Guild Wars 2

Please, for the love of the cosmos, increase the rate of fire or damage output of Dual Shot. It has to be the weakest auto in the game, and makes the LB feel very weak and clumsy as a primary weapon, even if it is still good in certain contexts due to the other skills.

Ranger’s LB was the same way until it received substantial buffs in recent patches to make it more usable. The same should happen here.

Ranger longbow auto has a .9 coefficient (max) and 1 second time; Warrior longbow auto has a .6 coefficient(x2) and a 1.19 second time according to the wiki.

What’s there to complain about with the warrior one?

Xernth.8561:

Ranger longbow auto has a .9 coefficient (max) and 1 second time; Warrior longbow auto has a .6 coefficient(x2) and a 1.19 second time according to the wiki.

What’s there to complain about with the warrior one?

Range
Ranger longbow can do 1200 Default 1500 Traited.
Warrior logbow can do 900 Default 1200 Traited.

Piercing
ranger yes with trait
Warrior no and no

Ranger Auto does more damage than Warrior auto Approximately 50% more damage. It especially does more damage the further the ranger is away. Approximately 100% more damage if traited for 1500. Yes ranger longbow has a longer CD on the Auto but it does significantly more damage. Plus they have rapid fire. Warrior has nothing like Rapid fire on a long bow and nothing like 1500 range or piercing with a bow.

They should probably work on fixing the Stronger Bowstring trait before doing any adjustments to the auto-attacks rate of fire.

Einlanzer.1627:

Please, for the love of the cosmos, increase the rate of fire or damage output of Dual Shot. It has to be the weakest auto in the game, and makes the LB feel very weak and clumsy as a primary weapon, even if it is still good in certain contexts due to the other skills.

Ranger’s LB was the same way until it received substantial buffs in recent patches to make it more usable. The same should happen here.

Elementalist autoattacks say hi.

Warlord.9074:

Xernth.8561:

Ranger longbow auto has a .9 coefficient (max) and 1 second time; Warrior longbow auto has a .6 coefficient(x2) and a 1.19 second time according to the wiki.

What’s there to complain about with the warrior one?

Range
Ranger longbow can do 1200 Default 1500 Traited.
Warrior logbow can do 900 Default 1200 Traited.

Piercing
ranger yes with trait
Warrior no and no

Ranger Auto does more damage than Warrior auto Approximately 50% more damage. It especially does more damage the further the ranger is away. Approximately 100% more damage if traited for 1500. Yes ranger longbow has a longer CD on the Auto but it does significantly more damage. Plus they have rapid fire. Warrior has nothing like Rapid fire on a long bow and nothing like 1500 range or piercing with a bow.

That’s because Rangers are meant to be better with bows than Warriors are – it’s the class’ signature weapon. You do more damage than Rangers in melee range, so it makes sense that Rangers would do more at a range.
You can’t be good at everything, and the warrior’s Longbow is far from the weakest skill in the game.

Maximum Potato.5923:

Warlord.9074:

Xernth.8561:

Ranger longbow auto has a .9 coefficient (max) and 1 second time; Warrior longbow auto has a .6 coefficient(x2) and a 1.19 second time according to the wiki.

What’s there to complain about with the warrior one?

Range
Ranger longbow can do 1200 Default 1500 Traited.
Warrior logbow can do 900 Default 1200 Traited.

Piercing
ranger yes with trait
Warrior no and no

Ranger Auto does more damage than Warrior auto Approximately 50% more damage. It especially does more damage the further the ranger is away. Approximately 100% more damage if traited for 1500. Yes ranger longbow has a longer CD on the Auto but it does significantly more damage. Plus they have rapid fire. Warrior has nothing like Rapid fire on a long bow and nothing like 1500 range or piercing with a bow.

That’s because Rangers are meant to be better with bows than Warriors are – it’s the class’ signature weapon. You do more damage than Rangers in melee range, so it makes sense that Rangers would do more at a range.
You can’t be good at everything, and the warrior’s Longbow is far from the weakest skill in the game.

I didn’t know longbows were skills. Thats news to me. Yes I agree that rangers should be better with bows than warriors. I disagree that warrior #1 longbow skill doesn’t fall into the categorically weak. All and All the warrior longbow is not a bad weapon far from the weakest weaponset in the game but we are not talking about the weapon we are talking about 1 skill on the weapon which is worst than the necro staff #1 which is generally considered weak. If we want to not just compare the #1 warrior bow skill the the #1 Staff skill on the necro and compare the whole thing staff vs bow the staff is way better.

Furthermore considering that the #1 is so weak on the longbow lets look at the other skills.

Fan of fire looks pretty decent on paper but is it the OP monster? Simply no. The tool tip would lead you to believe this is a great skill, in practice I will convince you otherwise. It shoots 3 bolts, but on a single target it only 1/3 hits the Target thus the damage of fan of fire is = to 1/3 of the damage listed on the tool tip.. This is also not an AOE as people claim it is its a 3 target Piercing attack and the only way that is going to happen is to be in melee range and shoot into a clump of targets which in practice defeats the purpose of it being a ranged weapon and doesn’t happen like the tool tip says.

Arcing arrow
Pretty decent AOE damage. However it is a slow traveling projectile and at range highly telegraphable and dodgeable.

Smoldering arrow
All this skill does in practice is apply a 5 sec blind the damage in so weak its almost non existent.

Pin Down pretty Decnt skill no compaints. Soon to be highly telegraphable more telegraphed than it is now. Probably will be very hard to land after the nerf.

Compustive Shot F1 burst still pretty decent but it was nerfed.

All and all Longbow is not the OP weapon ANET and the QQers claim it is.

I vote bring the original Pin Down Back.

Warlord.9074:

Smoldering arrow
All this skill does in practice is apply a 5 sec blind the damage in so weak its almost non existent.

This projectile has a 1/4 cast time so this is pretty fast. You can use it to block one attack like Earthshaker or Eviscerate.

It is weak when you can’t use it right, but if you are skillful, you can block 7k worth of damage.

runeblade.7514:

Warlord.9074:

Smoldering arrow
All this skill does in practice is apply a 5 sec blind the damage in so weak its almost non existent.

This projectile has a 1/4 cast time so this is pretty fast. You can use it to block one attack like Earthshaker or Eviscerate.

It is weak when you can’t use it right, but if you are skillful, you can block 7k worth of damage.

Regardless of how you use it the damage is weak. So its damage is weak fan of fires damage in practice is weak regardless of what the tool tip says and the #1 skill is weak. That leaves us 2 strong skills 1 highly telegraphed, 2 soon to be highly telegrahed. And the Burst skill which is pretty decent but also was nerfed and you can just walk right out of the fire field. No one is forcing you to stand inside it and eat it all. All at 900 Range. How is this better than thief shortbow? its not who is also not a ranger.

That makes the Bow OK but no where near great.