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Posted by: Choppy.4183

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How are you might stacking? I don’t see any sources of might here except SoR, weapon swap, and whatever you might get from runes and battle sigil. That’s ok might, but not pretty standard fare for warriors.

Also, it appears you have additional buffs on there that aren’t accounted for, as far as I can tell. For example, based on your description I’d expect you to have 1180 toughness (1000 base plus 180 from doly signet), but you have 1340. Do you know where this buff is coming from?

Finally, how would you get to 27k health from here?

Could you put the build into this: http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-w;9;9;9;9;9;9;5Fy

It’ll help track down what’s missing. Thanks.

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Posted by: Choppy.4183

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Thanks. It looks like a fun high-damage build, though I still don’t see where the might stacking (not that you need it) or how you’d get your health pool up to 27k.

That last piece in particular interests me because the biggest obstacle to running the zerk h/gs build that’s been popular in wvw for so long is lack of damage and condi mitigation in a world that’s become much more dangerous, and reduced mobility and escape via greatsword.

A big health pool of 27k on what’s otherwise a very high damage and control build would help offset that.

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Posted by: Exos.3472

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Please correct if i’m wrong :
21k Health (maybe a bit more with guard staks)
2591 Armor
Might generation from Heal Skill, SoR and weapon swap
Healing Signet, Berserker stance, brawler recovery for condi management
no condi reduction
Active defense : 1 endure pain

Hmmm.

Although the damage can be quite high, it isnt maximised (no forceful greatsword) so your might generation is low. And you active defense consists of Berserker Stance and one Endure Pain.

Basically, you can survive one burst but not two.

I don’t see this build winning against any d/p thief who would just stealth when the stance procs, reset the fight while your 1 min CD are off and just kill you. Same for medi guard who’d block or go invul and burst again.

Now i know this is suppose to be a kill or be killed, but i just don’t see how you could react in those situations…

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Posted by: Exos.3472

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Ah. I didn’t factor the Robust stacks, that’s why (i’m not in game right now) which makes the build go up to 23.99k

Seems legit, i’ll give it a try although i’d be more confident with a few more stances. (balance is on a 40 sec CD, and i rarely need 10 stacks in roaming context)

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Posted by: Choppy.4183

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I left you a message in game if you would like i can show you how to get it

Cool, thanks. Hopefully we can find a time when we’re both online and, ideally, we’ll be able to test it your build with your food and utility buffs.

I’m predicting that strength based builds will overcome yours in duels, unless you land a stun lock, but it’s still a solid build that has the same logic as the great h/gs builds that have come before it, so its still solid.

My main hesitation with it is really the lack of mitigation in a more lethal Wvw. Pop your long CD stances and you’re hanging out there unless you’ve contained all of the threat in your stuns. That was always a risk before, but it seems even more so now.

I still haven’t found the balance there myself, where I find roaming bands of all sorts of trouble (a buddy had 6k bleed per tick on him last night in a small skirmish). I’m still experimenting though.

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Posted by: darkaheart.4265

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Traits:

Strength: Peak Preformance/Restorative Strength , Great Fortitude, Berserker’s Power

Defense: Dodging March, Armor Attack, Cleansing Ire

Discipline: Warrior Sprint,Brawler Recovery, Merc Hammer

why arent you running Forceful Greatsword? you’ll be losing around 2k health but you’ll get more benefits. especially faster might stacking = more damage and hammer will also benefit from it.

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Posted by: BlackTruth.6813

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I’m not going to pick this build over Tarcis’ GS/Hammer. It’s just so bad and kinda shows someone who has no experience in sPvP. Who does air/battle and fire/cleansing? No energy sigil for reckless dodge? Great fortitude over the great sword trait? Just god, not even a 6.5/10 but a 1/10.

Yeah your version is just bad. People should just use Tarcis’ version. Like even Burr’s bulls charge build isn’t even bad compared to this and that’s saying a lot.

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Posted by: infinityandbeyond.9652

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I’m not going to pick this build over Tarcis’ GS/Hammer. It’s just so bad and kinda shows someone who has no experience in sPvP. Who does air/battle and fire/cleansing? No energy sigil for reckless dodge? Great fortitude over the great sword trait? Just god, not even a 6.5/10 but a 1/10.

Yeah your version is just bad. People should just use Tarcis’ version. Like even Burr’s bulls charge build isn’t even bad compared to this and that’s saying a lot.

Black’s posts are even more hilarious than his twitch channel.And that’s saying a lot.

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Posted by: SilentNightX.1689

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I’m not going to pick this build over Tarcis’ GS/Hammer. It’s just so bad and kinda shows someone who has no experience in sPvP. Who does air/battle and fire/cleansing? No energy sigil for reckless dodge? Great fortitude over the great sword trait? Just god, not even a 6.5/10 but a 1/10.

Yeah your version is just bad. People should just use Tarcis’ version. Like even Burr’s bulls charge build isn’t even bad compared to this and that’s saying a lot.

I think you might be an idiot. Seeing as this is not even an spvp build. Try making constructive comments; though from your lack of recognizing that food and merc stacks are required to make this build, you probably don’t know what the word constructive is.

Haha nice bra. That burn was perfect. Black is an idiot. He hasnt even tried the build. so far i like it way more then the gimk strength, discipline, arm build which has kitten for survivability. 9/10 on build. i think the onlt they that should be changed is maybe using an energy rune on like gs maybe. Though i used your build exactly and i have yet to die to a thief when rocking the 27k hp and 2.7k armor.