Guild Wars 2

My main is a 80 warrior and I really want hundred blades nerfed for the overall health of our class, im tired of seeing 95% of the warriors with the same weapon its boring and its bad, also Thousand blade with good weapon + the haste buff = Dead in less than 1 second which is not fun.

I really wanna see alot more diversity on warrior weapon choice, the Greatsword weapon skill set is overall too good for its own good.

1) the skill is called hundred blades. would have hoped over your 80 levels as a warrior you would at least know the name of the skill you want to nerf

2) i’d like to see what moves you are doing which is killing someone in 1 second. because that means you are killing something in 2 seconds without quickness. please tell me what is your combo that does 20k damage in 2 second so i can start using it as well

3) what experience are you basing this on? do you have any tourney wins or did you just get owned in 8v8 and decided to come here crying for nerf

1/ wops, got me with the name always joked about calling it a thousand blades and thats it

2/ Basicly bullrush/bolas quickness with thousand blades+whirlwind thats 20k dmg in no time or more dependign crits/gear

3/ I dont really do sPvP this was done to me several times in WvW tho and yes it was 1v1

4/ Arent you tired of seeing EVERY warrior aroudn with a 2hander, be the better man and think for the health of the cklass nnot your own inflated Ego when you see those huge big thousand blades numbers

It was already nerfed, no way is it hitting 100 times.

Zin.6170:

It was already nerfed, no way is it hitting 100 times.

This answer is kinda silly?

While it is an awesome move for PVE, I still use all the other moves on the greatsword, and my alt weapon is a rifle. We’re warriors, we should have at least 1 crazy awesome dps move!

I’ve heard it is crap for PVP and WvWvW, so if you play those, I’m sure you’ll see other builds. The guild wars 2 build website has a ton other builds.

i want to see a video with 20k dmg with hb and ww in the current game build and the victim is not a glass cannon. in case it is, then its his own fault.
there are many ways to avoid this dmg, like condition removal, stun breaker, invulnerable, stability, teleport, dodge…
yes it is a little bit annoying that nearly every warrior uses greatsword (so am i), but this is not just the case for warriors, guardians too. people just love the greatsword (the look and the feeling) so they shall use it.

Yes – please adjust Hundred Blades damage down and remove the immobilize/root animation and add a cripple/chill effect. That way warriors do not need to use a hard CC in order for all the blows to land.

Or we could just leave it as is.

Hundred-million blades does not need nerfed. The problem is that it is the only viable dmg dealing skill. This is why everyone uses it. The rest of warrior wep sets need buffs.
If there were other viable skill sets people would use them. Either warrior needs a defensive buff so they can stay in combat long enough for other weaker skills to be viable OR the other weps, mace/1h sword/shield need to be buffed so they can do dmg before warriors get face smashed.

If 2h sword gets nerfed you will see a lot of people stop playing warrior.

Oh as a side note. 2h sword is basically nerfed already because you have to use secondary skill specs just to make it viable. The fact that you cant move while using Thousand-million-hundred blade is already nerfed enough.

Alot of other channel melee sets cant move and they still dotn do the devastating dmg, the problem is not handred blades by itself but mixed with the haste skill or the sigil of rage, then it becomes stupid cause you do the whole animation in less than 1 second same for whirlwind.

I think its the best for us all to get handred blades out of the way sow e can see more diversity and buffs for the other weapons instead of poeple just whining about “nerf warriors” without knowing anything, so we better take the nerf where we know we need to take it.

If one handred blades wasnt voerpowered you wouldnt see 95% of the wa rpopulation using greatsword

So instead of buffing other warrior abilities you think ArenaNet should just nerf and destroy a whole class? GTFO!

Encadi.1672:

Zin.6170:

It was already nerfed, no way is it hitting 100 times.

This answer is kinda silly?

His answer is kind of awesome.

Problem is not 100B, problem is 100B with Quickness on.

Same for HS, PW, and any other no cd big shot moves.

Nerf/Remove quickness and 100B isn’t that great.

Okay, I’m going to break it down:

1) Many warriors don’t use a greatsword JUST for hundred blades. Most weapons have skills that will hit for much more on a certain skill.

2) Given that wielding a big long two-handed sword is cool as all hell, expect to see it as the main weapon

3) I am assuming you’re talking about PvE. Everyone knows a GOOD warrior, will swap between different weapon SETS (i.e. go into their actual inventory) if the situation calls for it. For example, upon doing Catacombs runs to get my Ghostly Greatsword, I had a hammer.

Why? Because of the knockback that renders breeders and howlers totally useless.

Need to kite? Longbow.

Need to gain distance and get back quickly? Use a sword. I also see people using an axe as their offhand, simply because it is great for AoE.

The thing isn’t even that great, despite it’s name. I struggle to get more than 5 – 6.5k without criting with my 100b. You see, using 100b leaves you COMPLETELY open to damage. You get routed. Most times, unless someone else is taking aggro, you can’t afford that.

Fight a champion on your own and tell me how good 100b is.

Go to structured PvP and tell me how good it is, when you get an ele dragon toothing your face in. First thing I would do if I saw a warrior and knew he used 100b + stun, (because I would after seeing it the first time) is drop a high damage AoE DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF ME. upon seeing him.

100b is fine.

Mexay.4521:

Okay, I’m going to break it down:

1) Many warriors don’t use a greatsword JUST for hundred blades. Most weapons have skills that will hit for much more on a certain skill.

2) Given that wielding a big long two-handed sword is cool as all hell, expect to see it as the main weapon

3) I am assuming you’re talking about PvE. Everyone knows a GOOD warrior, will swap between different weapon SETS (i.e. go into their actual inventory) if the situation calls for it. For example, upon doing Catacombs runs to get my Ghostly Greatsword, I had a hammer.

Why? Because of the knockback that renders breeders and howlers totally useless.

Need to kite? Longbow.

Need to gain distance and get back quickly? Use a sword. I also see people using an axe as their offhand, simply because it is great for AoE.

The thing isn’t even that great, despite it’s name. I struggle to get more than 5 – 6.5k without criting with my 100b. You see, using 100b leaves you COMPLETELY open to damage. You get routed. Most times, unless someone else is taking aggro, you can’t afford that.

Fight a champion on your own and tell me how good 100b is.

Go to structured PvP and tell me how good it is, when you get an ele dragon toothing your face in. First thing I would do if I saw a warrior and knew he used 100b + stun, (because I would after seeing it the first time) is drop a high damage AoE DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF ME. upon seeing him.

100b is fine.

People get hit with dragon tooths….seriously..?

Why should it need a nerf?

In PvE the Greatsword is a valid multitarget damage weapon. So what if many warriors use it, why is that necessarily bad? Many warriors also use dual axe, does that make dual axe builds bad?
The damage dealt with HB is perfectly OK in PvE, plus the skill has the added downside that you’ll have to stay still for a few seconds for the whole sequence to hit.

The same really applies for WvW. WvW isn’t fair PvP in any way, it’s basically like PvE with other players, from a combat perspective.

As for sPvP … if the other player is stupid enough to stand there and let all of the HB hits get him, it’s his own fault. Knockdowns and immobilize are no excuse, there are ways around those (like dodging or using condition removers – anyone who plays sPvP without a way to get rid of conditions deserves everything he gets). I mean … the warrior has to literally stand there for 5 seconds if he wants HB to fully hit! That’s an eternity!
HB greatsword/axe crit builds in sPvP are mostly played by inexperienced players anyway, there are better builds out there. It’s a good build against glass cannons and noobs, but that’s about it.

So no, I do not think HB needs to be nerfed in any way. It’s a nice skill, yes. So is whirlwind, but nobody’s crying about nerfing whirlwind.
As for the “so many warriors use greatswords” argument … so what? The game isn’t even out for a month, let the whole thing balance out a bit, how about it? I’d wager that at the moment, there is not one player who fully understands all the possibilities and capabilities of his chosen class to its full extent. There is not one player that really has perfected playing his class yet. So I think calling for nerfs is just a little premature.

Well it is pretty obvious that no one thinks the same way that you do. Or at least a majority don’t.

If you want less warriors using 2hsword then you can choose to not use it.
They need to buff the other skill sets honestly.

Sad people really want to keep their overpowered skill combo for the sake of it, really sad. Since we cant be the better man I hope developers do it for us and save us from simplicity. Ie xplaiend several tiems whats wrong with the combo yet people avoid and dont give any reason around it, so please developers nerf the :

Quickness + Hundred Blades + Whirlwind in 1 second please

When people think the whole class revolves around hundred blades and think the whole class gets nerfed it that skill is nerfed we HAVE A PROBLEM.

Dreadspectre.3456:

Problem is not 100B, problem is 100B with Quickness on.

Same for HS, PW, and any other no cd big shot moves.

Nerf/Remove quickness and 100B isn’t that great.

Here’s a few answers that I think would teach many people about the HB situation and how to get over themselves:

• Frenzy only lasts for 4 seconds every 60…avoiding the warrior for 4 seconds isn’t hard
• Frenzied warriors take 50% extra damage…CC and kill them
• Only players who don’t pay attention get rolled by Hundred Blades
• Have skills/abilities to negate CC
• Warriors relying on CC+HB+WW are usually weak as hell
• Cry less over being a weak high-damage build

Pick your poison.
Frenzy was already nerfed. Its possibly the worst way of getting quickness in the game. Deal with it.

Redscope.6215:

Dreadspectre.3456:

Problem is not 100B, problem is 100B with Quickness on.

Same for HS, PW, and any other no cd big shot moves.

Nerf/Remove quickness and 100B isn’t that great.

Here’s a few answers that I think would teach many people about the HB situation and how to get over themselves:

• Frenzy only lasts for 4 seconds every 60…avoiding the warrior for 4 seconds isn’t hard
• Frenzied warriors take 50% extra damage…CC and kill them
• Only players who don’t pay attention get rolled by Hundred Blades
• Have skills/abilities to negate CC
• Warriors relying on CC+HB+WW are usually weak as hell
• Cry less over being a weak high-damage build

Pick your poison.
Frenzy was already nerfed. Its possibly the worst way of getting quickness in the game. Deal with it.

Why are you posting like a pompouskitten I play a Hammer/GS warrior with 27k HP, 2k Toughness and 3200 Atk. I run Stability in every build. I don’t care about 1v1’s. The problem is when it’s a coordinated team burst. Quickness makes reaction time incredibly small and 60 seconds isn’t that big of a deal. Hell I can almost get an entire HB’s off just in the span of a Hammer stun and I don’t use quickness at all.

You also act like a GS glass cannon Warrior isn’t going to pop stability while they do their combo either so they can’t be interrupted.

Dreadspectre.3456:

Redscope.6215:

Dreadspectre.3456:

Problem is not 100B, problem is 100B with Quickness on.

Same for HS, PW, and any other no cd big shot moves.

Nerf/Remove quickness and 100B isn’t that great.

Here’s a few answers that I think would teach many people about the HB situation and how to get over themselves:

• Frenzy only lasts for 4 seconds every 60…avoiding the warrior for 4 seconds isn’t hard
• Frenzied warriors take 50% extra damage…CC and kill them
• Only players who don’t pay attention get rolled by Hundred Blades
• Have skills/abilities to negate CC
• Warriors relying on CC+HB+WW are usually weak as hell
• Cry less over being a weak high-damage build

Pick your poison.
Frenzy was already nerfed. Its possibly the worst way of getting quickness in the game. Deal with it.

Why are you posting like a pompouskitten I play a Hammer/GS warrior with 27k HP, 2k Toughness and 3200 Atk. I run Stability in every build. I don’t care about 1v1’s. The problem is when it’s a coordinated team burst. Quickness makes reaction time incredibly small and 60 seconds isn’t that big of a deal. Hell I can almost get an entire HB’s off just in the span of a Hammer stun and I don’t use quickness at all.

You also act like a GS glass cannon Warrior isn’t going to pop stability while they do their combo either so they can’t be interrupted.

You don’t react to quickness, you react to either some big dufus running at you or being immobilized. If you’re not CC’d, HB sucks man.

If you don’t run on Tarnished Coast, I’ll build a HB spec’d war and find you…I’m pretty sure you’ll ignore my faceroll killshot simply by clearing immobilize. Its not a hard counter. From the list I’ve provided, your poison would probably be bullet point number 3…pay more attention.

Also, coordinated team burst? … Okay your problem has just shifted from “Nerf Hundred Blades” to “Nerf Teams with Warriors that are using Hundred Blades” … big difference. Kinda like asking for a nerf to teamwork. I don’t see that happening anytime soon.

I’m not being pompus. I’m being ‘wtfumadbro?’ tired of people crying about a skill that has been this way since the beginning of sPvP testing and has been nerfed time and again but they still manage to cry about it.

I kinda figured you were on the same page as me w/ the whining…obviously I wasn’t reading that vibe into your post lol.

I haven’t cried at all about the skill, nor did I say I die to it. I don’t. I beat 100B warriors back when i was using Dual Swords condition build. You’re assuming. I believe we know what happens when you assume.

I was pointing out Quickness as being the reason people think 100B’s is so baller when really it’s just decent.

Dreadspectre.3456:

I haven’t cried at all about the skill, nor did I say I die to it. I don’t. I beat 100B warriors back when i was using Dual Swords condition build. You’re assuming. I believe we know what happens when you assume.

I was pointing out Quickness as being the reason people think 100B’s is so baller when really it’s just decent.

Yeah there’s a u in assume too j/k … Anyway:

I agree quickness buff is very, VERY powerful. That’s why everyone gets a big negative for having 4 seconds of it on-call with a minute cooldown. Back in BWE1 Frenzy actually increased crit damage and gave 6 seconds of quickness. So quickness already got nerfed. Outside of removing it altogether, I’m not sure what else they can do to it.

FYI hundred blades has a 3.6 second cast time (from start to the “big hit”) so anyone claiming they executed a 1 second hundred blades is trying to dupe you.

Hundred blades only does about 20-30% more DPS than axe auto attack, at the cost of rooting you. It pretty much has to do this much damage to not be a useless attack. Over time, axe auto attack outdamages a greatsword warrior’s total DPS. You need to combo 100b with longer cooldown abilities to be able to even land a fraction of the damage.

If enemies are dying in one hit, they should probably spec more stun breaks and defensive skills.

The whole reason Hundred Blades needs a nerf its the combination with quickness and whirlwind making it impossible tor eact fast enough, i think this needs to go to notg et the whole warrior class nerfed for the wrong things

Vehementi.1094:

FYI hundred blades has a 3.6 second cast time (from start to the “big hit”) so anyone claiming they executed a 1 second hundred blades is trying to dupe you.

Hundred blades only does about 20-30% more DPS than axe auto attack, at the cost of rooting you. It pretty much has to do this much damage to not be a useless attack. Over time, axe auto attack outdamages a greatsword warrior’s total DPS. You need to combo 100b with longer cooldown abilities to be able to even land a fraction of the damage.

If enemies are dying in one hit, they should probably spec more stun breaks and defensive skills.

You sir need tor ead the WHOLE thread before blabling nonsence

As others have said Hundred Blades is fine the way it is. You have to build a very gimmicky build for it to be viable in any form of PvP and even then its very easily countered. PvE is pointless to make an argument about because… its PvE. I am of the same mind that the other weapon sets need a buff or another look at how they work.

Greatswords have literally one burst ability and that is essentially all it is good for in terms of DPS. Yes you arguably have the best mobility out of any of the weapon sets, but you have one and only one massive dps ability (that roots you). With that being said, Greatswords and more specifically HB does not need a nerf.

The OP is fresh from WoW and doesn’t realize how many of us have read 1.2e07 threads like “I’m a 70 Warlock and SL/SL needs to be nerfed for the overall health of the game.”

This doesn’t even speak to those of us who actually play said class and understand the drawbacks of the <insert overpowered skill here>.

OP is almost surely an Elementalist who can’t save his endurance.

Encadi.1672:

The whole reason Hundred Blades needs a nerf its the combination with quickness and whirlwind making it impossible tor eact fast enough, i think this needs to go to notg et the whole warrior class nerfed for the wrong things

“Nerf AP/POM/Pyro because it’s impossible for the flag carrier to react….”.

The ability is fine, its its usage combined with Frenzy which is the problem. Frenzy combined with a knockdown lets the entire move hit and with crits it will do up to 30k damage, thats more than enough to kill a player. And its AOE damage as well.

Its not the damage output which worries me, its the skill and its not only Warriors. Every class has some extremely easy way of outputting tons of damage, and the result is a zergfest. Taking down equal players in 3 seconds should never happen in an MMO.

I am a dual wield sword warrior and I am tired of seeing eveyrone with greaswords, and im tired eveyrone wanting to nerf the warrior class for a stupid skill combo so yeah, i think its best for us all if they nerf the combo of HB and Quickness and buff the rest of the weapon sets, wish people could read.

Encadi.1672:

Vehementi.1094:

FYI hundred blades has a 3.6 second cast time (from start to the “big hit”) so anyone claiming they executed a 1 second hundred blades is trying to dupe you.

Hundred blades only does about 20-30% more DPS than axe auto attack, at the cost of rooting you. It pretty much has to do this much damage to not be a useless attack. Over time, axe auto attack outdamages a greatsword warrior’s total DPS. You need to combo 100b with longer cooldown abilities to be able to even land a fraction of the damage.

If enemies are dying in one hit, they should probably spec more stun breaks and defensive skills.

You sir need tor ead the WHOLE thread before blabling nonsence

And you need to reread your initial post before accusing someone ELSE of blabing nonsense. As a matter of fact YOU need to read the post. People have given plenty of reasons on why you are full of it and you are simply chosing to ignore it. I’m running a glass cannon build and greatsword really isnt that great. Sure its numbers look awesome but if you do any type of testing what so ever you will realise its average at best for busrt damage, which is what you are tyring to accomplish. Not to mention you are useing up 3-4 skills to pull it off and have 0 utility left over. That would be ok for a ranged class but in melee?

Posts like this just show some people shouldnt open thier mouth. If 100b was so OP, in combination with any skill, you would see it all the time in sPvP. Which btw, you do not. In WvW you MIGHT get 1 kill before you get yourkitten smacked into oblivion. And if you do not get that one kill you are dead anyway. In another words you are completely useless.

yes plz nerf our our only viable spec so i can go back to the pandas.

Best.1628:

yes plz nerf our our only viable spec so i can go back to the pandas.

^lol this

Honestly people just need to learn how to double tap how of the extremely obvious 100B animation.

As a GS warrior I have yet to die to any other GS HB warrior because I know the weakness in the build and how to counter it. Almost all of them will bola you to immbolize you and then try to burst you down with HB. This is really easy to avoid if you trait a stun break when facing warriors. If they don’t immoblize you just dodge backwards because they can’t move and use it. A lot of warriors will open with hb so its pretty predictable. That goes for most warriors in general. As a group they are really easy to predict in battle.

Hundred Blades is fine..
8s cd, or 6.5 with traits. It’s a frontal attack that roots the warrior in place while he casts it. You can easily roll behind him and avoid all the dmg…

Funny, on my warrior I won’t use a 2H weapon. Or should say, more to the point, I just don’t. I use a sword in the MH, and an Axe in the OH…I like the way it playes…

HB isn’t the problem, it’s the combination of that and Bull Rush/Bola + Haste. As far as I’m concerned, quickness is just ridiculously OP on any class, it does far too much for too little downside.

Recognize the problem at its roots. HB on its own is really not very impressive at all.

Without this skill damage great sword is pretty much useless compared to dual wielding. I disagree on everyone using the same build. I see many warriors use great sword yes, pve wise is good, pvp wise is too easy to own if you know how to counter. Like everything else in this discussion forum, people need to learn to play. If you keep asking for everything to be nerfed then you will ask for it to be buffed or nerfed more leading to WoW’s circle of doom. Q_Q this is op > Nerf > Q_Q now that is op > nerf > now that is op again. So on.

Great sword warrior are easy to build yes. But they are as good as any other warrior. dual wielder if played correctly can do way more damage way easier and with less chances of being countered. Or did you forgot that this skill doesn’t do all it’s damage in one strike and if you dodge you just left the warrior doing a useless animation while youkittenhim?

The GS is one of the worst weapons the warrior has.

How are people still complaining about this? Friggin trolls…

Instead, can we discuss how to make the warrior actually useful in PvP? Thanks

I refuse to use quickness with HB because it just feels a little to unfair to be able to get all that damage out that fast. I wish in general fights were longer and more back and forth than bursting down your opponent

RaptorSpectre.3271:

I refuse to use quickness with HB because it just feels a little to unfair to be able to get all that damage out that fast. I wish in general fights were longer and more back and forth than bursting down your opponent

If they’re getting hit with that gimmick, then they deserve to be destroyed.

Don’t feel bad.

LOCO.1785:

The GS is one of the worst weapons the warrior has.

How are people still complaining about this? Friggin trolls…

Instead, can we discuss how to make the warrior actually useful in PvP? Thanks

The answer is simple. Learn to play your warrior.

Such insight!

You should write a blog.

LOCO.1785:

RaptorSpectre.3271:

I refuse to use quickness with HB because it just feels a little to unfair to be able to get all that damage out that fast. I wish in general fights were longer and more back and forth than bursting down your opponent

If they’re getting hit with that gimmick, then they deserve to be destroyed.

Don’t feel bad.

I still don’t like it. I don’t like fights being so quick. The longer and more protracted the better. I’d sword shield, but I just aesthetically love greatswords and claymores, so gs it is for me. In pvp especially WvW I run with longbow out and use it as the opener and to whittle their health down. HB is my finisher move of sorts. My standard attack process is to drop the fire field, pin them, arching shot, switch to greatsword, cripple, whirlwind, and HB to finish them off. At that point HB usually only has to hit half its attack to score a kill. Its worked pretty well be most people are expecting the bola/HB attack and usually don’t break out of the imoblize quickly because I’m just potshoting with the longbow. Till I charge and carve them up.

I suggest you keep on using this tactic. It’s the only way people will learn to adapt and counter it.

I bet when you run into someone that knows how to use dodge and break immobilise the fight lasts a lot longer.

iam having trouble with it since I cant move while using it.

It’s simple. We kill The Batman.

LOCO.1785:

I suggest you keep on using this tactic. It’s the only way people will learn to adapt and counter it.

I bet when you run into someone that knows how to use dodge and break immobilise the fight lasts a lot longer.

Oh yeah I realized in beta that people would catch onto the bola trick instantly. They haven’t seemed to catch onto using the longbow as the opener because it seems to be undervalued in spvp. Plus treating hb as a finisher move means your attack pattern isn’t based entirely on one skill.