Guild Wars 2

I play ranger in spvp/tpvp and i feel so sorry 4 you guys now, it wherent like you where at a good place to begin with.
Rangers where kind of hit too, but only a little bit.
All i can say that they will fix you, they HAVE to.

btw only played warrior in hotjoin a little bit , but played alot against you.

HEY BOARD MODS, HI, when warrior section get random sympathy posts, that says somethin… and that’s speaking lightly.

Lowest on tier = NERF THEM.
Right ok.

I wonder how long it will be this time? A month? Two? What are they gonna change next time? I can just see it: “Reduced the damage of Hundred Blades by 30%. Berserker Stance duration increased to 10s. Stomp Cooldown reduced to 55s.” Seems to be the direction we’re going!

Patch April 26th,

Warrior:
Add .5 sec to Frenzy
Revert Kick Lunge back to Kick
Banners now do 49.7 damage to 250 aoe when it expires
Add extra S to Ssigil for maximum… insignificance.
Warriors now passively run 25% faster while wielding a melee weapon
Warrior runspeed reduced 25% while attacking.

Dev: Because warriors are SUCH a powerhouse (pvp), we gotta be careful, cause they can be OP with slightest wrong tweaks based on or scientifically tested calculations and that is why we must make unimportant changes to equally unimportant aspects of the class because that is …now shut yo mouth Taevion and let us do our job!

I will agree with the OP’s sentiment… listening to the thief cry about 1+ sec to revealed.. then reading the warrior patch notes.. really puts things into perspective..

I think people are taking this change over the top. Warriors are more than just frenzy warriors. There are so many more builds out there. Yes I know they suck at spvp but they dominate pve and cc warriors are incredible in wvw. With the banner change, banner regen warriors might even prove to be quite effective.

I honestly love the fact they nerfed quickness as I 100% agree with what they said about it. And frankly I hope this will encourage more diversity in warrior builds instead of just seeing frenzy 100b / volley warriors.

iNaddict.8021:

I will agree with the OP’s sentiment… listening to the thief cry about 1+ sec to revealed.. then reading the warrior patch notes.. really puts things into perspective..

the +1 second reveal is actually a hit to PvE and it is major so don’t take the whines as whines the concern is legit. Quickness nerf was cross class so thieves go hit with it too. That being said warrior has no bunker, condition removal is kittening abysmal, and the class is too predictable. Quickness nerf is a slap on the wrist not looking at the other stuff is spit in the face.

TheGuy.3568:

iNaddict.8021:

I will agree with the OP’s sentiment… listening to the thief cry about 1+ sec to revealed.. then reading the warrior patch notes.. really puts things into perspective..

the +1 second reveal is actually a hit to PvE and it is major so don’t take the whines as whines the concern is legit. Quickness nerf was cross class so thieves go hit with it too. That being said warrior has no bunker, condition removal is kittening abysmal, and the class is too predictable. Quickness nerf is a slap on the wrist not looking at the other stuff is spit in the face.

I never said it wasnt a hit.. but people in the thief forums are crying about it like it is the end of the world.. and concern or not.. if you compare it to what the warrior got… there is your perspective..

i main a thief..

iNaddict.8021:

TheGuy.3568:

iNaddict.8021:

I will agree with the OP’s sentiment… listening to the thief cry about 1+ sec to revealed.. then reading the warrior patch notes.. really puts things into perspective..

the +1 second reveal is actually a hit to PvE and it is major so don’t take the whines as whines the concern is legit. Quickness nerf was cross class so thieves go hit with it too. That being said warrior has no bunker, condition removal is kittening abysmal, and the class is too predictable. Quickness nerf is a slap on the wrist not looking at the other stuff is spit in the face.

I never said it wasnt a hit.. but people in the thief forums are crying about it like it is the end of the world.. and concern or not.. if you compare it to what the warrior got… there is your perspective..

i main a thief..

And I get what your saying but PvE thieves have a legit gripe. Might as well take it as the end because the gap that was already there just got wider. In PvP who cares it makes sense to a degree but the PvE nerf was simply to kittening far.

As far as PvP goes we lost quickness and so did everyone else. We were UP before and were UP now what else is new?

As far as PvE goes now we have a good reason to carry that 5th warrior over a mesmer to CoE path 1. I call that progress smdh.

Dev 1: Man that patch we put out sure makes necros hard to kill
Dev 2: Hmm… im still gonna nerf warriors
Dev 1: How about those passive buffs we gave bunkers by reducing quickness?
Dev 2: Still gonna nerf warrors… a warrior kicked my mom once

Anzu.5702:

I think people are taking this change over the top. Warriors are more than just frenzy warriors. There are so many more builds out there. Yes I know they suck at spvp but they dominate pve and cc warriors are incredible in wvw. With the banner change, banner regen warriors might even prove to be quite effective.

I honestly love the fact they nerfed quickness as I 100% agree with what they said about it. And frankly I hope this will encourage more diversity in warrior builds instead of just seeing frenzy 100b / volley warriors.

When you’re looking at the changes from outside tPvP yeah it might seem as though people are taking the changes a bit over the top, but try playing tourneys as a warrior as something else other then the common 100B build….. you’re practically useless…..

Yeah in PvE and WvW warriors rip people/monsters appart, but that’s far from what people are upset about. The reason warriors are bottom tier in tPvP is cause we have ONE spec that lets us do something any other class can’t simply do better, and that’s the 100B frenzy burst, any other warrior build in sPvP is a worse version of something another class can do, and still is. Now with quickness nerf that ONE build that warriors could really be effective with in tourneys is totally pointless, I mean the burst was easy enough to avoid before they reduced it’s speed by 50%.

So I do agree that the quickness nerf was needed and I accept the devs reasoning as completely valid, but keeping that 50% increased damage taken for the entire duration makes frenzy a death sentence now without also wasting endure pain at the same time.

So yeah I would like to see new warrior builds, but until we get buffed those other builds will be subpar on every scale in tPvP, there is no longer any point to play warrior in tourneys.

P.S. Volley warriors are horrendous in tPvP, btw.

TheGuy.3568:

As far as PvP goes we lost quickness and so did everyone else. We were UP before and were UP now what else is new?

Are you seriously claiming thieves are underpowered in sPvP?…….. Seriously?

Vicarious.3047:

TheGuy.3568:

As far as PvP goes we lost quickness and so did everyone else. We were UP before and were UP now what else is new?

Are you seriously claiming thieves are underpowered in sPvP?…….. Seriously?

We as in warrior as WE are in the warrior forums. Second my warrior is built for eating thieves (spiked armor etc) they are not under powered in spvp (like I said before) its just that thieves have to eat a PvE nerf and iNaddict shrugged it off. Imho unless you see the big picture instead of one classes narrow view your wrong to even mention another class.

Os when I see all these theatrics and overdone we have been broken over a nerf that everybody ate I just think WTf fellow warrior what about our bunker, conditions being nearly and “I win button” vs us and why are boons in spvp un touched?

“Take 50% more damage for the duration.” should be 25% and that’s about it.

UP before and were UP now what else is new?

Next time maybe you shouldnt talk about thieves then say “we” right afterwards without even mentioning warrior, cause in english the way you said it directly relates ot you talking about thieves, just saying.

But yes I do agree with you mostly, now that you’ve clarified your point.

Vicarious.3047:

Next time maybe you shouldnt talk about thieves then say “we” right afterwards without even mentioning warrior, cause in english the way you said it directly relates ot you talking about thieves, just saying.

But yes I do agree with you mostly, now that you’ve clarified your point.

Ok, however in the English language its best to read the entirety of a correspondence. Should I break is down?

“And I get what your saying but PvE thieves have a legit gripe. Might as well take it as the end because the gap that was already there just got wider. In PvP who cares it makes sense to a degree but the PvE nerf was simply to kittening far.”

Notice I never say that I was member of the aforementioned group. I was very careful not to do that.

“As far as PvP goes we lost quickness and so did everyone else. We were UP before and were UP now what else is new?”

Now we can be used to refer to you and another person, but it can be used to refer to yourself, and the person you are conversing with currently. Furthermore I separate the “paragraphs” to indicate that we are changing topic (basic grammar).

Now, note that I was responding directly to another post

“I never said it wasnt a hit.. but people in the thief forums are crying about it like it is the end of the world .. and concern or not.. if you compare it to what the warrior got … there is your perspective..”

Take the time to realize I was addressing 2 different topics directly. The first paragraph responds the underlined statement. The sentence following responds to the italicized statement. Also note that because I response to italicized statement with “we”. I identify myself as a warrior in the ongoing discussion.

If you had read the entire correspondence there would have been no confusion. In the future before you make bold comments; reference the full discussion that is or was ongoing before you comment on a post.

Thank you.

That’s a lot of typing just to try and convince I’m wrong of something that doesn’t matter at all lol

And all that may be true, but you still said “the thieves” and then “us” without referring to warriors at all. I know what you say is correct but assuming you had no fault at all in this MINOR misconception is haughty and presumptuous.

Your welcome.

I find frenzy warriors bad, but I only play WvW so I can’t judge I guess.

Pretty nice update for WvW warriors thou. I am happy =3

Vicarious.3047:

That’s a lot of typing just to try and convince I’m wrong of something that doesn’t matter at all lol

And all that may be true, but you still said “the thieves” and then “us” without referring to warriors at all. I know what you say is correct but assuming you had no fault at all in this MINOR misconception is haughty and presumptuous.

Your welcome.

I figured because you had difficulty understanding the previous post you might need some help. It seems i made a grievous error as using so many words has created a situation where you could not read them all. If you had there would not have been a follow up post on your part so it seems I have failed.That being said it might be petty in your opinion but, I wasn’t the one who decided to go off topic. I also feel that there are few who lack the cognitive capability to understand the English language. So, when situations arise where some have difficulty understanding we must help them. If these insolent fools choose not to learn we have no choice but to give up, and clearly show them there errors in hopes that they will self educate.

Please realize that your first sentence and the following paragraph in your last post is clear case of hypocrisy. Please remember I did not bring it up. You did in your first post. I never used the word “us”. Please remember I wasn’t talking to you in the first place. You saw fit to interject yourself into a conversation and take what was said out of context.

“assuming you had no fault at all in this MINOR misconception is haughty and presumptuous.”

I do apologize. I made the gross assumption that everyone on a forum could read. I will reflect upon my error and in the future include pictures and other forms of communication more universally accepted. I hope in future this will allow others like you to understand my messages.

I am ending this

peacefully.

Good Day to you Sir.

I resign from this conversation.

A little help for your future posting endeavors

TheGuy.3568:

I figured because you had difficulty understanding the previous post you might need some help. It seems i made a grievous error…..

I stopped reading there, you type too much lol

Fooled around with 6 classes in spvp for a while now (rank 32), warriors were the worst and now it’s even worse. I now main pve warrior, spvp thief.

On the other hand, i saw a spvp warrior with banners, kick, and rampage equipped. He got 1st place multiple times. Lol.

On the other hand, i saw a spvp warrior with banners, kick, and rampage equipped. He got 1st place multiple times. Lol.

Was it Jon Peters?

Raptured.9307:

On the other hand, i saw a spvp warrior with banners, kick, and rampage equipped. He got 1st place multiple times. Lol.

I saw a warrior like that last night as well, after he got first a couple times (cause he just tags everyone in the massive zerg fest of scrubs, so when they die he gets points), so I decided to do a small experiment….. I targeted him in every fight no matter who else was there so everyone would instinctively attack him first.

He died so often he got near to last a couple times in a row before quitting.

Basically when rampage was up he couldnt heal so we just burned him down in seconds, we just dodged kick or took it cause either way it didn’t make much difference, and his banners didn’t help him stay alive in the slightest lol

Vicarious.3047:

Raptured.9307:

On the other hand, i saw a spvp warrior with banners, kick, and rampage equipped. He got 1st place multiple times. Lol.

I saw a warrior like that last night as well, after he got first a couple times (cause he just tags everyone in the massive zerg fest of scrubs, so when they die he gets points), so I decided to do a small experiment….. I targeted him in every fight no matter who else was there so everyone would instinctively attack him first.

He died so often he got near to last a couple times in a row before quitting.

Basically when rampage was up he couldnt heal so we just burned him down in seconds, we just dodged kick or took it cause either way it didn’t make much difference, and his banners didn’t help him stay alive in the slightest lol

So the moral of that story is if you zerg 1 player they will die? Yes, that truly proves the viability of his build (sarcasm). Builds you use in the zergfest we call hot join don’t really matter. Go to tourney or 5v5 and it will give you a better idea of if a build is working or not.

TheGuy.3568:

So the moral of that story is if you zerg 1 player they will die? Yes, that truly proves the viability of his build (sarcasm). Builds you use in the zergfest we call hot join don’t really matter. Go to tourney or 5v5 and it will give you a better idea of if a build is working or not.

Hello again, and I can assure you I have personally tested out three specific tank builds in 5v5 matchs with some friends and guildies.

Doesn’t work is the easy answer.

But yes that was my point, as I said we zerged him and squashed him, it was enjoyable lol

P.S. I performed a warrior regen test with some friends and the whole thing is in a thread about the healing signet being subpar, I forget the name. If you do care enough to attempt to point me in the correct direction then go read that.