Guild Wars 2

Hello:

Could anyone please recommend viable and current shout builds for the warrior.

Thank you so much!

Lorena

take shout heal and shout cd trait, equip shouts
???
thats it

This is what I usually run when i’m in a zerg.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vIAQNAS3ejMdU5ZnHOewJaAB94K0wqQVYOSPED0INA-TsAg0CnIySllLLTWyssZN0YRwmAA

Above is a crapbuild….
This is what most shoutheal warriors run in WWW.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vIAQNBiYDbkpjKP78wxD6QDIoHaIXIgqCwR6BawGpBA-zUwAV2ioxCA-w

I’d not take any of your builds. Leg specialist is not good enough to sacrifice empowered allies. If you run healing shouts build, you’re going group specced. Keep in mind though that the shouts bring sustain to your group, not healing.

That means there is 3 traits that you will find best suitable. Lung Capacity, Empower Allies and Healing Shouts. Empower allies brings 150 power to all your party! Do the math. Both of you have fitted Soldier runes which is perfect, but why do you want Quick Breathing? It’s not good enough with all the condi removal you allready have. Empower allies!

You only want to go 25 into Defense. that extra 5 you want for -5 seconds on weapon swap. You do want the 10% from toughness to power though. Dogged march and cleansing ire ofcourse.

That means 15 in discipline. We have one trait slot here. Use it wisely. If you use dolyak signet you need the cd trait for signets. I don’t like dolyaks because you never benefit from the toughness. You don’t need more than 2K toughness if you play OK and that is easily attainable by only armor stats and from defense traitline. If you want stability(not a bad idea.) you want the stance for 20 sec shorter cooldown and you gain a trait. Warrior’s sprint or Mighty Defenses I’d say. I only use cleansing ire for gaining adrenalin and it’s back up before cd is in most cases. If you feel it’s important enough you could go inspiring shouts. Mighty defenses is very situational and I allready have alot of might from my group so I use warrior’s sprint since it’s always active and not an extra mechanic to think about.

I never zerg though. This build is used for small skrimish ganking squads. It’s working a charm. It’s best suited for one party groups. 5 people.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vIEQNAS8ejMd06ZlHeeQHaABzQDrC9h5I9ANIj0A-zUyAYMBZKCA9BOBWEN2KbR0Y12Y6zkqcFk9JJlUALpMC-w

This is what my shout build looks like.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vIEQNBiYDbkpjKP78wxD6QDIoHaYVwFqC2R6BaQGpBA-zEDBYfCyUEw0HQUBAZmZN1UQM7EpyqIas6aYKXAaYQqYK1kCYJlRA-w

If you plan on running frontline in large (15 to 25) organized groups you should aim for 3.2k armor without Dolyak signet. That way when you health drops below 90% and you lose the effect of Thick Skin you still have 3k armor if your Signet is on CD. Since you pretty much always have a speed buff when running in groups Warrior Sprint is not needed, Signet Mastery is a better choice, you will need that extra stability. Empower Allies is too much of a good group DPS boost to not take in Shout builds which tend to lack DPS.

With this set up you get 32% crit chance once you get your stacks up which in combats is 52% most of the time due to the abundance of Fury being thrown around. With a 60% crit damage, it’s not too shabby.

I prefer Merciless Hammer over fast hands since I spend more time on Hammer in a fight and the extra 25% against disabled foes is too good not to have. Warhorn skills are on a 15 and 20 sec CD so the there is no real need to be switching back and forth all the time.

Here are some baseline (minimums) stats that I look for when making a frontline builds whether they be DPS or Support.
2k power
30% crit chance
50% crit damage
minimum in combat armor 3k (3.4 with thick skin and Doly Sig.)
22k health

I assume the OP wants to Zerg? Otherwise listen to the honest truth shout builds sacrifice so much trait points and Utility slots. Unless your group needs it, stances and shields will give you personally more survivability than shouts. Fact is you are gimping yourself to support the group and your own survival is less because of it. When it comes to going the extra mile with soldier runes you scacrifices so much stats that you dont need. You dont need the vit and you also dont need the condi clears for yourself. You have basically kitten yourself very badly here to support bad players who cant sustain themselves. So you can zerg in a train.

You are forced to pick up determined revival, fast healer and revivers might. These are the 3 minor traits in Compasion and every single one of these are garbage and help you none.

Compared to guardians who get vigorous precision, selfless daring, elusive power. Way better. Elementalists who go 30 in water, soothing mist,healing ripple, bountiful power again way better.

When we are comparing eles, guardians and warriors. Warriors are worst as group support than the other 2 and make bigger sacrifices than the other 2 to contribute.

So again unless you are zerging or your group needs warriors to kitten themselves to support them, just don’t you are better off with other traits utilities. Especially when roaming or in small groups unless you play with bads then yes they will need your help because their builds are bad.

Heres a little history lesson. Back in the day Shout builds were still bad but not that bad. A. there once was no AOE cap on shouts.
B. Berserkers Power and Hietened Focouse were 10 point investments making them usable for shout builds.
C. Leg specialist used to have no ICD.
D. Empowered used to give 2% damage per boon.

Conclusion all of this stuff is gone meaning shout hammer warriors suck. People who still think its good are new players or don’t know how to play and want warriors to banner them cuz they go down alot and need heals. Or play gurdians who think they are DDs more than Warriors and want warriors to play guardian and want to play their guardians like warriors.

the amount of terrible zerg warrior shout builds in this thread is immense. its no wonder theres so many terrible zerg hammer train guilds

wads.5730:

the amount of terrible zerg warrior shout builds in this thread is immense. its no wonder theres so many terrible zerg hammer train guilds

Terrible zerg warrior shout builds? Go ask some of the top GvG guilds what their warrior build composition is. Most of them run a good portion of tanky shout warriors with a few higher DPS builds. The Hammer train meta is soldier runes healing shouts. It didn’t become meta because it was terrible.

Julie Yann.5379:

wads.5730:

the amount of terrible zerg warrior shout builds in this thread is immense. its no wonder theres so many terrible zerg hammer train guilds

Terrible zerg warrior shout builds? Go ask some of the top GvG guilds what their warrior build composition is. Most of them run a good portion of tanky shout warriors with a few higher DPS builds. The Hammer train meta is soldier runes healing shouts. It didn’t become meta because it was terrible.

i wasnt talking about shout heal builds in general, i was talking about the builds linked in this thread. did you even look at them?

wads.5730:

Julie Yann.5379:

wads.5730:

the amount of terrible zerg warrior shout builds in this thread is immense. its no wonder theres so many terrible zerg hammer train guilds

Terrible zerg warrior shout builds? Go ask some of the top GvG guilds what their warrior build composition is. Most of them run a good portion of tanky shout warriors with a few higher DPS builds. The Hammer train meta is soldier runes healing shouts. It didn’t become meta because it was terrible.

i wasnt talking about shout heal builds in general, i was talking about the builds linked in this thread. did you even look at them?

yes I did, I agree that they weren’t great builds. That’s why I posted my own, did you even look at it?

Julie Yann.5379:

wads.5730:

the amount of terrible zerg warrior shout builds in this thread is immense. its no wonder theres so many terrible zerg hammer train guilds

Terrible zerg warrior shout builds? Go ask some of the top GvG guilds what their warrior build composition is. Most of them run a good portion of tanky shout warriors with a few higher DPS builds. The Hammer train meta is soldier runes healing shouts. It didn’t become meta because it was terrible.

Have to disagree. It became the meta because it was terrible. Majority of GW2 WvW players are bad. It became the meta because its easy mode for bad players. If you think the reasons are because it requires skill, or it took educated and smart people to figure it out you are wrong on both accounts. Neither of which is true. It is the meta simply because its easy for bad players to play and hammer trains require no skill at all to function. Low risk High reward.

As far as you saying that TOP GvG guilds use it. GVG isn’t the pentacle of all GW2 skill and and tactic and achievement. GVG is limited to 15-20. Top GVG guilds don’t run high melee heavy they maybe run 3-4 Warriors. They simply can’t afford to waste party spots on shout warriors the ones that do the warriors are the least important professions.

Here is EP destroying AGG a hammer train guild. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFNClvV5UR8

Warlord.9074:

Julie Yann.5379:

wads.5730:

the amount of terrible zerg warrior shout builds in this thread is immense. its no wonder theres so many terrible zerg hammer train guilds

Terrible zerg warrior shout builds? Go ask some of the top GvG guilds what their warrior build composition is. Most of them run a good portion of tanky shout warriors with a few higher DPS builds. The Hammer train meta is soldier runes healing shouts. It didn’t become meta because it was terrible.

Have to disagree. It became the meta because it was terrible. Majority of GW2 WvW players are bad. It became the meta because its easy mode for bad players. If you think the reasons are because it requires skill, or it took educated and smart people to figure it out you are wrong on both accounts. Neither of which is true. It is the meta simply because its easy for bad players to play and hammer trains require no skill at all to function. Low risk High reward.

As far as you saying that TOP GvG guilds use it. GVG isn’t the pentacle of all GW2 skill and and tactic and achievement. GVG is limited to 15-20. Top GVG guilds don’t run high melee heavy they maybe run 3-4 Warriors. They simply can’t afford to waste party spots on shout warriors the ones that do the warriors are the least important professions.

Here is EP destroying AGG a hammer train guild. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFNClvV5UR8

I was sitting on the hill for some of those fights, good show. I’ve tagged along with EP quite a bit when they weren’t GvGing back when I was on SoS. They run a strong backline and I agree that with that type of team comp. a shout warrior is really not needed. It’s a different story when you run a heavy melee comp.

edit: Just confirmed that EP does use Shout warriors.

wads.5730:

the amount of terrible zerg warrior shout builds in this thread is immense. its no wonder theres so many terrible zerg hammer train guilds

Sorry, I never Zerg so can’t speak for that. Please contribute to the thread then?

If you want a well-rounded shouts/condition build that isn’t another variation of wet toilet paper glass cannon, take a look at my build. Link below.