Guild Wars 2

Out of all the posts in professions section, warrior section is the only section where people are endlessly posting their ideas to replace/improve the existing skills sets they are given because of how lackluster their class is compared to every single other class.

There is so much doom and gloom its just mind blogging, I made sure to check necromancer’s section too and necros could use help for sure but aren’t in anywhere near the sad state as warriors.

There is a classes which are poor/strong in certain areas and classes like warrior who are the laughing stock of the entire sPvP community that even the dev themselves laugh and are widely known as a “free kill”. I’ll keep playing warrior because I find it entertaining when I pummel the lesser skilled players in a 1v1 as a warrior.

Forestgreen.7981:

Out of all the posts in professions section, warrior section is the only section where people are endlessly posting their ideas to replace/improve

I noticed this myself recently. The other profession forums mostly talk about their builds, individual skill uses, teamups with other classes, and finally their cool kills/teamplays/whatevers.

Warriors forum is flooded with posts about how to improve the class and make it more fun, balanced, and viable.

The natives are restless, ANet.

The problem is this….

WvW (Roaming) – Average
WvW (Zerging) – The current OP class
sPvP – Average
PvE/Dungeons – Really strong

So, how do you improve WvW roaming and sPvP without making WvW zerging and PvE completely OP?

you know they started splitting pve/wvw/spvp changes 2 patches ago right?

style.6173:

The problem is this….

WvW (Roaming) – Average
WvW (Zerging) – The current OP class
sPvP – Average
PvE/Dungeons – Really strong

So, how do you improve WvW roaming and sPvP without making WvW zerging and PvE completely OP?

Roaming: Horrible, almost every class does it better.

Zerging: Average, every class is good at Zerging. Warriors are a missile, however they don’t bring nearly the crowd control a necromancer/elementalist can in Zergs. Unfortunately Hammer warriors lead the fight, however they die very quickly and are very squishy.

Spvp: Horrible, i’d rather bring a ranger’s pet, more damage+more survivability.

PvE/Dungeons: Average, they are good in old content (CoF Path 1.) and horrible at new content (Karka.)

You should see the video of a warrior trying to solo a Karka, wheras every other class can solo them, warriors cannot without luck+lots and lots of skill, one mistake = instant death.

I think the karka video was a troll. Every class can solo the vet karkas it just takes along time.

AlBundy.7851:

I think the karka video was a troll. Every class can solo the vet karkas it just takes along time.

Dude… Warriors have the LEAST get out of jail free cards. of any class. IF WE SCREW Up, we lose.

Meanwhile, if a mesmer screws up, he can portal away multiple times, so can thief. Rangers can use buttons and swoop away and evade and has much higher regen and better traits and can kite as well. Warriors are just horrible at high-end pve.

you’re right

Daecollo.9578:

style.6173:

The problem is this….

WvW (Roaming) – Average
WvW (Zerging) – The current OP class
sPvP – Average
PvE/Dungeons – Really strong

So, how do you improve WvW roaming and sPvP without making WvW zerging and PvE completely OP?

Roaming: Horrible, almost every class does it better.

Zerging: Average, every class is good at Zerging. Warriors are a missile, however they don’t bring nearly the crowd control a necromancer/elementalist can in Zergs. Unfortunately Hammer warriors lead the fight, however they die very quickly and are very squishy.

Spvp: Horrible, i’d rather bring a ranger’s pet, more damage+more survivability.

PvE/Dungeons: Average, they are good in old content (CoF Path 1.) and horrible at new content (Karka.)

You should see the video of a warrior trying to solo a Karka, wheras every other class can solo them, warriors cannot without luck+lots and lots of skill, one mistake = instant death.

Sorry but this is a deluded exaggeration. Warriors are the absolute kings of PvE. There is no question there.

We are decent in PvP, our problem with TPvP is our lack of a niche. Every class can do something better than us, but that doesn’t mean we’re horrible, we just need some buffs.

Also, that Karka video was made for comedic irony. It was making fun of Warriors who think they can faceroll all content. Not sure why you say we have “no get out of jail free cards” either. We have the shield block, endure pain, plenty of damage reductions, the second best access to stability, and countless gap closers which can be used to make a gap or escape.

Warriors are not viable in high end PvP, I agree with that, but the rest of your post is simply ridiculous.

Donut.6914:

Daecollo.9578:

style.6173:

The problem is this….

WvW (Roaming) – Average
WvW (Zerging) – The current OP class
sPvP – Average
PvE/Dungeons – Really strong

So, how do you improve WvW roaming and sPvP without making WvW zerging and PvE completely OP?

Roaming: Horrible, almost every class does it better.

Zerging: Average, every class is good at Zerging. Warriors are a missile, however they don’t bring nearly the crowd control a necromancer/elementalist can in Zergs. Unfortunately Hammer warriors lead the fight, however they die very quickly and are very squishy.

Spvp: Horrible, i’d rather bring a ranger’s pet, more damage+more survivability.

PvE/Dungeons: Average, they are good in old content (CoF Path 1.) and horrible at new content (Karka.)

You should see the video of a warrior trying to solo a Karka, wheras every other class can solo them, warriors cannot without luck+lots and lots of skill, one mistake = instant death.

Sorry but this is a deluded exaggeration. Warriors are the absolute kings of PvE. There is no question there.

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my guardian laughs hard.

Lighter.5631:

Donut.6914:

Daecollo.9578:

style.6173:

The problem is this….

WvW (Roaming) – Average
WvW (Zerging) – The current OP class
sPvP – Average
PvE/Dungeons – Really strong

So, how do you improve WvW roaming and sPvP without making WvW zerging and PvE completely OP?

Roaming: Horrible, almost every class does it better.

Zerging: Average, every class is good at Zerging. Warriors are a missile, however they don’t bring nearly the crowd control a necromancer/elementalist can in Zergs. Unfortunately Hammer warriors lead the fight, however they die very quickly and are very squishy.

Spvp: Horrible, i’d rather bring a ranger’s pet, more damage+more survivability.

PvE/Dungeons: Average, they are good in old content (CoF Path 1.) and horrible at new content (Karka.)

You should see the video of a warrior trying to solo a Karka, wheras every other class can solo them, warriors cannot without luck+lots and lots of skill, one mistake = instant death.

Sorry but this is a deluded exaggeration. Warriors are the absolute kings of PvE. There is no question there.

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my guardian laughs hard.

Last time I checked the current PvE meta is 3 Warriors, 1 Guard, and 1 Mesmer. Not sure why your Guard is laughing.

Unless we’re discussing PvP, in which case your Guard has every right to laugh at Warriors.

What’s your definition of decent?

AlBundy.7851:

What’s your definition of decent?

Being a help to the team in mid-tier PvP. I agree with people saying Warriors are the worst PvP class, that’s pretty much common knowledge.

However, Warriors are not THAT BAD. We are not viable in the best of the best PvP. In our current state we will never make it to the tournaments that get live casted. We are still functional in amateur tournaments though. Warriors require more situational awareness than any other class. I can’t charge into a group and expect to survive like I can on an Ele or Mes, but that doesn’t mean I’m useless. Instead of charging in, I have to lure them to a vantage point and pick them off one by one.

Warriors are not viable, but we’re not as bad as everyone is claiming. We need better condition removal and more ways to pressure a target (2 things that ANet is working on as we speak according to the SotG podcast.)

What’s mid tier pvp?

AlBundy.7851:

What’s mid tier pvp?

I already said: amateur tournaments. 5 people from a guild grouping up and playing 5 people from another guild. The players are not famous or really competitive/organized. low-tier is public and high-tier is tournaments with like Team Paradigm and the other popular GW2 teams. I have won many casually competitive 5v5 tournaments on my Warrior.

@Donut.

Don’t say Vague terms like “PvE” Tell me which dungeon this is best at.

Daecollo.9578:

@Donut.

Don’t say Vague terms like “PvE” Tell me which dungeon this is best at.

Fractals above 30 (under 30 is easy and doesn’t matter), Arah, and pretty much any group content in PvE. I’m not saying other classes are weak in PvE, any combination of class can do any PvE content. But the fastest speedruns are from teams that run 3 Warriors for max DPS, 1 Guard as an anchor, and 1 Mesmer for utility.

Donut,

Warriors are not kings of PVE right now guardians are. The only groups looking for multiple warrs are COF which is a joke. The only reason warriors look good in PVE right now in speed runs Is because the content dies quickly. You take warriors into a group that doesn’t have high dps and most of those warriors will be flat on the ground very shortly.. Thats all we have in group utility is damage. Warriors in harder content have the same issue that we have in high end pvp and WvW. Now I am not saying warriors are bad in PVE by any means, but we have serious problems…

We lack sustain Pure and simple, our heals are terribad and we have no real way to stay in a fight. In fact those exact same Gap closers that you were talking about are completely shut down by cripple and chill. Not to mention in any decent sized fight cripple and chill are on so many skills that they get tossed around like candy at a parade.

The most laughable thing is, not only does cripple and chill shut down our weapon gap closers, it also shuts down our ONLY gap closing Utility skill Bulls Charge.

A simple condition, that is even tacked to professions AUTO ATTACK Completely shuts down our 40 second cool down utility skill, and our whole class. In pvp we get kited to death while getting pounded on with no way to fill our health back up or take a beating, aside long cools downs.

Not to mention that almost every serious pvp warrior has to have either a one handed sword or a great-sword for mobility otherwise the problem is completely exemplified.

I never knew about this area between hotjoin and tpvp

BlueprintLFE.2358:

Donut,

Warriors are not kings of PVE right now guardians are. The only groups looking for multiple warrs are COF which is a joke. Warriors in harder content have the same issue that we have in high end pvp and WvW. Now I am not saying warriors are bad in PVE by any means, but we have serious problems…

We lack sustain Pure and simple, our heals are terribad and we have no real way to stay in a fight. In fact those exact same Gap closers that you were talking about are completely shut down by cripple and chill. Not to mention in any decent sized fight cripple and chill are on so many skills that they get tossed around like candy at a parade.

The most laughable thing is, not only does cripple and chill shut down our weapon gap closers, it also shuts down our ONLY gap closing Utility skill Bulls Charge.

A simple condition, that is even tacked to professions AUTO ATTACK Completely shuts down our 40 second cool down utility skill, and our whole class. In pvp we get kited to death while getting pounded on with no way to fill our health back up or take a beating, aside long cools downs.

Not to mention that almost every serious pvp warrior has to have either a one handed sword or a great-sword for mobility otherwise the problem is completely exemplified.

In PvP I agree we need more ways to stick on a target/negate conditions. I don’t know why I have to keep repeating myself about PvP.

In PvE, that is completely a L2P issue. Mobs attack so slowly in PvE that a good Warrior can completely avoid damage. I recommend checking out Strife’s channel on Youtube if you don’t believe me. You don’t need healing if you don’t take damage.

AlBundy.7851:

I never knew about this area between hotjoin and tpvp

You didn’t think there was a middle ground between a noob roaming around an 8v8 not focusing objectives, and Team Paradigm? o.o

ya kinda but not the player the mode never knew about mid tier pvp I just always thought there was hotjoin and tpvp

Donut.6914:

BlueprintLFE.2358:

Donut,

Warriors are not kings of PVE right now guardians are. The only groups looking for multiple warrs are COF which is a joke. Warriors in harder content have the same issue that we have in high end pvp and WvW. Now I am not saying warriors are bad in PVE by any means, but we have serious problems…

We lack sustain Pure and simple, our heals are terribad and we have no real way to stay in a fight. In fact those exact same Gap closers that you were talking about are completely shut down by cripple and chill. Not to mention in any decent sized fight cripple and chill are on so many skills that they get tossed around like candy at a parade.

The most laughable thing is, not only does cripple and chill shut down our weapon gap closers, it also shuts down our ONLY gap closing Utility skill Bulls Charge.

A simple condition, that is even tacked to professions AUTO ATTACK Completely shuts down our 40 second cool down utility skill, and our whole class. In pvp we get kited to death while getting pounded on with no way to fill our health back up or take a beating, aside long cools downs.

Not to mention that almost every serious pvp warrior has to have either a one handed sword or a great-sword for mobility otherwise the problem is completely exemplified.

In PvP I agree we need more ways to stick on a target/negate conditions. I don’t know why I have to keep repeating myself about PvP.

In PvE, that is completely a L2P issue. Mobs attack so slowly in PvE that a good Warrior can completely avoid damage. I recommend checking out Strife’s channel on Youtube if you don’t believe me. You don’t need healing if you don’t take damage.

Donut I edited my post to include the problems with warriors in PVE. He only reason people take warriors is because the content dies quickly. If you take warriors in a group without that dps they will be flat on the ground most of the time because lack of sustain. So yes we are beasts in 3 war 1 guard and mes parties (good call about strifes channel mate, I watch it all the time, But 1 or 2 warrs in a group without that dps is goig to be feeling the lack of sustain hard.

For dungeons, i’d rather take 4 guardians and a mesmer.

You guys are at this BS again!? It’s like you people have nothing better to do in your lives than whine.

Daecollo.9578:

@Donut.

Don’t say Vague terms like “PvE” Tell me which dungeon this is best at.

Don’t you dare go accusing others of being vague as you could be the definition of the term. You and a lot of others will spout Warriors are the worst. Period. If that isn’t a vague generalization of the profession’s capabilities, I don’t know what is.

Daecollo should get an Oscar now

BlueprintLFE.2358:

Donut.6914:

BlueprintLFE.2358:

Donut,

Warriors are not kings of PVE right now guardians are. The only groups looking for multiple warrs are COF which is a joke. Warriors in harder content have the same issue that we have in high end pvp and WvW. Now I am not saying warriors are bad in PVE by any means, but we have serious problems…

We lack sustain Pure and simple, our heals are terribad and we have no real way to stay in a fight. In fact those exact same Gap closers that you were talking about are completely shut down by cripple and chill. Not to mention in any decent sized fight cripple and chill are on so many skills that they get tossed around like candy at a parade.

The most laughable thing is, not only does cripple and chill shut down our weapon gap closers, it also shuts down our ONLY gap closing Utility skill Bulls Charge.

A simple condition, that is even tacked to professions AUTO ATTACK Completely shuts down our 40 second cool down utility skill, and our whole class. In pvp we get kited to death while getting pounded on with no way to fill our health back up or take a beating, aside long cools downs.

Not to mention that almost every serious pvp warrior has to have either a one handed sword or a great-sword for mobility otherwise the problem is completely exemplified.

In PvP I agree we need more ways to stick on a target/negate conditions. I don’t know why I have to keep repeating myself about PvP.

In PvE, that is completely a L2P issue. Mobs attack so slowly in PvE that a good Warrior can completely avoid damage. I recommend checking out Strife’s channel on Youtube if you don’t believe me. You don’t need healing if you don’t take damage.

Donut I edited my post to include the problems with warriors in PVE. He only reason people take warriors is because the content dies quickly. If you take warriors in a group without that dps they will be flat on the ground most of the time because lack of sustain. So yes we are beasts in 3 war 1 guard and mes parties (good call about strifes channel mate, I watch it all the time, But 1 or 2 warrs in a group without that dps is goig to be feeling the lack of sustain hard.

Well I agree completely, Warriors PvE function is full DPS. A good Warrior that can avoid damage is able to stay alive while simultaneously dealing the best DPS in PvE. Sadly, GW2 PvE revolves completely around DPS and finishing as fast as possible. Warriors have the best PvE DPS, so that’s where my “king of PvE” logic comes from.

I think we should replace the term warrior’s dps with 100 blades. I think it’s offensive to mention warrior’s with dps.

Leo G.4501:

You guys are at this BS again!? It’s like you people have nothing better to do in your lives than whine.

Daecollo.9578:

@Donut.

Don’t say Vague terms like “PvE” Tell me which dungeon this is best at.

Don’t you dare go accusing others of being vague as you could be the definition of the term. You and a lot of others will spout Warriors are the worst. Period. If that isn’t a vague generalization of the profession’s capabilities, I don’t know what is.

No, are YOU at it again? Warrior has 0 builds for tPvP and if your entire group isn’t running DPS builds in PVE then the warrior will flop like a fish out of water. Go ahead. Try running CoF Path 1 with the Glass cannon spec with a Pug group that aren’t speed running. There is No survive-ability. Warriors are great in some pve with but with a lot of circumstances taken into effect.

AlBundy.7851:

I think we should replace the term warrior’s dps with 100 blades. I think it’s offensive to mention warrior’s with dps.

Are we playing the same game?

Is it called mid tier pvp?

AlBundy.7851:

Is it called mid tier pvp?

It’s called Guild Wars 2, maybe you’ve heard of it?

AlBundy.7851:

I think we should replace the term warrior’s dps with 100 blades. I think it’s offensive to mention warrior’s with dps.

Just because you’re a sheep and can’t think of decent builds outside of zerker GS doesn’t mean it’s the only option. I’ve worked great using Axe zerker, still can pump out decent DPS with a hybrid sword build and still survive easily, pull out a hammer for AoE or combo with Bow.

Bacon Please.8407:

No, are YOU at it again? Warrior has 0 builds for tPvP and if your entire group isn’t running DPS builds in PVE then the warrior will flop like a fish out of water.

So then have a separate set of gear besides zerker to swap to?

And tPvP is, like, the smallest portion of PvP the game has to offer. Not that it’s okay to leave Warriors in the state they are with that regard, but it’s crying about such a small portion of play, likely not even half the people whining on these boards will ever even play in high-ranked tourneys. How many have you played in? How many do you think the average player will participate in?

Most of the doom on these boards is only fueled by the common opinion of tournament players that warrior is bad. Sheep will regurgitate that and try to apply it to every situation. Warrior isn’t as bad in all forms of play as you think or say it is.

Are we talking about pve?

I just want to say this thread is officially awesome ohh it’s so sweet. This is straight up payback /highfive if you know what is going on.

AlBundy.7851:

I just want to say this thread is officially awesome ohh it’s so sweet. This is straight up payback /highfive if you know what is going on.

Not sure who you’re seeking revenge on. I have like 8 posts on this forum and I have never come into contact with you before today.

AlBundy.7851:

Are we talking about pve?

In general.

From my experience, weapons will be niche across all professions. There will always be a ‘DPS weapon’ while the others are something else. Warriors tend to be DPS regardless of weapon, with just ‘less DPS’ with certain weapons.

Donut.6914:

AlBundy.7851:

I just want to say this thread is officially awesome ohh it’s so sweet. This is straight up payback /highfive if you know what is going on.

Not sure who you’re seeking revenge on. I have like 8 posts on this forum and I have never come into contact with you before today.

Perhaps he’s talking about me? Apparently, people on these forums are under the assumption that I’m a Ranger and I believe it’s been announced Ranger pet’s DPS is being nerfed.

Funny thing is, I’ve played my Ranger the least. I’m more likely an Elementalist since I’ve actually played that profession over more content, it was my 1st lvl 80, is the only character I do high level fractals on, is my general go-to character for guild WvW and likely where I’ve spent most of my time playing. Still, I have 2 Warriors, my 1st created character being a Warrior and have the most overall fun in PvE with a Warrior using various weapons and builds.

Or it could be that there’s been an announcement about a change I didn’t hear about for Warrior…wouldn’t really be revenge against anyone though if Adrenaline were changed for the better.

Donut your just collateral damage don’t worry. Leo is the prize

Donut.6914:

Lighter.5631:

Donut.6914:

Daecollo.9578:

style.6173:

The problem is this….

WvW (Roaming) – Average
WvW (Zerging) – The current OP class
sPvP – Average
PvE/Dungeons – Really strong

So, how do you improve WvW roaming and sPvP without making WvW zerging and PvE completely OP?

Roaming: Horrible, almost every class does it better.

Zerging: Average, every class is good at Zerging. Warriors are a missile, however they don’t bring nearly the crowd control a necromancer/elementalist can in Zergs. Unfortunately Hammer warriors lead the fight, however they die very quickly and are very squishy.

Spvp: Horrible, i’d rather bring a ranger’s pet, more damage+more survivability.

PvE/Dungeons: Average, they are good in old content (CoF Path 1.) and horrible at new content (Karka.)

You should see the video of a warrior trying to solo a Karka, wheras every other class can solo them, warriors cannot without luck+lots and lots of skill, one mistake = instant death.

Sorry but this is a deluded exaggeration. Warriors are the absolute kings of PvE. There is no question there.

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my guardian laughs hard.

Last time I checked the current PvE meta is 3 Warriors, 1 Guard, and 1 Mesmer. Not sure why your Guard is laughing.

Unless we’re discussing PvP, in which case your Guard has every right to laugh at Warriors.

because those 3 warriors are depending on guard and mesmer to keep them alive lolol
they choose 3 warriors, just because warriors have the most damage on AIs, they can be easily replaced by any other prof, if no one cares about the boss dying 2-4mins late.

AlBundy.7851:

Donut your just collateral damage don’t worry. Leo is the prize

Ouch?

I guess people have to get their thrills somehow. I was thinking of finally rolling up a Thief since they practically mystify me when I fight them. I guess that’ll make me a Thief now?

Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you

I wonder why people keep including PVE in any of the warrior’s discussions. PVE In this game is a joke…Even when they try to add “Mechanics” to a boss, said mechanics can be dodge by simply not standing in a bunch of rings or jumping lol…not to mention a dodge roll if everything else fails or you came back from Akitteng.

Pvpwise, some classes got far too many escape mechanisms, that is my only problem with the game as a whole, with the warrior per say I can only say the class was build for a game that isn’t GW2. If you bring the current warrior to an old school MMO with no dodge rolls, no everyone shares the same boons and moves way faster than you, or can dodge your skills just by side walking you, like every other mmo, then warriors would be fine, but since this game is designed around a kinda realistic hit detection and dodging any critical skill will deny you all your damage the warrior as it stands now simply can’t stand a chance.

I’ve been reading through all of this and have a few things to add. I’ve been playing only warrior since the game’s launch and have over 800 hours on it.

As far as I see it the problems are as follow:

1. Lack of sustain – simple as that. A warrior is a melee class that cannot sustain the engagements it was intended for. If I can’t heal I can’t fight. And since I have to be melee I’ll probably take more hits on average in order to get into my effective engagement range. But guess what – our heals are BELOW AVERAGE.
Fix? Healing Signet needs a buff.

2.Too easy to shut down – gap closers are long CD skills that like people stated above are TOO easy to counter with a basic cripple.We simply can’t pressure. And spike is out of the question since ALL classes have a " you’re in trouble time to get out " button.
This is a problem i think with the game – there’s no ability to spike. EVERY class can push a button and become invulnerable or unreachable. Which forces you in a pressure game that warrior cannot keep up with.

3.Lack of utility- The only reason warrior isn’t as bad in PVE as it is in sPVP and Roaming WvW is the fact that it has ONE thing going – Damage. Enough damage to keep it in the game. But it needs more than that – warriors need to get some DECENT utility skills.

No – not banners – those are " cute " at best – when compared to much more “OP” things such as teleports / mass invisibility/ walls that reflect damage and keep foes out.
Those sort of skills provide “Absolute” effects. They don’t just give you a minor stat bonus. They give you the ability to SKIP a lot of problems , to AVOID a huge amount of damage and so on. They’re very useful and I think warriors should have something similar. Or at least should receive some form of decent compensation.

That’s my two cents right there. There’s a lot more to say and add but you guys have nailed most of the points and it’s getting pretty late.

Arena Net – if you’re reading this please take into account that the player base is asking for a balanced class to play -one that doesn’t have just damage(which is the only thing keeping us in the game – otherwise there’d be NO reason at all for anyone to play war/ take a war in a party ) but also is a viable counter in pvp to all those “OP” classes we see so much these days.

I love my warrior – have played nothing but so far and would like to continue on doing so.

I solo roam a lot.. I tPvP a lot.. I duel a ton. Warriors have the highest direct damage output in the game, all it takes is the ability to manage your cooldowns and timing your skills. Its simple, if you’re blinded, don’t blow your burst. If they have stability, don’t try to cc them, lol.

However, I do think warriors need more viable condi specs, better bunkering capabilities, and more ways to deal with condis so we don’t have to depend so heavily on runes.

Oh and nerf mesmers kthx

Harper.4173:

No – not banners – those are " cute " at best – when compared to much more “OP” things such as teleports / mass invisibility/ walls that reflect damage and keep foes out.

Thing about that is, teleports and mass invisibility don’t really offer much worthwhile utility except in extremely specific situations (and excluding exploits that should be fixed). And I’d sooner expect reflect skills like Wall of Reflection and Feedback to be nerfed as they often trivialize a huge portion of the game.

What Warriors bring as utility is easy damage which should never be overlooked.

Forestgreen.7981:

Out of all the posts in professions section, warrior section is the only section where people are endlessly posting their ideas to replace/improve the existing skills sets they are given because of how lackluster their class is compared to every single other class.

There is so much doom and gloom its just mind blogging, I made sure to check necromancer’s section too and necros could use help for sure but aren’t in anywhere near the sad state as warriors.

There is a classes which are poor/strong in certain areas and classes like warrior who are the laughing stock of the entire sPvP community that even the dev themselves laugh and are widely known as a “free kill”. I’ll keep playing warrior because I find it entertaining when I pummel the lesser skilled players in a 1v1 as a warrior.

Thank you Sir. I was about to write the same post.

Daecollo.9578:

PvE/Dungeons: Average, they are good in old content (CoF Path 1.) and horrible at new content (Karka.)

You should see the video of a warrior trying to solo a Karka, wheras every other class can solo them, warriors cannot without luck+lots and lots of skill, one mistake = instant death.

Daecollo if you ever wanna be taken seriously you need to stop the ridiculous exagerations. Warriors are kings of PvE, bar none. If you’re not facerolling PvE content , including karkas, you’re doing something horribly wrong. Warrior’s issue is PvP, not PvE.

wooosh wooosh do you guys hear that?

Daecollo.9578:

Zerging: Average, every class is good at Zerging. Warriors are a missile, however they don’t bring nearly the crowd control a necromancer/elementalist can in Zergs. Unfortunately Hammer warriors lead the fight, however they die very quickly and are very squishy.

They are most definately not squishy when built for zerg hammering.