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Posted by: karakurt.8690

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Hello everyone,
Here my survival condition warrior build you can be sure that you will not go down in any moment so easily:
First about slot skills that I prefer:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Defiant_Stance for zergs big fights but also still helps you to survive one on ones.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Endure_Pain beware not to useat first chance because we have another one in trait line this is for emergency
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/%22Fear_Me!%22 use it everywhere for fun,to run away,to interrupt,to save downed players before they finished… whatever this my favourite skill of warrior
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Signet_of_Stamina I sometimes also chance this with For Great Justice! or Prayer to Lyssa
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Signet_of_Rage

And about trait line:
Ten points goes to Strength and selected trait is
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Restorative_Strength
Thirty points goes to Arms and selected traits is
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Deep_Cuts
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Blademaster
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Last_Chance
Another thirty points goes to Defense and selected traits is
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Sure-Footed
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Last_Stand
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Defy_Pain_%28warrior_trait%29
And about armor and jewels I chosed Condition Damage>Power=Vitality ones same thing for weapons and used
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Superior_Rune_of_the_Undead for armor
On swords one
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Superior_Sigil_of_Purity and
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Superior_Sigil_of_Corruption on another one.
I choosed with longbow
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Superior_Sigil_of_Fire
You can see some stats on pictures.
Everyone let’s have fun!

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Posted by: KarlusDavius.1024

KarlusDavius.1024

Power and condition doesn’t work. Choose a power build or condition build. Not both. Defiant stance isn’t good if you want to be tanky, healing signet outshines it. PVT or VPT gear for power, Dire for condition.

Traits are too all over the place.

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karakurt.8690

Power and condition doesn’t work. Choose a power build or condition build. Not both. Defiant stance isn’t good if you want to be tanky, healing signet outshines it. PVT or VPT gear for power, Dire for condition.

Traits are too all over the place.

I believe warriors need power always I can not rely on condition damage to bring to his or her knees my opponents I need stable direct damage also.If anyone inpect closely there is a balance in this build.I can say I haven’t lost one on ones with this build yet…

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Posted by: KarlusDavius.1024

KarlusDavius.1024

That’s not how it works. To put out power damage you need power, critical chance and critical damage. That’s how a power build works. It’s meant to out an opponent from 100% to 0 as fast as possible.

Conditions need just condition damage to be effective, however condition builds is a game of attrition. To wear your opponent down slowly, which mean you need to be a tank. Dire gear makes you that tank. Trying for both actually hinders both sides of the coin.

I’d love to meet the people you are fighting

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Posted by: ProxyDamage.9826

ProxyDamage.9826

Power and condition doesn’t work. Choose a power build or condition build. Not both. Defiant stance isn’t good if you want to be tanky, healing signet outshines it. PVT or VPT gear for power, Dire for condition.

Traits are too all over the place.

This. One or the other. Trying to do both means you’ll just do both poorly.

You “will not go down in any moment so easily” my kitten .

  • No Healing Signet… Lolwut? Defiant Stance is only good on zergs, and even then…
  • No points in Discipline? Oh dear… That means no fast switch, no cooldown reduction on signets (on a build that uses SoR and SoS? double lolwut), no mobile strikes (on a build with basically no condi removal…) and no Burst mastery or burst cooldown reduction…
  • Not even 3k armor…
  • 30 points in arms? Why in the world… You’re seriously sacrificing the Discipline tree for Last kittening chance??? I… Why?
  • You’re seriously not going to take Cleansing Ire…? You are suicidal.

All over the place. Goodluck with it. I’m not touching it with a 10 ft pole.

Edit: LOL! You don’t even have stability outside of that kittenty 90 sec cooldown passive trait… GG.

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I thought this was a post about Karazhan for a moment. Wrong game! :P

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Posted by: Lurock Turoth.9085

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I think old ProxyDamage has a bit to much of a kitten for Discipline. But in any case don’t make hybrid builds, they just suck no matter what class.

This is my preferred SPvP condi build (which can be reworked for wvw) Guardian runes push it a bit more tanky while allowing it to maintain damage output even while playing defensively. The first two utility’s get swapped out depending on who I’m fighting.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQRAsc5ejkOxu1OCPMxBCkirUFjifI+zjkAFyD-TwAAzCpIwShlDLDWSssYNqYVxeh5CA

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Posted by: karakurt.8690

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I think you clearly doesn’t undertand this is not only condition warrior as title says survival condition warrior.
And

No Healing Signet… Lolwut? Defiant Stance is only good on zergs, and even then…
No points in Discipline? Oh dear… That means no fast switch, no cooldown reduction on signets (on a build that uses SoR and SoS? double lolwut), no mobile strikes (on a build with basically no condi removal…) and no Burst mastery or burst cooldown reduction…
Not even 3k armor…
30 points in arms? Why in the world… You’re seriously sacrificing the Discipline tree for Last kittening chance??? I… Why?
You’re seriously not going to take Cleansing Ire…? You are suicidal.

As I write for defiant stance “for zergs big fights but also still helps you to survive one on ones.” I’ve already made my warning here I think warriors can understand what I mean.

If you do this build you will see you won’t need mobility because you can stand against six opponent as a rock about thirty seconds isn’t it enough? Try this Strength-Discipline warrior.I know it everyone knows it that it is clearly the worst type of build of warrior “my kitten”-
In addition You can easily run away by using fear me,signet of stamina and signet of rage.

You are really underestimating Last Chance trait soo bad.It is pretty useful.

Cleansing Ire? Are you sure that you know what do these ones do ; Signet of Stamina and Superior Sigil of Purity.

This is not a hybrid build I believe this is one of balanced one.

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Posted by: Eiland.1405

Eiland.1405

I play hybrid warrior, it does work and it’s super fun.
I usually kitten other warrior with it too burst or cond. (welcome to PM for mist duel EU servers)
But your build.. that’s not hybrid, that just meh, sry. you can hybrid build much much better then this.

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Posted by: KarlusDavius.1024

KarlusDavius.1024

Doesn’t matter if it’s a survival warrior. It’s bad at all of it because it’s so badly traited and geared. Maximize one thing for maximum output. Full conditions use dire gear, meaning you have huge vitality and toughness along with insane condition damage. Power builds in WvW will go witn Pvt and a mix of trinkets giving the same outcome just with front loaded damage.

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Posted by: ProxyDamage.9826

ProxyDamage.9826

I think old ProxyDamage has a bit to much of a kitten for Discipline. But in any case don’t make hybrid builds, they just suck no matter what class.

Mostly that’s because Discipline is currently the second best warrior tree, and only behind Defense because Cleansing Ire is so bloody essential.

On a build that uses Signet of Rage (let alone anything else) Signet Mastery is practically essential. Fast Hands is practically mandatory. Mobile Strikes is another practically mandatory trait unless you’re running Dogged March + Lemongrass + Melandru runes. And, finally, Burst Mastery, while not absolutely mandatory, is just really, really, good. Not only given the power of most Warrior’s bursts, but because of its synergy with Cleansing Ire.

I think you clearly doesn’t undertand this is not only condition warrior as title says survival condition warrior.

…But your “survival” ranges somewhere between bad and bellow mediocre…

As I write for defiant stance “for zergs big fights but also still helps you to survive one on ones.” I’ve already made my warning here I think warriors can understand what I mean.

If you do this build you will see you won’t need mobility because you can stand against six opponent as a rock about thirty seconds isn’t it enough? Try this Strength-Discipline warrior.I know it everyone knows it that it is clearly the worst type of build of warrior “my kitten”-
In addition You can easily run away by using fear me,signet of stamina and signet of rage.

You are really underestimating Last Chance trait soo bad.It is pretty useful.

Cleansing Ire? Are you sure that you know what do these ones do ; Signet of Stamina and Superior Sigil of Purity.

This is not a hybrid build I believe this is one of balanced one.

See, this right here, it tells me you know bugger all about the game. You think Signet of Stamina (especially without Signet Mastery…lol) and sigil of purity in any way shape or form equate to Cleansing Ire? How high were you when you wrote this?

Passive and long cooldown traits are generally mediocre from the start as you can’t control their activation, but Last Chance specifically is mediocrity incarnate. You can’t say it’s straight out bad, as it has no particular downside and it does have an almost certain guarantee to trigger in a fight… But Quickness isn’t that important anymore. Especially not 4 seconds every 40… That’s a 10% uptime! Not since it was nerfed. I mean, it’s still nice, but it’s not really… All that… You’re wasting a grandmaster trait on a relatively minor, uncontrollable, and situational buff.

Defiant stance, one on one, is bad. Especially in comparison with Healing Signet. It’s only good against those clueless W+M1 gommers that simply run at you and hit you regardless of anything else… And do you really need an advantage against those?

Personally I think it’s adorable how you think Fear Me is a reliable escape method (and not easily nullified by any single stun breaker) and that you think Last Stand is enough stability for WvW.

But hey, goodluck!

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I think old ProxyDamage has a bit to much of a kitten for Discipline. But in any case don’t make hybrid builds, they just suck no matter what class.

Mostly that’s because Discipline is currently the second best warrior tree, and only behind Defense because Cleansing Ire is so bloody essential.

On a build that uses Signet of Rage (let alone anything else) Signet Mastery is practically essential. Fast Hands is practically mandatory. Mobile Strikes is another practically mandatory trait unless you’re running Dogged March + Lemongrass + Melandru runes. And, finally, Burst Mastery, while not absolutely mandatory, is just really, really, good. Not only given the power of most Warrior’s bursts, but because of its synergy with Cleansing Ire.

I think you clearly doesn’t undertand this is not only condition warrior as title says survival condition warrior.

…But your “survival” ranges somewhere between bad and bellow mediocre…

As I write for defiant stance “for zergs big fights but also still helps you to survive one on ones.” I’ve already made my warning here I think warriors can understand what I mean.

If you do this build you will see you won’t need mobility because you can stand against six opponent as a rock about thirty seconds isn’t it enough? Try this Strength-Discipline warrior.I know it everyone knows it that it is clearly the worst type of build of warrior “my kitten”-
In addition You can easily run away by using fear me,signet of stamina and signet of rage.

You are really underestimating Last Chance trait soo bad.It is pretty useful.

Cleansing Ire? Are you sure that you know what do these ones do ; Signet of Stamina and Superior Sigil of Purity.

This is not a hybrid build I believe this is one of balanced one.

See, this right here, it tells me you know bugger all about the game. You think Signet of Stamina (especially without Signet Mastery…lol) and sigil of purity in any way shape or form equate to Cleansing Ire? How high were you when you wrote this?

Passive and long cooldown traits are generally mediocre from the start as you can’t control their activation, but Last Chance specifically is mediocrity incarnate. You can’t say it’s straight out bad, as it has no particular downside and it does have an almost certain guarantee to trigger in a fight… But Quickness isn’t that important anymore. Especially not 4 seconds every 40… That’s a 10% uptime! Not since it was nerfed. I mean, it’s still nice, but it’s not really… All that… You’re wasting a grandmaster trait on a relatively minor, uncontrollable, and situational buff.

Defiant stance, one on one, is bad. Especially in comparison with Healing Signet. It’s only good against those clueless W+M1 gommers that simply run at you and hit you regardless of anything else… And do you really need an advantage against those?

Personally I think it’s adorable how you think Fear Me is a reliable escape method (and not easily nullified by any single stun breaker) and that you think Last Stand is enough stability for WvW.

But hey, goodluck!

I see that you always want stability,signet of rage effect and remove any condition on yourself,you can’t stand to have them 5 sec,10sec.. or more.
Everyone is waiting my Fear Me! to use their stun breaker
Use your Cleansing Ire I do not force anyone to chose my build understood? I have that ways to remove conditions and I do not prefer Signet of Stamina so much as I said.Conditions on me less important thing while I fight: See? This is warrior spirit :P
You talk like warriors have no choice to use certain traits have no other choice than this and that… what you said.
Sorry but from start of this game to this time I played warrior I can say I know every bugger about warrior.Anyone disagree?
Again about Last Chance when you see that you are on fire with it elementalist can’t run vaporize mist form while you are finishing them off you can not predict when it will happen adds game so much fun
Let’s have fuun

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Posted by: KarlusDavius.1024

KarlusDavius.1024

Last stand does not stop damage from conditions. I’ll happily duel you with my condition spec and swap to my power spec vs your hybrid but I already know the outcome.

Feel free to send me a PM in game. It seems words won’t convince you, maybe actions will?

All in all, to people reading this, don’t use this build. It will very much kitten you in every aspect of gameplay.

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Posted by: karakurt.8690

karakurt.8690

Last stand does not stop damage from conditions. I’ll happily duel you with my condition spec and swap to my power spec vs your hybrid but I already know the outcome.

Feel free to send me a PM in game. It seems words won’t convince you, maybe actions will?

All in all, to people reading this, don’t use this build. It will very much kitten you in every aspect of gameplay.

It shoud be Defy Pain I think what you mentioned and it clarifys in the link in my first post that "You are still susceptible to conditions and crowd control effects. "
I am glad to see anyone who says don’t use this build this is kitten instead of why you chose that or how high are you while you choose this.
10 sec immortality with endure pains after that all attack healing 3 sec if you use Defiant Stance make that 13 sec if you can’t run away or do something with this period I don’t know what to say.
I did not say this build beats every build did I?
I certainly will not one on one with you who tries to convince someone with actions how fascist but when your server against Aurora Glade my blades will shine upon you whether you run away or kill me

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Posted by: KarlusDavius.1024

KarlusDavius.1024

I’ll add you in game and we can dance.

Your build won’t beat much, so i don’t know what or who your fighting, but it isn’t good.

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Posted by: Galsia.4102

Galsia.4102

I did not say this build beats every build did I?

I’m just curious, what build do you think yours counters?

Naked AFK upscale staff Elementalists?

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karakurt.8690

I did not say this build beats every build did I?

I’m just curious, what build do you think yours counters?

Naked AFK upscale staff Elementalists?

You gota be kiddin me…

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Posted by: ProxyDamage.9826

ProxyDamage.9826

You gota be kiddin me…

Then what is it? What do you honestly think this beats?

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Posted by: Galsia.4102

Galsia.4102

I did not say this build beats every build did I?

I’m just curious, what build do you think yours counters?

Naked AFK upscale staff Elementalists?

You gota be kiddin me…

How about just giving me an example instead of linking Chinese cartoons.

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Galsia | Jäshin | Çyndelle
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