Guild Wars 2

Yes I know LB is awesome with many builds. Has burning, bleeds, aoe, blindness, and immobolize. But everyone uses it and I’m tired of it as well.
I do love the rifle, love the sound of the empty shells hitting the ground but it doesn’t seem to see much use. Is there ever going to be a buff/rework for this weapon? Do any of you use it differently than others that really makes a difference? I would really like to use the rifle more on my warrior. Have 2 armor sets so far, condi/prec for dual sword build and a tanky armor set. Traits I change very often to glass cannon, shouts, shield/physical and others. But would like to know how those of you building for Rifle have made it work?

Full zerk+Scholar with 30/10/0/0/30 trait and precision foods. Rifle+Axe/Shield(5% dmg on all). This is a troll build, it won’t really work that well on a lot of occasion, but landing those high crit damage using killshot on opponent that does not suspect it feels good. Even if he did, just timed your shield bash and evis the kitten out of him. You will most definitely die fast though.

I mainly use it in group fights to stack Vulnerability. Rifle #4, Volley, swap weapons, Axe#2, smash away as each crit has the chance to apply Vulnerability. Also, Opportunist trait works well for keeping WvW players from getting into keeps to defend.

I use it to catch thieves sometimes. If I am fighting a decent thief that is giving people problems, I will switch longbow out for rifle. When he pops shadow refuge, I butt him out or fear. When he runs, I use cripple and leg specialist.

Other than that, I find longbow better.

I like using it in my inventory.

I don’t even have my rifle skills unlocked.

Yeah I noticed it looks good in my inventory as well. Trying to make it work with my condition/high crit s/s build but it just doesn’t work for me. I am usually blinded by many classes or there is a thief/mesmer with 50 stealths avoiding all my shots.

I don’t listen/read the podcasts that ANet does nor do I really care for it since what they talk about and balance around is not wvw or pve but spvp and such (this is from all the threads I read from many forums channels). But have they ever mentioned anything about warrior rifle?

Rifle is a dead weapon, simply don’t use it.

I guess I can always just use it in LA and shoot randomly to hear the nice effects it has. This should be brought to ANets attention. A weapon that only 2 classes can use and its broken/useless for one of those classes.

Myzaky.4962:

Rifle is a dead weapon, simply don’t use it.

Why would you even say that?

I don’t use Rifle as it is such a sucky weapon atm. Its purpose is to snipe with f1 skill all the upscaled blue geared players in WvW and then film it + post in forums how good it is with their 20k+ dmg crits.

Nuorus.8415:

I don’t use Rifle as it is such a sucky weapon atm. Its purpose is to snipe with f1 skill all the upscaled blue geared players in WvW and then film it + post in forums how good it is with their 20k+ dmg crits.

Wow you are going to make so many people angry. It’s true of course, and that’s why they are going to get angry.

as a ranger i realy want an as bad weapon as your rifle

kokiman.2364:

Myzaky.4962:

Rifle is a dead weapon, simply don’t use it.

Why would you even say that?

Because it’s honestly a terrible weapon used by terrible warriors. Whenever we see a warrior in a group fight using one we just target him immediately because we know he’s an easy kill and glassy.

In a 1v1 it’s a joke. It’s one of the easiest fights I’ll have.

EvilSardine.9635:

kokiman.2364:

Myzaky.4962:

Rifle is a dead weapon, simply don’t use it.

Why would you even say that?

Because it’s honestly a terrible weapon used by terrible warriors. Whenever we see a warrior in a group fight using one we just target him immediately because we know he’s an easy kill and glassy.

In a 1v1 it’s a joke. It’s one of the easiest fights I’ll have.

I’m not exactly sure what you are saying, as in group fights, i go unnoticed. In fact rifles are best in group fights, as it leaves kill shot much more viable, after all, why should someone attack someone with a bad weapon? And traited it can penetrate, hitting multiple people. In 1v1 I still find it viable, especially against thief’s who think that kill shot doesn’t target them while they are in stealth. For those of you who don’t know what I’m talking about. If you start to charge kill shot on a thief and they go stealth, the shot will still be aimed at them, no matter where they go. I’ve gotten many kill shots on people in just by taking pot shots at them when they think ill start off with volley, they get close and i rifle butt them back, then start kill shot. This way I rarely miss kill shot. It’s really not that bad of a weapon, like when people say hammer is easy to dodge its animations. It is easy but that doesn’t make it a bad weapon. You just need to be smart with a rifle is all I’m saying.

I like the style of the rifle and it is quite solid and reliable for PvE . For PvP it do needs some love though

I use rifle in PvE all the time because NPCs are not too smart. I would use it in WvW in a zerg but not if I were going to do any 1v1. Even in a zerg you’re probably better with a LB since you can get AoE. Maybe good in small groups as another poster said, for sniping, but I’ve never used it in that type of instance, so can’t really comment on its effectiveness.

This is definitely the best way to use a rifle.

Everytime I see a Rifle Warrior in WvW I die a little inside.

kokiman.2364:

Myzaky.4962:

Rifle is a dead weapon, simply don’t use it.

Why would you even say that?

Look, i really wanted to love the rifle, i used a rifle in the past even in PVP and it was a lot of fun, i used to feel like a space marine using a rifle + hammer but nowadays the weapon really sux, i don’t know about 6 months ago when i had a lot of fun killing the noobs. I wish the rifle was any good like the other weapons but you have to face the truth, rifle is a bad weapon and that’s it!

Sorry for my english.

Rifle is good for PvE when melee isn’t an option.

Otherwise Longbow is more a WvW weapon.

I like my rifle because it’s on my charr and it’s a charrzooka. That’s why I use it.

Supreme.7352:

Rifle is good for PvE when melee isn’t an option.

Otherwise Longbow is more a WvW weapon.

I like my rifle because it’s on my charr and it’s a charrzooka. That’s why I use it.

Same reason I try to force myself to use a rifle. That and the lore of the Charr makes it perfect for me to carry a rifle around. This should come to the attention of the devs in the near future. Rifles do have great designs and I would like for Warrior to have another viable build besides LB.

Supreme.7352:

Rifle is good for PvE when melee isn’t an option.

No. No it isn’t. Longbow gives more damage & utility than a rifle when ranged is needed (is it ever needed?). Rifle is junk, let it sit in your bags and rot.

i use it on my new lvl80 warri together with longbow hahaha.
but pve only. but its fun.
perma fury (stacks go up to 1min50secs if u time it properly) and mightstacks with boonduration 80% and condi duration on enemies at 60% (even though my gear is still bad and not optimized) and mobs are bleeding burning like mad, rest is rifle 3 or 5 crits. they even bleed like mad from longbows pinshot alone.

fun for boring pve roaming at least^^.

AzzaCin.3691:

Supreme.7352:

Rifle is good for PvE when melee isn’t an option.

Otherwise Longbow is more a WvW weapon.

I like my rifle because it’s on my charr and it’s a charrzooka. That’s why I use it.

Same reason I try to force myself to use a rifle. That and the lore of the Charr makes it perfect for me to carry a rifle around. This should come to the attention of the devs in the near future. Rifles do have great designs and I would like for Warrior to have another viable build besides LB.

Me2..Im playing charr and i love to use rifle (close to finish predator) but in current state i will not use it as its makes me a freekill. I like melee+range set so i am forced to use lb that i dislike. Maybe in next year they take care of it.

I actually posted some suggestions here:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/Rifle-x-any-other-warriors-roll-this/first#post3002657

Flissy.4093:

Supreme.7352:

Rifle is good for PvE when melee isn’t an option.

No. No it isn’t. Longbow gives more damage & utility than a rifle when ranged is needed (is it ever needed?). Rifle is junk, let it sit in your bags and rot.

Even better, longbow gives you a fire field on the burst skill and your third weapon skill is a blast finisher so you can spam might stacks.

Buzzcrave.6197:

Full zerk+Scholar with 30/10/0/0/30 trait and precision foods. Rifle+Axe/Shield(5% dmg on all). This is a troll build, it won’t really work that well on a lot of occasion, but landing those high crit damage using killshot on opponent that does not suspect it feels good. Even if he did, just timed your shield bash and evis the kitten out of him. You will most definitely die fast though.

Pretty much what he said – mainly the bit about killshot. I find that the rifle in general is not terribly useful, but killshot hits hilariously hard sometimes. And I grin every time I down someone with it (which isn’t often, cause I don’t use rifle much anymore)

what if the autoattack did as much damage as hip shot?

Buzzcrave.6197:

Full zerk+Scholar with 30/10/0/0/30 trait and precision foods. Rifle+Axe/Shield(5% dmg on all). This is a troll build, it won’t really work that well on a lot of occasion, but landing those high crit damage using killshot on opponent that does not suspect it feels good. Even if he did, just timed your shield bash and evis the kitten out of him. You will most definitely die fast though.

This guy has it dead right im run a full berk/Assassin 30.10.0.0.30 traits with max precision foods and oil i’m running at 3800 attack, 101% crit chance and 114% crit damage the max crit i have hit is 17k lol this can be recharged every 7 secs BTW the Volley will do close to 10k damage, but you can run and shot this! LOL

The kill shot build or the one shot build is mad fun in WWW trust me.
Watching a thief jumps you with a back stab and immediately stealth away to only be locked on by kill shot downing that thief in one hit down on the floor as they come out of stealth. there nothing more satisfying than that well maybe apart from one shoting a guardians though there Aegus or a warrior with a shields XD " signet of might see to that" you can’t black ageist the kill shot with this skill activated.

Just grab some mate running the same build add the right traits and utility skills and you have a laugh a minute build that cant hesitate to put a smile on your face every time you use the kill shot.

Flissy.4093:

This is definitely the best way to use a rifle.

Thinly veiled brag post.

Back on topic: I posted this on another thread but;
1. Pure zerker, with axe/shield, rifle. 30/0/0/10/30 or 0/30/0/10/30

2. 0/10/30/0/30 or 0/20/20/0/30: rifle-m/s for the lols. Basically mace stun, volley, rifle butt or kick. Then 2 and start kiting till the mace stun up again. Unsuspecting foe will give you perma crits doing around a 9-12k volley and 9k+ killshot. No need for pure zerker, stack the power!

I am using 30/0/0/10/30 with Axe/Mace main, Rifle secondary. I am doing PvE most of the time, sometimes WvW. My reason to bring the rifle in a dungeon/random boss/WvW/

- longer base range than a longbow (Yes, I am aware of the trait that adds on this, I dont care about sacrificing my DPS)
- relatively fast adrenaline stacking making the F1 fast, reliable, useful
- the rifle applies vulnerability, can smash subject alphas CoE/ spiders TA up a wall

I am just a random guy, but this works for me.

Considering Adrenaline gains as well, Rifle autoattack needs to fire ~.25s faster (maybe more) in order to compete with Longbow.

Having an arcing shot actually adds ~200 range to the Longbow as well so the base 1000 actually is closer to 1100-1200 (and even longer if you add the LB trait).

Rifle was great…pre-Quickness/pre-life steal crit food nerfs. Nothing wrong with it in solo-PvE/WvW kiting situations though and that’s where it lives and does OK because of the short cooldown on Aimed Shot and distance creator from Rifle Butt.

Since I respected so that I can’t easily get stronger bowstrings I have used a rifle on Jormag (the 1200 range lets me hit him without getting hit with the uncleanseable DOT.)

Is there a better way to hit him from range?

I’ve played both Rifle and Longbow warrior for various month in WvW. Rifle volley and killshot both do great damage. But both are extremely easy to avoid. So at the end every halfway decent player will dodge/evade/block every killshot and most volley hits. All other rifle skills do pitiful damage.

Longbow instead is much harder to avoid. LB1 does more damage than Rifle1 + its double adrenaline gain. LB2 does really nice damage on low range when you manage to hit your target with all 3 projectiles. LB3 does huge burst AOE damage and is easier to land than volley or killshot.

IMO the range difference between Longbow and Rifle is negligible. LB is lower range but much less prone to obstacles.

I don’t play pvp and I stick with the Zerg in WvW so keep that in mind.

I’ve used rifle since I started a year ago and still do with sword and shield as backup. Although its not quite as awesome as it once was, it’s still quite capable of melting an HP pool in a very short amount of time from a good distance, and the cripple (immobilise if traited) linked with F1 have a real surprise for some who have no idea who is shooting them (Zerg remember).

Yep killshot in zerg warfare is awesome. But so is Longbow with Arcing Arrow and the burst. And shooting in and out a keep is much easier with a Longbow.

Buzzcrave.6197:

Axe/Shield(5% dmg on all).

That doesn’t even stack…

AzzaCin.3691:

Yes I know LB is awesome with many builds. Has burning, bleeds, aoe, blindness, and immobolize. But everyone uses it and I’m tired of it as well.
I do love the rifle, love the sound of the empty shells hitting the ground but it doesn’t seem to see much use. Is there ever going to be a buff/rework for this weapon? Do any of you use it differently than others that really makes a difference? I would really like to use the rifle more on my warrior. Have 2 armor sets so far, condi/prec for dual sword build and a tanky armor set. Traits I change very often to glass cannon, shouts, shield/physical and others. But would like to know how those of you building for Rifle have made it work?

rifle is great with a gs and fantastic for pve.

skill 4 + on my mark gives decent lasting 18 vuln
skill 2 adds a cripple
love skill 3 volley for dps (watch for projectile reflection)

dual swrods rilfe.

personally if you want this route use leg specialist for the imbolie do as many auto attacks as you can when they get up to you use rifle but (skill 5) when you reach the point their on top of you you can switch to your dual swords. the rilfe with allow you to prolong the battle and stack more long lasting bleeds. doing more damage to your opponent ofc if he also has a range weapon expect it to be a lot more complicated that what i’m making it out ot be.

(rilfe but can add confusion if it interrupts a foe if traited and it’s cd is one of the shortest in skills warrior have that have that ability 15 seconds)

rilfe but easily replaces kick and skill 2 with leg spec can be annoying also they removed the cd so 6 sec =1 sec of imbolile)

because of a specific rumor i’ll go over the rilfe in detail
skill 4 adds 8 stacks of vuln with a cast time of .5 seconds use with on my mark 18% bonus damage for a long time.

skill 2 keeps mods or player slow and if traited down right immbolies them (plus cripple)

skill 3 massive dps short cd 10 seconds vs 8 second 100 blades (6 if tratied) volley fires 5 shots each one with a 20% combo rate meaning you will likely get 1 possibly get more combos i.e. more burn more blind dpends on the field.

4 lots of vunl already covered.

5 short cool down knock back able to put 4 stacks of confusion (more if you use sigil of perplexity 9) if you interrupt a foe. (I would only recommend considering perplexity if your intending to be a condition build) although they are other great runes you could consider.

now the 1st argument is lower dps then a gs.

heres the thing rilfe has 1200 range gs is melee 100 blades does great damage but it’s raw damage fails compared ot volley kill shot (your 2 dps skills in pve) kill shot is harder to hit on a player though but if you catch him not paying attention feel free to pop him one.

with vanilla stats——————————————-
100 blades 8 sec cd around 2k damage over 3k second time period at melee range
kill shot MINIMAL 869 max 1200) at 1200 range with a around a 2 sec cast time

volley on the other hand deals 1160 at range both skills can pierce if traited around 2 seconds cast time. (10 second cd) oh and kill shot will follow someone if you cast it (if they move when your char is aiming he will simply aim it at them infinitely more accurate then 100 blades who if a mod or person moves yo uhave ot abort casting since it own’t deal damage and your a sitting duck

only real special thing deserve mention is that forceful greatsword will grant bonus might on crit with gs which will tip dps in favor of the gs but even with that in mind. it’s a lot easier ot land volley and kill shot on a mod then a person same for kill shot (there is a reason people are running mace shield + gs) (for the inevitable comment rerfering to cast times crack shot and forceful great sword reduce them by the same percent)

longer you survive more damage you will do simply put what a better way to surive then staying out of a mod or persons attack range. that is the rifle in a nut shell. try it out and decide if you like it or not for yourself though.

rifle is far from a scrubs weapon despite poplular opinion and frankly i’m not going to stop using it because a few elitest refuse to admit that their is other good weapon besides the gs.

Rifle is good even without a single trait in it, thus if youre 99% using a greatsword, then you’re in a pug that can’t support your zerking on a boss. A rifle secondary is great as it can do the damage without you investing a whole ton of traits into it.

If you’re a condition warrior it’s a different story. But again, if you’re just built for damage, the rifle makes a solid secondary choice for PvE. I can put a lot more damage into a boss for a lot less sacrifice on traits.

Rifle is terrible in PvE, doing the dumb comparison of HB to … whatever the rifle burst is I was getting like 26-30k in an awful PUG versus like… 12k off rifle.

Longbow is better than rifle for direct damage in dungeons. End of story.

colesy.8490:

Rifle is terrible in PvE, doing the dumb comparison of HB to … whatever the rifle burst is I was getting like 26-30k in an awful PUG versus like… 12k off rifle.

nothing i said in that comparison was a lie or wrong the rifles skills does more damage vanilla. i made it crystal clear that i was comparing both skills from a vanilla point of view or to put it simply no might from forceful greatsword no buffs at all. which a rifle does exceede the gs.

there is a reason i said
to stay out of range of you enemy’s attacks while deals high damage that is the rifle in a nutshell.

i never said that the gs was a bad weapon i never said 100b is a bad skill nor did i imply it. i did and will continue to say the rife is a very under rated weapon for what reason among some people.