Guild Wars 2

Is it true that now after using bulls charge, its impossible to hit all of HB while using frenzy before they get up?

How deeply did this cut our dps?

P.S. I don’t give a kitten about snarky “adapt” comments. I’m strictly wondering about this combo.

A bit late on this train. Frenzy was toned down from 100% faster actions to 50%. So yeah, it’s a littler harder to land all HB hits.

I stopped using Bull’s Charge and Frenzy.

I now use Bolas and Signet of Might. Its waaay better

Aye it’s no longer a usable strategy. People couldn’t understand how to dodge the most predictable move we had or how to equip any stun breakers, so the only real way we could beat our enemy into the ground before they could retaliate was taken away, now look where we are….

^I don’t think 100b wasn’t a major contributing factor when they decided to nerf quickness, but yeah, it took an unnecessary hit as a result. It take 2 1/3sec + skill delay from you last attack to hit with everything using quickness now.

Technically you can land the whole thing if you BC→Full flurry→ Swap into 100B

Dolan.3071:

Aye it’s no longer a usable strategy. People couldn’t understand how to dodge the most predictable move we had or how to equip any stun breakers, so the only real way we could beat our enemy into the ground before they could retaliate was taken away, now look where we are….

They didn’t nerf quickness from 100b. Was mostly for hammer warriors destroying people who don’t slot a stun breaker/stability or because of other classes using quickness to bursts more effectively like thieves.

TheGuy.3568:

Technically you can land the whole thing if you BC->Full flurry-> Swap into 100B

I think its not fast enough. I see people still moving away from that.

no, you can’t really land the full channel usually… but you can still WW and eviscerate to spike someone down easily…

Am I the only one who likes the new frenzy? It’s no longer a suicide button in team fights, and the longer duration gives you more time if that perfect opportunity becomes less perfect.

nope is still use bulls + frenzy and 100b…
Frenzy is still nice (and somehow better because of less damage to yourself)
but you have to finish with WW.. and if that issnt enough switch to axe/shield stun them and do the allmighty sweet eviscerate! still love this combination/set.. and its still viable

XII.9401:

Dolan.3071:

Aye it’s no longer a usable strategy. People couldn’t understand how to dodge the most predictable move we had or how to equip any stun breakers, so the only real way we could beat our enemy into the ground before they could retaliate was taken away, now look where we are….

They didn’t nerf quickness from 100b. Was mostly for hammer warriors destroying people who don’t slot a stun breaker/stability or because of other classes using quickness to bursts more effectively like thieves.

Mostly for hammer warriors destroying people
Hammer warriors destroying
Hammer destroying
Hammer>GS!

That’s like apples>oranges…

Jonwar.9205:

That’s like apples>oranges…

More like sledgehammer>steak knife.

I fail to see the difference… do you cut your food with a sledgehammer? They are different weapons with different purposes.

Jonwar.9205:

I fail to see the difference… do you cut your food with a sledgehammer? They are different weapons with different purposes.

well sledgehammer is more destructive to limbs with the same force if you used a knife. Just ask the people who go fetal position after I hit them with an Earth shaker.

You can combo out of mace stun into full HB as well, although I think you need the sigil of paralyzation to do it properly.

well sledgehammer is more destructive to limbs with the same force if you used a knife. Just ask the people who go fetal position after I hit them with an Earth shaker.

Actually, you could kill someone by striking a limb with a steak knife. You might also be able to do it with a sledgehammer, but far less likely really.

I’ve run both hammer and GS builds, in PvP hammer doesn’t have near the burst it does in WvW. In WvW I can run 80% crit damage and 2.7k armor and hit with 5k backbreakers while still being relatively tanky. Also, people in PvP have actually learned to use their dodge key more often than not, which is rather detrimental to hammer burst.