Is 30/0/0/10/30 better than 30/25/0/0/15
Forceful Greatsword kinda sucks if you have a group with multiple warriors, as your lengthy might stacks from For Great Justice are going to be replaced with the short ones from Forceful Greatsword.
Also, the 30/0/0/10/30 setup offers 150 power to your whole group. And naturally, if there are multiple people, you can use something like Empowered instead.
In general, you want to go 30/25/0/0/15 for pugs and 30/0/0/10/30 for organized groups.
Don’t forget pro Desperate Power build.
For PvE 30/25 seems like the way to go. You really want that GS trait.
For PvP just LOLNO. If you’re burning 30 points in the power tree you’re doing it wrong.
When I used to run glass GS axe I went 30/0/0/10/30 Lyssa runes, which is much more viable than 30/25/0/0/15 beyond the lowest of tiers.
In this unblockable condi training meta however it’s simply too hard to make effective IMO. So if this is spvp I’d recommend checking out that skull cracker 3.0 post for a decent GS build.
Phaatonn, London UK
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When I used to run glass GS axe I went 30/0/0/10/30 Lyssa runes, which is much more viable than 30/25/0/0/15 beyond the lowest of tiers.
In this unblockable condi training meta however it’s simply too hard to make effective IMO. So if this is spvp I’d recommend checking out that skull cracker 3.0 post for a decent GS build.
I’d say it’s for pve.
The more mobs you hit, the higher the might stacks.
The more mobs you hit, the higher the might stacks.
Ay read that afterwards :/ saw someone make a comment on spvp though, so may as well have a pvp reply here too..
Phaatonn, London UK
I did some Indestructible Golem testing last night. 30/0/0/10/30 does around the same kind of damage, at much lower might stacks. But…it also has a 2 weapon slot rotation where the latter you only focus on one weapon…so you have a slot free.
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I did some Indestructible Golem testing last night. 30/0/0/10/30 does around the same kind of damage, at much lower might stacks. But…it also has a 2 weapon slot rotation where the latter you only focus on one weapon…so you have a slot free.
Yeah, but the 30/0/0/10/30 is more of an organized team spec, where you can expect there to be other team mates (possibly more warriors or a mesmer) to provide you with high might stacks.
Also, I don’t see how 30/0/0/10/30 supposedly differs from 30/25/0/0/15 for swapping weapons. Heck, I run 0/30/20/0/20 and I swap whenever my swap is out of cooldown.
I did some Indestructible Golem testing last night. 30/0/0/10/30 does around the same kind of damage, at much lower might stacks. But…it also has a 2 weapon slot rotation where the latter you only focus on one weapon…so you have a slot free.
They both have swap trait, what’re you on?…
30/0/0/10/30 is superior in group play by a fairly significant margin. 30/25 is slightly better in solo play. But min maxing for solo play is a ridiculous concept unless you’re trying to complete solo boss kill records or something like that.
@Olba and Player Character.
Okay…let me break it down. The 30/0/0/10/30 has to use both weapon spots in a rotation in order to perform the same damage as the 30/25/0/0/15 does. However…the latter build only uses the greatsword to get roughly the same numbers.
The choice is the first spec is better in groups (as said before, due to might stacks), but has a more difficult rotation that takes up both your weapon slots to utilize to full effect. The second spec is better in solo since you can just stay in greatsword and use the second weapon slot for a Longbow or rifle since swapping out means you lose might stacks.
I’d still choose the second since the DPS is going to be in the very, very low percentile in terms of difference. But then again…the first could also be used for an axe based build instead…so…pick your poison.
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@Olba and Player Character.
Okay…let me break it down. The 30/0/0/10/30 has to use both weapon spots in a rotation in order to perform the same damage as the 30/25/0/0/15 does. However…the latter build only uses the greatsword to get roughly the same numbers.
The choice is the first spec is better in groups (as said before, due to might stacks), but has a more difficult rotation that takes up both your weapon slots to utilize to full effect. The second spec is better in solo since you can just stay in greatsword and use the second weapon slot for a Longbow or rifle since swapping out means you lose might stacks.
I’d still choose the second since the DPS is going to be in the very, very low percentile in terms of difference. But then again…the first could also be used for an axe based build instead…so…pick your poison.
No, let me break it down for you.
Why would you auto gsword during your 100b and WA cd’s?
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@Olba and Player Character.
Okay…let me break it down. The 30/0/0/10/30 has to use both weapon spots in a rotation in order to perform the same damage as the 30/25/0/0/15 does. However…the latter build only uses the greatsword to get roughly the same numbers.
The choice is the first spec is better in groups (as said before, due to might stacks), but has a more difficult rotation that takes up both your weapon slots to utilize to full effect. The second spec is better in solo since you can just stay in greatsword and use the second weapon slot for a Longbow or rifle since swapping out means you lose might stacks.
I’d still choose the second since the DPS is going to be in the very, very low percentile in terms of difference. But then again…the first could also be used for an axe based build instead…so…pick your poison.
Let me further breakdown the breakdown for you.
even if you preferred a “pure greatsword” set up, your dps would be higher with a 30/0/0/10/30 build so long as you had two greatswords one of which had a sigil of battle and you swapped back and forth on cool down.
I just blew your mind.
Oh wait.
I just realized that people who want “pure greatsword” builds are usually bads who want a longbow on their swap so they can ranged boss that are tew hardz. Why someone is going to spend so much time min/maxing their build decision only to throw away any gain from the min/max by ranging bosses, I’ll never know.
@Olba and Player Character.
Okay…let me break it down. The 30/0/0/10/30 has to use both weapon spots in a rotation in order to perform the same damage as the 30/25/0/0/15 does. However…the latter build only uses the greatsword to get roughly the same numbers.
The choice is the first spec is better in groups (as said before, due to might stacks), but has a more difficult rotation that takes up both your weapon slots to utilize to full effect. The second spec is better in solo since you can just stay in greatsword and use the second weapon slot for a Longbow or rifle since swapping out means you lose might stacks.
I’d still choose the second since the DPS is going to be in the very, very low percentile in terms of difference. But then again…the first could also be used for an axe based build instead…so…pick your poison.
Let me further breakdown the breakdown for you.
even if you preferred a “pure greatsword” set up, your dps would be higher with a 30/0/0/10/30 build so long as you had two greatswords one of which had a sigil of battle and you swapped back and forth on cool down.
I just blew your mind.
Oh wait.
I just realized that people who want “pure greatsword” builds are usually bads who want a longbow on their swap so they can ranged boss that are tew hardz. Why someone is going to spend so much time min/maxing their build decision only to throw away any gain from the min/max by ranging bosses, I’ll never know.
cuz mah mf gear scales better at range brah