Guild Wars 2

That’s the question. I hate the Longbow bunker brainless playstyle with a passion. Is there any way to play something else without being a detriment to your team? Metabattle.com doesn’t have an answer.

YuiRS.8129:

That’s the question. I hate the Longbow bunker brainless playstyle with a passion. Is there any way to play something else without being a detriment to your team? Metabattle.com doesn’t have an answer.

Gs/hammer is good 20606.

There is an axe/mace and hammer build that runs frenzy i think. Duno what the traits are.

There is also axe/shield and gs that is useable.

Could also run the skullcrack/gs build if you wished.

I have seen a few Sword/sword wars but they use the longbow for 2nd weapon.

For the life of me, i will never understand why shoutbow became a thing. Its bad.

you do know that longbow is not only used in bunker build right?..

YuiRS.8129:

That’s the question. I hate the Longbow bunker brainless playstyle with a passion. Is there any way to play something else without being a detriment to your team? Metabattle.com doesn’t have an answer.

http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6259903

http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6152446

But they take A LOT of skill to play. You have to be patient.

P.S Try to not listen to the whiners like the guy above me, listen to yourself and just keep being a better player while you’re at it.

i play hammer mace/mace with valkyrie amulet and shoutheals. great support, super tanky, and i can stunlock anyone. engineers and necromancers are no problem in teamfights.

Metabattle does have the answer: having no lonbow sucks. Hard. :P There are some WvW builds that are perfectly viable without longbow, but they all fail in PvP.

And longbow is not a bunker weapon at all, many burst builds use for instance Axe or GS warriors.

witcher.3197:

Metabattle does have the answer: having no lonbow sucks. Hard. :P There are some WvW builds that are perfectly viable without longbow, but they all fail in PvP.

And longbow is not a bunker weapon at all, many burst builds use for instance Axe or GS warriors.

Frenzy doesn’t suck in competitive play, people are just bad at using them or are too attached to easy builds such as shoutbow and hambow cause lack of mechanics. That’s all. Sure it doesn’t duel as well but there are ways to get around that such as rotating better and ganking better.

BlackTruth.6813:

YuiRS.8129:

That’s the question. I hate the Longbow bunker brainless playstyle with a passion. Is there any way to play something else without being a detriment to your team? Metabattle.com doesn’t have an answer.

http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6259903

http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6152446

But they take A LOT of skill to play. You have to be patient.

P.S Try to not listen to the whiners like the guy above me, listen to yourself and just keep being a better player while you’re at it.

You keep listing those videos, but how are people supposed to try them without the traits/runes/sigils? I’m pretty sure I can tell just from the gameplay but to someone not into theorycrafting it helps to have a reference.

witcher.3197:

Metabattle does have the answer: having no lonbow sucks. Hard. :P There are some WvW builds that are perfectly viable without longbow, but they all fail in PvP.

And longbow is not a bunker weapon at all, many burst builds use for instance Axe or GS warriors.

Oh yeah, I’m aware of that. I just meant that cele LB builds typically do low-ish damage until they can get those Might stacks.

Thanks for the answers, by the way. I was curious to see what the community thinks about it.

BurrTheKing.8571:

BlackTruth.6813:

YuiRS.8129:

That’s the question. I hate the Longbow bunker brainless playstyle with a passion. Is there any way to play something else without being a detriment to your team? Metabattle.com doesn’t have an answer.

http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6259903

http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6152446

But they take A LOT of skill to play. You have to be patient.

P.S Try to not listen to the whiners like the guy above me, listen to yourself and just keep being a better player while you’re at it.

You keep listing those videos, but how are people supposed to try them without the traits/runes/sigils? I’m pretty sure I can tell just from the gameplay but to someone not into theorycrafting it helps to have a reference.

im not 100% sure of the sigils, but i think its something close to this for the Doom Hammer 2nd link (http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6152446)

Assassin X.8573:

BurrTheKing.8571:

BlackTruth.6813:

YuiRS.8129:

That’s the question. I hate the Longbow bunker brainless playstyle with a passion. Is there any way to play something else without being a detriment to your team? Metabattle.com doesn’t have an answer.

http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6259903

http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6152446

But they take A LOT of skill to play. You have to be patient.

P.S Try to not listen to the whiners like the guy above me, listen to yourself and just keep being a better player while you’re at it.

You keep listing those videos, but how are people supposed to try them without the traits/runes/sigils? I’m pretty sure I can tell just from the gameplay but to someone not into theorycrafting it helps to have a reference.

im not 100% sure of the sigils, but i think its something close to this for the Doom Hammer 2nd link (http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6152446)

From what I’ve seen, it looks like he runs maybe 0/4/6/0/4, and doesn’t take cleansing ire. Takes Balanced Stance + Defy Pain in Defense.

edit: Actually I see might on weapon swap. 6 in discipline, no idea what the other 2 points go to. Strength seems like the only option, but with a build like this for all we know he’s taking immob on cripple. Might make up for his zero mobility, I guess.

BlackTruth.6813:

witcher.3197:

Metabattle does have the answer: having no lonbow sucks. Hard. :P There are some WvW builds that are perfectly viable without longbow, but they all fail in PvP.

And longbow is not a bunker weapon at all, many burst builds use for instance Axe or GS warriors.

Frenzy doesn’t suck in competitive play, people are just bad at using them or are too attached to easy builds such as shoutbow and hambow cause lack of mechanics. That’s all. Sure it doesn’t duel as well but there are ways to get around that such as rotating better and ganking better.

So ROM and every other top warrior sucks according to you and are not even close to your skill level.

Larynx.2453:

Assassin X.8573:

BurrTheKing.8571:

BlackTruth.6813:

YuiRS.8129:

That’s the question. I hate the Longbow bunker brainless playstyle with a passion. Is there any way to play something else without being a detriment to your team? Metabattle.com doesn’t have an answer.

http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6259903

http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6152446

But they take A LOT of skill to play. You have to be patient.

P.S Try to not listen to the whiners like the guy above me, listen to yourself and just keep being a better player while you’re at it.

You keep listing those videos, but how are people supposed to try them without the traits/runes/sigils? I’m pretty sure I can tell just from the gameplay but to someone not into theorycrafting it helps to have a reference.

im not 100% sure of the sigils, but i think its something close to this for the Doom Hammer 2nd link (http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6152446)

From what I’ve seen, it looks like he runs maybe 0/4/6/0/4, and doesn’t take cleansing ire. Takes Balanced Stance + Defy Pain in Defense.

edit: Actually I see might on weapon swap. 6 in discipline, no idea what the other 2 points go to. Strength seems like the only option, but with a build like this for all we know he’s taking immob on cripple. Might make up for his zero mobility, I guess.

They definitely are in strength – for dodge roll ownage and extra hp.
I can’t watch the videos on my phone, but I think that if he’s using the greatsword variant he goes 4/0/6/0/4 instead. So 2/0/6/0/6 for mace/shield axe/mace, and 4/0/6/0/4 for greatsword axe/shield(/mace).

I can post the full build with sigils etc. later if you’re keen.

Siroso.2769:

Larynx.2453:

Assassin X.8573:

BurrTheKing.8571:

BlackTruth.6813:

YuiRS.8129:

That’s the question. I hate the Longbow bunker brainless playstyle with a passion. Is there any way to play something else without being a detriment to your team? Metabattle.com doesn’t have an answer.

http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6259903

http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6152446

But they take A LOT of skill to play. You have to be patient.

P.S Try to not listen to the whiners like the guy above me, listen to yourself and just keep being a better player while you’re at it.

You keep listing those videos, but how are people supposed to try them without the traits/runes/sigils? I’m pretty sure I can tell just from the gameplay but to someone not into theorycrafting it helps to have a reference.

im not 100% sure of the sigils, but i think its something close to this for the Doom Hammer 2nd link (http://www.twitch.tv/blacktruth009/c/6152446)

From what I’ve seen, it looks like he runs maybe 0/4/6/0/4, and doesn’t take cleansing ire. Takes Balanced Stance + Defy Pain in Defense.

edit: Actually I see might on weapon swap. 6 in discipline, no idea what the other 2 points go to. Strength seems like the only option, but with a build like this for all we know he’s taking immob on cripple. Might make up for his zero mobility, I guess.

They definitely are in strength – for dodge roll ownage and extra hp.
I can’t watch the videos on my phone, but I think that if he’s using the greatsword variant he goes 4/0/6/0/4 instead. So 2/0/6/0/6 for mace/shield axe/mace, and 4/0/6/0/4 for greatsword axe/shield(/mace).

I can post the full build with sigils etc. later if you’re keen.

He is running axe/mace + hammer. I watched the video a few times to make sure i was accurate for at min 2 pts in str and at min 2 pts in tactics. He does a dodge roll into another warrior and the other war takes damage. If you look BBC at his health, hes only at 19k, so he is not using the greater fortitude trait. He tends to stay in axe/mace mord often so not utilizing the axe trait in 4 str pts is silly, and there are no other traits in adept that fit axe/mace, ither than the 5% dmg increase while dual wielding. immobo on cripple can be seen when he uses hammer 3 on a warrior that is running from him towards quarry who gets immobilized after being hit with hammer 3. That is an immediate 2 pts into tactics, no doubt about it.

So even when u was theorycrafting his build, the point spread seemed odd. But i tested it in spvp and it works. I am not comfortable using the build because it lacks stability, but it is effective when you combo cc correctly.

That e only way we will know for sure what his build is, is if he posts it for us, other than that its mostly speculation.

Also he does not have sig of rage, however he is alone at a cap pt vs 1 warrior, and he obtains swift fury and might, this is the effect of pack runes.

In the video it also appears that he is moving at a faster rate than regular run speed. So i assume he must be 2 pts into disp for warriors sprint

Oh – I always associate Schwahrheit with the manmode 6 stance build =D I was just assuming it was that. My bad! Will have a look when I’m at home.

I run GS/ sword/shield on a soldier build. Works well, though I was originally kinda trolling as I basically made my warrior to troll.

Ive been using a Sw/Sw Hammer build in the past week since i got a little bored with Hambow. I dont actually miss the LB and ive won my fair share of 1v1 fights in sPvP. Sure if some is running away from me i have to make sure i have Savage Leap and Impale available to close the gap but otherwise i like the added condi/melee pressure of Sw/Sw.