Help with Hammer - sw/sh build

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Posted by: Metallus.7690

Metallus.7690

Hi there

I have a lvl 80 warrior sitting in my account and I haven’t used it for months if not for the occasional quick cof p1, running full zerk.

Now, recently I really am into wvw and would like to dust off my warrior. I’ve seen many people running hammer + sword/shield and being nearly unkillable, with tons of boons up and stability always there.

The current equipment I have is
- Full zerk armor + ruby orbs
- Full zerk trinkets
- Full soldier trinkets
- Zerk weapons

I’ve seen that many run with something like this http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAS8OGQQP0wqgLUPmjNMOSFEDA-w
But I wanted to know which utilities, heals and, most important of all, WHICH GEAR I should use.

I cannot run full GC warrior just like I run my SD engi or mesmer; I just get 1shot. Which stats should I aim at? Which runes should I use? Many use cavalier armor that boosts critical damage but leave unaltered the chance: is it really wise to run around with 100% crit dmg and like… 20-30% crit chance?

Thanks for your attention, hoping you can help me out here

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Posted by: Julie Yann.5379

Julie Yann.5379

Will you be roaming or zerging? For roaming I would first try full Zerk with melandru runes. It would look something like this.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAS8ejkOtwpQGPMxBE0DNsK4CThfQ9YO2w4A-jEyAYfBZCCE9BmKAk8KiGbZsIas6aMlLRUtUALJMC-w

Take the 10 points in discipline, put them in Strength and pick up Great Fortitude, leg specialist is really lack luster.

I woudl start with that, if you are comfortable with then great, if not try swapping some of your zerk for something with more toughness and vitality.

Be careful what you wish for, Anet might just give it to you “HoT”
“…let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we shall die;.”

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Posted by: Metallus.7690

Metallus.7690

I’m a roamer.

So you say full zerk will be ok? I thought I was being too squishy, thieves 2shot me (16k backstab, 7k HS :S)

Also, melandru runes and -40% condition duration food I guess?

Edit:
Just saw that you reach 2.8k armor, perhaps I didn’t take into account the 300 armor from defense tree + the 165 from runes. I’ll try that setup and let you know, thanks

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Posted by: Julie Yann.5379

Julie Yann.5379

I’m a roamer.

So you say full zerk will be ok? I thought I was being too squishy, thieves 2shot me (16k backstab, 7k HS :S)

Also, melandru runes and -40% condition duration food I guess?

Edit:
Just saw that you reach 2.8k armor, perhaps I didn’t take into account the 300 armor from defense tree + the 165 from runes. I’ll try that setup and let you know, thanks

A zerk thief will be able to 2-3 shot you no matter what armor you have. At least with this build you have enough power to 2 shot him back. I would go with -36% food, way cheaper and just as effective. Dolyak Signet is your oh kitten button, don’t use it unless you really have to.

Be careful what you wish for, Anet might just give it to you “HoT”
“…let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we shall die;.”

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Posted by: Metallus.7690

Metallus.7690

I’m a roamer.

So you say full zerk will be ok? I thought I was being too squishy, thieves 2shot me (16k backstab, 7k HS :S)

Also, melandru runes and -40% condition duration food I guess?

Edit:
Just saw that you reach 2.8k armor, perhaps I didn’t take into account the 300 armor from defense tree + the 165 from runes. I’ll try that setup and let you know, thanks

A zerk thief will be able to 2-3 shot you no matter what armor you have. At least with this build you have enough power to 2 shot him back. I would go with -36% food, way cheaper and just as effective. Dolyak Signet is your oh kitten button, don’t use it unless you really have to.

Man, thanks a lot

Tonight I’ve been using the build you gave me with the suggested runes and food and I noticed a drastic change. I no longer get melted and can now easily manage 2vs1 situations. Before I couldn’t stand for more than few seconds without going down.

Also, adrenal regen + healin signet provide a stable ca 800 heal. I can feel the power now

Thanks a lot again

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Posted by: Warlord.9074

Warlord.9074

“Competent” Hammers arn’t really effective vs competent players in WvW 1v1 imo. At least against professions with at least 2 dodges and stability. And defiantly not vs professions that are good at kiting and dodging. That are competent. Sword and shield on the other hand is really good. I think Sword Shield GS or Axe shield GS is much better for solo roaming or small groups but to each their own.

As a warrior I fought many other warriors with the same build you guys have posted and they didn’t fare that well at least not by themselves.

The thing with the Zerker one if you land all your skills then it is GG but if a competent player dodges your CC your going to go down pretty fast and you don’t really have that much mobility.

The tanky one that the other player posted is fine but the DPS isn’t great so if you run aginst again a competent player would good survivability your DPS won’t be that good and if his DPS is better than yours its GG.

“Just press 2 to win all the dps was us cuz we’re a
warrior and we’re the best class” Eugene

(edited by Warlord.9074)

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Posted by: Julie Yann.5379

Julie Yann.5379

A zerk thief will be able to 2-3 shot you no matter what armor you have.

No… no, no, that’s simply not true.

OP aim for at least 3200 tough. It’s going to kitten your damage slightly since you’re full zerk, but it will allow you enough room to actually win some 1v2 or 1v3’s provided you are good enough. Which will never happen against competent players (key word competent) if you are running full zerk.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAS8ejkOtwFPyQMxBE0DNsK4iTBoQ9wOqj4A-jkCBYgCyEEQkIwUBAZmKrZnCiVQFRjVbDT5SISFL1SBwkyI-w

That’s what I run for roaming and pug zergs. I picked up heightened focus in the discipline tree, due to the low crit chance without fury, and 10% damage on one of your attacks the only crits for 3-4k isn’t better than a potential 15% chance to crit

People that are in full zerk get smacked for 4-6k crits consistently while there numbers on you are nowhere near as high.

I may have over exagerated, but a zerk thief can easily kill you even if you have 3200 armor, I know that’s what I have on my build. Some people do quite well going full zerk and can 1v2 1v3 against decent players. 1v2 1v3 is nearly impossible versus equally skill players with good builds. The reason I suggested to try full zerk is that he already has all the gear minus the runes. It’s less of an investment. If he finds that he needs a little more survivability he can always add some in.

@ Warlord it truly is to each our own. I have never lost to a GS warrior with my Hammer SwSh build. Although it might not be the best weapon set for roaming, d/p thieves and PU mesmers and that crazy Engi build are very hard counters to it but it is quite viable and a lot of lolz.

Be careful what you wish for, Anet might just give it to you “HoT”
“…let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we shall die;.”

(edited by Julie Yann.5379)

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Posted by: Warlord.9074

Warlord.9074

This is what I run. http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAseRjkOtutQGPMxBE0jrQDxiLjxbK0HsDA-j0CBYLCiEBRkKAI7pIasVQFRjVXDT5SQWFLpWzAmzKaW0pWKglUGB-w

Been effective vs hammer warriors and anything I cant kill I can just run from.

“Just press 2 to win all the dps was us cuz we’re a
warrior and we’re the best class” Eugene

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Posted by: perko.8309

perko.8309

This is what I run. http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAseRjkOtutQGPMxBE0jrQDxiLjxbK0HsDA-j0CBYLCiEBRkKAI7pIasVQFRjVXDT5SQWFLpWzAmzKaW0pWKglUGB-w

Been effective vs hammer warriors and anything I cant kill I can just run from.

Is food / Dogged March enough to survive some of the Condi spammers? Or are those some that you run from?

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Posted by: perko.8309

perko.8309

Also, adrenal regen + healin signet provide a stable ca 800 heal. I can feel the power now

Thanks a lot again

I don’t want to be a buzzkill, but HS + AH ain’t 800 hps. AH is 360 every 3 sec – and that’s with full Adrenaline all the time (which you won’t have). AH is more like an extra avg 60 hps when F1 is used a lot. But hey, you’re havin’ fun.

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Posted by: Warlord.9074

Warlord.9074

This is what I run. http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAseRjkOtutQGPMxBE0jrQDxiLjxbK0HsDA-j0CBYLCiEBRkKAI7pIasVQFRjVXDT5SQWFLpWzAmzKaW0pWKglUGB-w

Been effective vs hammer warriors and anything I cant kill I can just run from.

Is food / Dogged March enough to survive some of the Condi spammers? Or are those some that you run from?

those are the ones I run from

“Just press 2 to win all the dps was us cuz we’re a
warrior and we’re the best class” Eugene

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Posted by: Metallus.7690

Metallus.7690

Also, adrenal regen + healin signet provide a stable ca 800 heal. I can feel the power now

Thanks a lot again

I don’t want to be a buzzkill, but HS + AH ain’t 800 hps. AH is 360 every 3 sec – and that’s with full Adrenaline all the time (which you won’t have). AH is more like an extra avg 60 hps when F1 is used a lot. But hey, you’re havin’ fun.

Ye you are right; I assumed that the 360 from AH and 407 from HS that I saw totaled up for an average 800 heal per sec. I just didn’t pay enough attention while playing and thought the 360 was every sec. It still makes me tanky a lot, not having problems surviving, since I can always shield myself and leap in africa with sword.

Also, thanks to warlord for the other build using GS, I’ll try it out when I get tired of hammer.