quite strong and due to low cooldown it is the most spammable for these extra effects

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Posted by: phantomFury.9168

phantomFury.9168

FWIW, the wiki indicates that the Signet of Healing’s “regeneration” is different from the regeneration boon.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Healing_Signet

So, I really hate to say it… but it just seems if one is going to give up such a HUGE amount of damage by going full out Cleric’s gear to play a party support role, why play warrior? Cleric’s gear sacrifices two of three legs of the direct damage table; Precision/Critical Chance and Critical Damage. It then sacrifices a chunk of Power, the third and most important leg, by moving Power from a primary stat to a secondary stat on the gear.

I guess if your group has several other high/glassy DPS builds, overall damage loss isn’t huge and made up in keeping the DPS’ers alive. I may be biased, because when running AC with my guild, health is typically not a problem for our group; we normally have 2-3 very high crit chance warrior DPS’ers running Omnoberry Pies; we’ve got our own health taken care of so long as we avoid the freight train hits from the bosses. Our issue is normally condition removal. That’s where… our Guardian comes in with his Shouts/Altruistic Healing build, with Soldier’s runes. He keeps up clean, and he is nearly unkillable.

Healing signet is a good choice, since with high healing power the passive becomes quite strong and due to low cooldown it is the most spammable for these extra effects

Errr…. passive becomes quite strong? A full blown healing power build can net maybe 1600ish healing power? This means Healing Signet goes from a base of 208 Health per second to 260ish Health per second. I’d hardly call 52 health points a second “quite strong”. Also, if you’ve got it on cooldown, you aren’t getting the passive healing effect.

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Posted by: Oglaf.1074

Oglaf.1074

Healing Signet starts out as the hands-down best Healing ability for Warriors, but it rapidly loses usefulness due to bad scaling.

I can do thirty Five-Dolyak Arm Curls.

Do you even lift, bro?

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Posted by: Scootabuser.4915

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this entire thread makes me cry

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Posted by: Soeki.9643

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That’s correct Healing Signet heals me for 268 per tick, and the extra 58hp/sec doesn’t seem much but with adrenal health+regen+food it does add up to give a really strong health regen (also Healing Surge is a lot better without Healing Power, but for a regen build Signet seems the obvious choice). Going full cleric is obviously not the best choice for a warrior, going berserk/knight with omnom pies triumphs it in nearly all aspects.

Still it’s there, and it is somewhat effective (more so then most warriors think). You can clear conditions with shouts if you go soldier runes or even better grab a warhorn get quick breathing and convert conditions into boons. Perma regen is great too, not to mention swiftness (though it has more uses outside PvE).

I won’t elaborate further, if you’re up for it give it a go, I’ve been running a build like this and while it’s certainly lacks damage, it’s nice for a change and not useless

Edit: I think you can get around 1950ish Healing Power if you go only for that

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Posted by: Oglaf.1074

Oglaf.1074

You keep mentioning Adrenal Health.

You are aware that this Trait is unaffected by Healing Power?

I can do thirty Five-Dolyak Arm Curls.

Do you even lift, bro?

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Posted by: Soeki.9643

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If you would do the math behind my numbers you’d know that I am aware of it.

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Posted by: Oglaf.1074

Oglaf.1074

Math? Me? Never.

I can do thirty Five-Dolyak Arm Curls.

Do you even lift, bro?

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Posted by: Grok Krog.9581

Grok Krog.9581

Actually, knbBlackTemplar. They do stack. I bet you 10 gold that if you put on Healing Signet, get Regneration from banners, take fall damage in LA, you will see 2 different heals tick

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